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On ‎7‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 4:31 PM, betsy said:

Oh yeah, you got that right!  Indeed, so apparent.       Here's another hypocrisy:

 

These same people so-called progressives/leftist are so anal about inclusivity.........and yet they fight tooth and nail, to exclude - and murder - their own flesh and blood!  

Good of you to ignore Christian hypocrisy and not be able to justify it so just end in attacking another group.

Pathetic.

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DL

 

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Not that abortion is my issue, but contrary to popular leftist myth, there is no right to an abortion in Canada.  There's no law either way.

I do however sympathize with that, as a limited government conservative, libertarian sympathizer.

So while I will support the socialist right in terms of free speech and parental autonomy from the state, I won't support putting one more proscribing law on the books, until at least several thousand are taken off.

Way, way too many laws in Canada.  Just piling them on one after the next into a militarized Nanny Police State, which is mostly against the right, so anyone on the right calling for more laws, is shooting themselves in the foot.

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You are right in that we have no abortion law therefore, anything goes doesn't it but it's also my understanding that doctors here will not perform late term anyway.

  I'm pro choice but the more I read and see, the more I believe there should be term limits, but there are some exceptions.    Read this to get a different aspect.

Outlawing Late Abortion Seemed Like Such a Reasonable Idea Until I Needed One Myself

https://www.elle.com/culture/a15911671/late-abortion-senate-vote-2018/?fbclid=IwAR1KuFv8nEMIaScPdKnClXI_OMh5ShYMkRkt_ODco1H7iEBgSFzJqDVwanI

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Her Majesty defends the right to oppose abortion of any type for whatever reason.  I defend Her Majesty unto death as necessary.  Other than that, it's not my issue.

 

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11 hours ago, scribblet said:

A good friend of mine had a pretty similar thing happen to his daughter in-law. Terrible tragedy.

I wonder how people rolled their eyes and dismissed this as fake news? Just as many probably would said too bad so sad....for much the same reason.

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On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 4:17 PM, Zeitgeist said:

I’m grateful that Trump took a clear public stance against late term and partial birth abortions, which are infanticide pure and simple.  

I am surprised he did not exempt Blacks and Mexicans from his statement.

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DL

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Strange that in the abortion issue, no one speaks of the right of the child to have a loving parent and not one that was forced to have an unwanted child. That and the costs to a decent life for the child that the taxpayer does not want to help contribute to.

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DL

 

 

 

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I didn't read all the responses, abortion is an emotional subject for me personally. I am Catholic but  believe we have been given free choice and it extends to this . We are not the judge and jury

.It ocurrs to me  that this choice is the women's alone. Mother Teresa  once said something like  " I will choose to   be for something and not against  something" Not verbatim  but close.

 Anyway my 2 cents God Bless

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12 minutes ago, Slightright said:

I didn't read all the responses, abortion is an emotional subject for me personally. I am Catholic but  believe we have been given free choice and it extends to this . We are not the judge and jury

.It ocurrs to me  that this choice is the women's alone. Mother Teresa  once said something like  " I will choose to   be for something and not against  something" Not verbatim  but close.

 

What does being Catholic have to do with your views?

Does a genocidal God set your morals, when Yahweh is shown to have satanic morals?

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DL

 

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Catholics are very anti abortion, and I am. We are told biblically not to judge others , perhaps our toughest test of our faith. ...it is a personal choice and one day it will be reviewed. 

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16 hours ago, Slightright said:

Catholics are very anti abortion, and I am. We are told biblically not to judge others , perhaps our toughest test of our faith. ...it is a personal choice and one day it will be reviewed. 

Not judge!

Seriously, when your bible tells you the wisdom of judging all things?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

You are told to use the same standard of judgement that you would apply to yourself. Not to not judge. That would be really stupid.

How would you know that God was good if you did not judge him?

You have judged the genocidal son murderer as good. Right?

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DL

 

 

 

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On 2/14/2019 at 7:40 PM, Slightright said:

Catholics are very anti abortion, and I am. We are told biblically not to judge others , perhaps our toughest test of our faith. ...it is a personal choice and one day it will be reviewed. 

I can see why Catholics are anti abortion....they need the steady flow of young children to sexually abuse.

They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked

Religion in America is dying. It’s about time. After being wielded as a weapon to enslave Africans, displace Native Americans, subjugate women, suppress LGBTQ communities and shelter abusers of women and children, we should welcome its decline with celebratory acclaim. The truth is that religion has been holding us back from experiencing a second Enlightenment as society. 
 

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Kerfuffle

U C 20/20.

I think it a duty for moral people like you and I to try to make the death of Christianity move along as quickly as we can so as to end their ongoing damage to society.

