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4 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Sure, but there are thousands of links in hundreds of different web pages and print documents. I'm sure they removed that one when they were made aware of it. It's hardly evidence of a vast left-wing conspiracy to corrupt the children.

Come on get real. Teaching kids all about sex at 6 years old and the ways of enjoying fetish and kinky sex is something that those children need to learn and know about at their age? It is indeed all a left wing liberal conspiracy. Do you think that any conservative or conservative party would create and promote fetish sex in public schools like the lieberals like to do? Only lefty liberals are good and want to promote those things. Is sex the only thing that liberals have on their minds these days? The lefty liberals are always trying to drive the decent and moral people into a closet. 

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7 minutes ago, taxme said:

Teaching kids all about sex at 6 years old and the ways of enjoying fetish and kinky sex is something that those children need to learn and know about at their age?

When my daughter was around six, I taught her about sex.  I did this so she wouldn't be misinformed by kids older than her or taken advantage of either by older kids or adults.  Perhaps this was the result of a 13-year-old boy attempting to introduce me to sex when I was around 9.  His attempt to persuade me included the information that he, his father, and his brother all enjoyed his sister - but now she got her period, so pregnancy was a possibility.   At 9, I had no idea this was wrong - it seemed weird, but not 'wrong'.  This was a family who attended Church on weekends; my parents left us because they thought this family was 'safe'.  Around the same age a girl a couple of years older than me tried to seduce me - suggesting we pretend to be husband and wife in bed.  It wasn't unpleasant, but it was weird and I left.   I didn't know it at the time, but found out years later that she was being sexually abused by her stepfather.   There was a lot of other sexual play when I was between the age of 9 to 11, while we were living in a small, relatively religious rural community.   Lots of 'girl-on-girl' to practice for 'boy-on-girl' when they got older.   How many of these kids were learning this stuff from their parents - as did both the boy and the girl who tried to have sex with me - and spreading out to kids like me, who knew absolutely nothing about sex.

Early and *accurate* sexual information is important to safeguard kids, not to corrupt them.   Too many parents still think kids 'don't need to know' until they are 'older', apparently completely unaware of the real world and how early sex can become an issue in a kid's life.

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Yes, pedophiles have the most to lose when children are made aware of the dangers of exploitation at an early age.

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50 minutes ago, betsy said:

Wynne may be gone, but the problem isn't.   The socialists/coimmunist mentality also include the alt-left.  

One of the characteristics of an alt-left is being a rabid anti-religion. 

I am hoping that a real and true conservative politically incorrect revolution is on it's way and that all things liberal will be replaced and abolished. Canada has to get back to where it once was. Before papa Trudeau Canada worked well for all of Canada and Canadians. There was never any needed talk about sex, racism or immigration like we do have today because it was not needed to do so to help run a country. Today it works for lefty liberals and socialist communists and hopefully tomorrow those three destroyers of all things moral and decent and normal will be gone for good.  Keep praying Betsy for a real and true conservative revolution movement because God knows that we really need it to happen now. There is not much time left to try and save Canada from the ones who are trying to destroy Canada. It has to be now or never. Join the conservative revolution. :)

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15 minutes ago, dialamah said:

When my daughter was around six, I taught her about sex.  I did this so she wouldn't be misinformed by kids older than her or taken advantage of either by older kids or adults.  Perhaps this was the result of a 13-year-old boy attempting to introduce me to sex when I was around 9.  His attempt to persuade me included the information that he, his father, and his brother all enjoyed his sister - but now she got her period, so pregnancy was a possibility.   At 9, I had no idea this was wrong - it seemed weird, but not 'wrong'.  This was a family who attended Church on weekends; my parents left us because they thought this family was 'safe'.  Around the same age a girl a couple of years older than me tried to seduce me - suggesting we pretend to be husband and wife in bed.  It wasn't unpleasant, but it was weird and I left.   I didn't know it at the time, but found out years later that she was being sexually abused by her stepfather.   There was a lot of other sexual play when I was between the age of 9 to 11, while we were living in a small, relatively religious rural community.   Lots of 'girl-on-girl' to practice for 'boy-on-girl' when they got older.   How many of these kids were learning this stuff from their parents - as did both the boy and the girl who tried to have sex with me - and spreading out to kids like me, who knew absolutely nothing about sex.

Early and *accurate* sexual information is important to safeguard kids, not to corrupt them.   Too many parents still think kids 'don't need to know' until they are 'older', apparently completely unaware of the real world and how early sex can become an issue in a kid's life.

All that has and still is being taught to our children today about sex by the lefty liberal establishment has nothing to do with informing children on normal and safe sex education but more to do with promoting the gay/trans lifestyle and having kinky and fetish and same sex acts as all are suppose to be normal and fun. A young child can be taught by their parents about sex in a normal fashion but the present day lefty liberal education system wants to educate out children about what they do not need to know about just yet. They will learn all about that later on in life. When a kid is ready and wants to know all about sex then it is time for mom and dad to teach them all there is to know about sex. That is not a teachers job but yet they have been given that right to do so. Sex does not need to be taught in school by teachers who may have many different sexual beliefs of how things can be done with sex. Kids at that young age of six should only be taught how to read and write and learn arithmetic and have fun playing on school grounds and not how to have sex with a banana or donkey. Pathetic and deplorable. 

