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There is no such thing as the "Palestinian people" - Tool of Arab Propaganda

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2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That must explain why it is called "British Columbia".     The Palestinians and Israelis got to choose their own name.

No, when America had ambitions on the place they called it Columbia, to get under England's skin - but when England's ambitions won out they added the qualifier British to rub Uncle Sam's nose in it.

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3 hours ago, jbg said:

Explain the do-over. Do you mean a do-over from the Nazi Holocaust?

The do-over, which I have explained, is modern Israel. Jews lost Israel back some thousand years (might is right and Jews complain). Palestinians lost their land (might is right, but Jews complain that it's not enough) and will continue to lose land to the expanding Israeli state.

3 hours ago, jbg said:

You can buy land and if you bring enough people to work the land and/or form an economy, sure.

Chinese are buying up land in Canada. If they declare New China in Canada..  how would you feel about that?

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On 5/9/2018 at 6:03 PM, GostHacked said:

 

Chinese are buying up land in Canada. If they declare New China in Canada..  how would you feel about that?

The other solution would be for Chinese to become Canadians and stop the multicultural male bovine excrement.

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2 hours ago, jbg said:

The other solution would be for Chinese to become Canadians and stop the multicultural male bovine excrement.

But they bought the deed......

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18 hours ago, jbg said:

The other solution would be for Chinese to become Canadians and stop the multicultural male bovine excrement.

What if the "fake Palestinians" become Israelis? Oh wait. They won't be able to, because Israel will not allow the "fake Palestinians" to go back to their homes they were kicked out of and there is the law that only gives citizenship to those who consider themselves Jewish.

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On 5/9/2018 at 3:03 PM, GostHacked said:

Chinese are buying up land in Canada. If they declare New China in Canada..  how would you feel about that?

More power to them. I'd be annoyed at the Canadian government for letting it happen, though. 

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It seems to me that all people who want to be considered as civilised must have some informed opinion on the Middle-East situation, especially about the Israel/Palestine-issue.

My somewhat uncivilised opinion has been all along is to ask what has that got to do with us (Finland). Nothing whatsoever. However, even though Finland counts for nothing and we could count ourselves lucky not to be involved in that hassle some civilised people in our country would very much like us to take sides in that conflict which has nothing to do with us.

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On 5/8/2018 at 5:28 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Really ?   Why is the very same scenario celebrated in the U.S. and Canada  (i.e. First Nations) ?

Why is there a different standard for Israel ?

What are you talking about?

We don't pretend that the First Nations did not live here or don't exist.

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11 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said:

What are you talking about?

We don't pretend that the First Nations did not live here or don't exist.

 

What are you talking about ?

Israel does not pretend that Palestinians don't exist.

Israel actually has a much better record than Canada's present and past history of FN land theft, resource domination, subjugation, incarceration, residential schools, murders, scoop babies, pollution, etc.

Several of Canada's First Nations allied themselves with "oppressed" Palestinians decades ago....for obvious reasons.

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5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

What are you talking about ?

Israel does not pretend that Palestinians don't exist.

Israel actually has a much better record than Canada's present and past history of FN land theft, resource domination, subjugation, incarceration, residential schools, murders, scoop babies, pollution, etc.

Several of Canada's First Nations allied themselves with "oppressed" Palestinians decades ago....for obvious reasons.

Canada has a terrible record and history when it comes to their treatment of the First Nations. 

That's in the past. Canada is trying to make amends and even though it's moving slowly, it is moving towards the right direction.

The simple problem with your argument is that the treatment of Palestinians today, by Israel, would never be accepted by Canadians if it were done to the First Nations. 

Unless you have something new to add to your ridiculous argument, this case is closed. 

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10 minutes ago, Hudson Jones said:

Canada has a terrible record and history when it comes to their treatment of the First Nations. 

That's in the past. Canada is trying to make amends and even though it's moving slowly, it is moving towards the right direction.

 

It most certainly is not in the past....hundreds of land claims remain unsettled...unceded land remains occupied...water remains polluted...FN prisoners remain in prisons...babies are still taken from FN mothers.  

First Nations have no sovereign land rights in Canada....not even close to Palestine.

 

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The simple problem with your argument is that the treatment of Palestinians today, by Israel, would never be accepted by Canadians if it were done to the First Nations. 

Unless you have something new to add to your ridiculous argument, this case is closed. 

 

Case is not closed...many "cases" still fester in Canada's government / judicial cesspools to nowhere.   Just this week a federal judge approved the laughable settlement for FN's taken from their families over decades.   In contrast, Ottawa gave a convicted war criminal $10.5 million for violating his rights.

Look...I get it...you want me to shut up about past and PRESENT parallels between Canada's treatment of FN's (and other "visible minorities") and Israel's treatment of Palestinians / occupied territories.  

Israel will return all occupied territories and leave settlements just as soon as Canada's feds and provinces do for all FN's land and resources, pay for all the "genocide", recognize  FN's as fully sovereign states.    Good luck with that....

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On 5/15/2018 at 1:40 PM, Hudson Jones said:

The simple problem with your argument is that the treatment of Palestinians today, by Israel, would never be accepted by Canadians if it were done to the First Nations. 

Unless you have something new to add to your ridiculous argument, this case is closed. 

Pushing the narrative that Canada is treating the first nations the same as Israel's treatment of Palestinians is his schtick. Kind of like DogOnPorch's claim that Palestinians are Nazis. 

No amount of explanation and facts will deter these two from their routine.

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Rather than get ourselves trapped in ‘we good, you bad’ arguments, let’s make a few predictions. I predict a 1.1 state solution whereby Israel will gradually increase its control of the West Bank, isolating Arab enclaves and creating ever more facts on the ground around them without increasing the number of Arab voters in the Israeli state. There will be no Palestinian state. That’s what I see for 2028. 

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