I hope you can agree with that, and if an atheist, I hope you support the new atheist churches popping up.

Regards

DL

 

 

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16 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

 

16 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

Kerfuffle

U C 20/20.

I think it a duty for moral people like you and I to try to make the death of Christianity move along as quickly as we can so as to end their ongoing damage to society.

I hope you can agree with that, and if an atheist, I hope you support the new atheist churches popping up.

Regards

DL

 

 

I agree with you . The historical battles between religious institutions and science, such as those in physics, astronomy and biology, indicate there is something wrong with the religious approach to the study of reality.There are countless tragedies in history where scientific discoveries have been suppressed, lost, destroyed, burnt and hidden, with scientists murdered, ousted, silenced and tortured.I could go on and on and on about religion...it is divisive and is a threat to progression of man.

Have you seen the series.... Your inner fish. It shows records of our evolution in our DNA....such as the Human fetus having remnants of gills...a tail...a yoke sack....The genetic 'switch' that makes many animals look alike as embryos”. ... Mice, fish, frogs and even humans look remarkably similar at early embryonic stages, and appear to share the same molecular instructions that are crucial to normal embryo development.The evidence is overwhelming  that every thing  evolved from a single-celled organism that lived roughly 3.5 billion years ago.

https://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/your-inner-fish-series

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Kerfuffle

No argument on what you put.

I agree that religions have slowed man's moral progress. I have been trying to help kill Christianity and Islam for a decade now.

They are shrinking and no longer have decent apologists .

The final nail in their foul coffin will have to come from atheists and their atheist churches or from those who come out as more like Gnostic Christians.

Christianity used their inquisitions on us out of fear of what we could teach. We shed light on their foul God and so had to die.

Christian can no longer just murder the way they used to enjoy.

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DL

 

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25 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said:

The old saying "God exists in the gaps (of knowledge)" is 100% true. As we shrink these gaps, the "room" for god shrinks as well.

I think the intelligentsia have destroyed the imaginary supernatural God belief decades, if not centuries agao, yet religions are still harming us due to the lack of non-believers not recognizing that religions are created to fill our tribal/fellowship needs.

Some non-believers and atheists are finally recognizing that they have to create mystery schools or lose their children to the more predatory money hungry religious fraudsters.

We will always have God and churches. It is to the non-believers to decide if they want to save their children or lose them to fraudsters.

We are tribal by nature and our natures must be appeased.

It has begun.

Regards

DL

 

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3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Anything we say about God is false, including this statement.

Tell that logical position and truth to the ones who believe their lying clergy.

Believers should return with a thank you for that truth, --- but of course they wont.

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DL

 

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Just think about poverty and crime in the USA. Now think again if abortion was banned in all of the USA what do you think would poverty and crime be so bad that today's real situation would even be ideal?

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On 4/22/2018 at 3:05 AM, betsy said:

Abortion is here to stay.  No one will really try to bring this up.....so why make an issue of it?  

 

We have to.  It may be legal now to slaughter our unborn even for no reason than just to say because I want to....... but that shouldn't mean we have to tolerate it without voicing out our disapproval,  that we are strongly opposed to it, in fact.

 

Atheist/secular anti-abortionists, see it as a human right violation  - and they fight it on that ground. 

We Christians, fight it on the ground that it goes against Biblical teachings. We share a common goal.  To be the voice for the defenseless unborn. 

 

Even if it's now legal to murder a child, keeping the issue alive may help a woman struggling with her decision,  to do what is only righteous. 

Talking about it, still, saves lives.

You don't know your bible, as is the case with the majority of xians. The bible is very much in favour of killing children;  • "A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25)." Read even more biblical passages encouraging the murder of babies  and children...among others:  https://ffrf.org/component/k2/item/25602-abortion-rights

So get off your high horse. It is nobody's business what a woman does with her body. It is her business, Not yours. Not governments and certainly not the business of some organization promoting primitive superstitions. 

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2 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

You don't know your bible, as is the case with the majority of xians. The bible is very much in favour of killing children;  • "A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25)." Read even more biblical passages encouraging the murder of babies  and children...among others:  https://ffrf.org/component/k2/item/25602-abortion-rights

So get off your high horse. It is nobody's business what a woman does with her body. It is her business, Not yours. Not governments and certainly not the business of some organization promoting primitive superstitions. 

What the bible thumpers up on their high horses fail to see, or choose to ignore more likely, is that when abortion was illegal, it didn't stop women from getting them. Just that now they can get them in a proper clinical setting with a real doctor, instead of up a back alley somewhere with a "knitting needle artist".

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