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11 hours ago, betsy said:

 

If you're a parent.....do you want to be informed, or not?

 

Informed or not there is nothing a parent can do about it. There are two group of children from sexual orientation point of view. A majority straight and a minority (nobody knows what percent) bisexual/homosexual. It is same as about half of born children are girls and the other half are boys, the latter have been accepted but not the former. This is the way they are born and nothing can change that. So being informed or not does not alter that except maybe creates lots of problems for both side if parents are not understanding enough to accept what the nature has created. The children will let their parent know of the time and date of their choosing depending on how openminded they (the children) assess their parents will be. The school has no business spying on children and informing parents of a NATURAL phenomena.

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1 hour ago, taxme said:

It would appear to me that it is time to abolish that liberal left wing Toronto education board and start from scratch. It has to be done now. Hopefully Doug Ford will take me up on my suggestion and do something about what the education system is doing to and teaching our children. This all just reminds me of communist indoctrination. 

 

 

It is indoctrination.   Cradle to grave.

And they want to get their hands on children as early as they can - why do you think they're so determined with universal daycare?

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17 minutes ago, taxme said:

Kids at that young age of six should only be taught how to read and write and learn arithmetic and have fun playing on school grounds and not how to have sex with a banana or donkey. Pathetic and deplorable. 

Do you have kids?

My kids both had sex questions when they were 6.  As a parent, you answer according to their level of understanding and build on that as they grow.

Sex Ed began to be taught in schools because a lot of parents were not educating their own children.  I think a lot more parents teach their children about sex than in the yeras when I was growing up.

Do you have a link to where 6 year olds are being taught in school to have sex with bananas and donkeys?  I'd really like to see that.

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17 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Informed or not there is nothing a parent can do about it. There are two group of children from sexual orientation point of view. A majority straight and a minority (nobody knows what percent) bisexual/homosexual. It is same as about half of born children are girls and the other half are boys, the latter have been accepted but not the former. This is the way they are born and nothing can change that. So being informed or not does not alter that except maybe creates lots of problems for both side if parents are not understanding enough to accept what the nature has created. The children will let their parent know of the time and date of their choosing depending on how openminded they (the children) assess their parents will be. The school has no business spying on children and informing parents of a NATURAL phenomena.

But you are assuming the kid is indeed sure about his sexuality.

At that age - kids are normally confused about their sexuality.  To add to that, they're still going through hormonal changes.

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5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Do you have kids?

My kids both had sex questions when they were 6.  As a parent, you answer according to their level of understanding and build on that as they grow.

Sex Ed began to be taught in schools because a lot of parents were not educating their own children.  I think a lot more parents teach their children about sex than in the yeras when I was growing up.

Do you have a link to where 6 year olds are being taught in school to have sex with bananas and donkeys?  I'd really like to see that.

I will look around and see if I can find something for you. One never knows though that it does not happen. :D

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

I will look around and see if I can find something for you. One never knows though that it does not happen. :D

Yes, another right-wing fact inventor who is the first to declare verifiable reports as fake news.

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I really do think it boils down to just an element of human biology. No real need to make a big deal of it anymore. It's all genetics - and it should be taught as such - in the proportion that it deserves. To the kids: "you've seen people with red hair.....these people comprise 2% of the population. People with blue eyes? 8% of the population. There are also Gay people who are - through their genetic make-up - attracted to their own sex.  Our best estimate is about 5% - or one out of 20. Whether it's red hair - or blue eyes - or being Gay - it's all part of how we are put together.

Keep it simple - kids will figure it out.

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It's also common sense that kids have enough sex awareness at a very young age to know what they should do if a predator tries to exploit them. I remember the days of the 1960s when kids didn't know enough about what was going on to report the creeps that abused them.

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30 minutes ago, betsy said:

But you are assuming the kid is indeed sure about his sexuality.

At that age - kids are normally confused about their sexuality.  To add to that, they're still going through hormonal changes.

This is true but if one is oriented either gay or straight one isn't going to be swayed to the other side, even if they try it out.   Otherwise, virtually every gay person in the world would be straight because virtually all of them try to be straight first because that is what their parents, peers and society generally expect of them.  

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55 minutes ago, betsy said:

But you are assuming the kid is indeed sure about his sexuality.

At that age - kids are normally confused about their sexuality.  To add to that, they're still going through hormonal changes.

Sorry but your comment should be "her or his" sexuality. A kid is not born male only or straight only.

Well if true then give them time to find out but it is none of the business of their parents to decide what their orientation should be.

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1 hour ago, taxme said:

I am hoping that a real and true conservative politically incorrect revolution is on it's way ............... There was never any needed talk about sex, racism or immigration like we do have today because it was not needed to do so to help run a country. Today it works for lefty liberals and socialist communists and hopefully tomorrow those three destroyers of all things moral and decent and normal will be gone for good.  Keep praying Betsy for a real and true conservative revolution movement because God knows that we really need it to happen now. There is not much time left to try and save Canada from the ones who are trying to destroy Canada. It has to be now or never. Join the conservative revolution. :)

Government out of the bedroom of the nation. If conservatives get their way then we would have a state similar to some islamic republic somewhere where the government dictates how individuals should live their lives. BEWARE of that. Keep Canada clean and liberal where people can determine their destiny and life.  Down with those (like Harper and his injustice minister) who wish to impose their moral standards on others. They are the most immoral people since they have no respect for choice and democracy in the name of morality and decency.

It is also debatable who wants to destroy Canada. The ones who advocate intolerance and hate in a land famous for its tolerance and love or those who wish to keep Canada the land of tolerance and equality.

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58 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Government out of the bedroom of the nation. If conservatives get their way then we would have a state similar to some islamic republic somewhere where the government dictates how individuals should live their lives. BEWARE of that. Keep Canada clean and liberal where people can determine their destiny and life.  Down with those (like Harper and his injustice minister) who wish to impose their moral standards on others. They are the most immoral people since they have no respect for choice and democracy in the name of morality and decency.

It is also debatable who wants to destroy Canada. The ones who advocate intolerance and hate in a land famous for its tolerance and love or those who wish to keep Canada the land of tolerance and equality.

You are one scary poster.........:wacko:

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2 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

Yes, another right-wing fact inventor who is the first to declare verifiable reports as fake news.

When it comes to fake news, it seems he who smelt it dealt it.

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47 minutes ago, Centerpiece said:

You are one scary poster.........:wacko:

Yes the thought of a religious government (or conservative religious right) is very scary but could happen and I have to warn people about that prospect as remote as it may seem. It has happen before somewhere else and we have to be on guards so that it doesn't happen here.

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3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Yes the thought of a religious government (or conservative religious right) is very scary but could happen. Nobody could even remotely think it would happen either in 1978!!!!!!!

Until the Canadian Muslim population reaches 10 million, I don't think you'll have to worry about that. ^_^

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23 minutes ago, Centerpiece said:

Until the Canadian Muslim population reaches 10 million, I don't think you'll have to worry about that. ^_^

Well I never pointed my finger to muslims in Canada or any other religion in Canada (the islamic state overseas in my comment was just a recent example but I could have given many Christian state examples too) but to respond to your question I don't think that taxman who is posting about returning to moral things and decency and normal again in Canada is a muslim (neither was Harper which I pointed out in my post) in fact I am sure taxman is not muslim and my post was quoting him. Btw, I am sure the majority of muslim population in canada would also not wish a religious state. So lets not unnecessarily scare people of certain group or minority (who is scary here?). My issue is with religious right who wish to impose their moral values on others no matter what religion.

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2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Sorry but your comment should be "her or his" sexuality.

Sorry, but I think it's not for you to correct me about that.  There's nothing to correct, anyway.  I used "his," and that's how it'll be. 

Though some people are anal about it - I really don't care about political correctness.  

I think, my message - that kids are NATURALLY CONFUSED about their sexuality, what more when they're going through hormonal changes - ought to be what you should focus on, instead of some petty political correctness. 

 

Thinking of Trudeau -  correcting a woman with her usage of mankind.   He condescendingly corrected her by saying "it's PEOPLE-KIND."  Hahaha....when he got derided....he backtracked and referred to it as a "joke." 

 

Btw, as a last note - I think - it's time to wake up and  smell the coffee.  People are so tired of political correctness.

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24 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Well I never pointed my finger to muslims in Canada or any other religion in Canada but to respond to your question I don't think that taxman who is posting about returning to moral things and decency and normal again in Canada is a muslim (neither was Harper which I pointed out in my post) in fact I am sure taxman is not muslim and my post was quoting him. Btw, I am sure the majority of muslim population in canada would also not wish a religious state. So lets not unnecessarily scare people of certain group or minority (who is scary here?). My issue is with religious right who wish to impose their moral values on others no matter what religion.

I am curious, what example are you referencing of a "religious government (or conservative religious right)" in Canada or the US that has "imposed their moral values on others" through their system of governance Citizen_2015? Specifically one that has been seen as unacceptable by the majority of the country governed by this conservative/right religious government.

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3 hours ago, dialamah said:

This is true but if one is oriented either gay or straight one isn't going to be swayed to the other side, even if they try it out.

Well....so be it, then.  But that comes LATER!   When they're no longer confused!

 

But, kids are NATURALLY CONFUSED at that age!   And they're going through their hormonal changes!

Therefore, no one is sure yet whether they're gay or not!

 

What's so hard to understand??? My goodness.

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