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I don't live by Einstein's leave, but I do note that he wrote the letter to FDR which made the Manhattan Project, so didn't have the courage of his anti-Nationalist convictions apparently.

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Just now, Dougie93 said:

I don't live by Einstein's leave, but I do note that he wrote the letter to FDR which made the Manhattan Project, so didn't have the courage of his anti-Nationalist convictions apparently.

 

Goal!

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2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Goal!

Deflection wouldn’t  be considered a goal ,it woukd  be considered a defection,

but i did notice that since macron schooled trump he hasn’t  repeated his nationalism claim again,

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Also note, I am not a Jacksonian, I am a Jeffersonian.

Always about you .... most uninteresting thing you could say.

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Einstein was a genius, but he was highly specialized, brilliant when it came to gravity, but in terms of politics, he was all over the place, didn't really know what he was it seems.

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Einstein was a genius, but he was highly specialized, brilliant when it came to gravity, but in terms of politics, he was all over the place, didn't really know what he was it seems.

History proved him right. 

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Yes, Einstein was right, American nationalism was the best choice, so give them the bomb, then they will save Austria and the rest of Europe too.

"No force in history has done more to advance the human condition than American freedom" ~ Big Daddy Trump President of Canada.

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34 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Yes, Einstein was right, American nationalism was the best choice, so give them the bomb, then they will save Austria and the rest of Europe too.

"No force in history has done more to advance the human condition than American freedom" ~ Big Daddy Trump President of Canada.

Nothing to do with nationalism...

it was good American helped in ww2 ,but bone spurs and his crowd of cowards had nothing to do with it. We know what he is.

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 Jim you are quite correct. Ironically Einstein was neither a nationalist or any type of militarist. A lot of people to this day mistake  is role with the role of Robert  Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer of course after WW2 ended was Chair of the General Advisory Committee of the US Atomic Energy  and publically advocated strict control of  nuclear weapons and the US government because of revoked his security clearance. He was made a persona non grata.

Einstein's views as to pacifism were well known and well enunciated. For anyone to say he was not sure of himself or his political views is absolutely incorrect. He spent many papers, interviews and talks on the concept of God and world peace. He referred to God in an abstract way as the source of the energy very much like Spinoza. He was against the notion of people praying to a personal God out of fear and saw all life forms and energy interconnected and so ethics as being the conduct of humans to be determined by us as to how we wanted to help or harm the world in our individual or group decisions. He was a scientist not a politician and as such transcended rigid ideological arguments calling on black and white positions.

He believed in using logic and objective methodology to establish positions of understanding not emotions based on fear or pride.

He was against the use of any weapons and so was Oppenheimer for that matter. To suggest they were pro guns or pro weapons is  nonsense.

For that matter, Harry Truman who authorized the use of the two nuclear bombs was the same man who personally confronted Curtis E. Lemay of the US Air Force and General McCarthur in Korea who both demanded he use the nuclear bomb against China. Curtis E. Lemay the head of the US Air Force and some say was the character Dr. Strangelove referred to in that movie, was actually put down by Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, and Kennedy when he would try argue the use of the nuclear bomb in Vietnam or  in a war against Russia. Eisenhower, then Kissinger in fact were the primary reasons Israel did not use nuclear weapons in a pre-emptive strike against Russia in the 50's, 60's and 70's. We've come far closer than people think to nuclear war and some of the people we think are war mongers were in fact the ones preventing these wars.

I find if you could take someone who advocates the use of a gun and make them clean up the brains of someone blown to bits-it changes their opinion a lot of times.

I would like to take everyone who advocates the use of weapons to clean up the bodies and put the parts in bags and label them.

People who advocate the use of guns are never soldiers or police or emergency personnel, physicians, its usually people who fear others and feel the gun gives them protection.

Its a fallacy of clean people. People with blood and body parts sprayed on them don't think that way.

I always argue only soldiers and police are trained and can properly understand just how last resort weapons are and how they are not some  panacea or Viagra for instant strength and power.

If someone really wants to defend themselves they need to learn martial arts-the first thing it will teach them is to walk away and only use as much force as is necessary to contain if that becomes necessary.

The primal need to have a gun is nothing more than a homo sapien demanding a club to bash someone in the head with. Its time we walk upright. This has nothing to do with leftist or rightist ideology and everything to do with discipline and learning to control primal instincts. Leftist and rightist ideologies have both embraced weapons and violence. People like Einstein and Oppenheimer were not either. They were scientists caught in a world where politicians wanted to use their knowledge for the wrong reasons requiring like Truman they make choices at certain times as to which use of the weapon would cause the least damage not the most damage.

Truman's horrid decisions were right. Far more innocent people would have died in a continuing war in Japan.

People also forget carpet bombings like in Dresden, Germany were psychologically as devastating as the nuclear bombs in Japan. Some people question if they were necessary,. Some argue it was the only way to get Germany to surrender.

Weapons come in many forms. Bibles for example.  The problem is guns have the most immediate effect. Words can be devastating but take longer to deliver and sink in.

Show me a person who wants a gun and I will show you someone with small genitals except Annie Oakley.

I learned how to use a gun. I think target practice or skeet shooting is a great hobby.  Genuine hunters I have no problem with having rifles. They are a necessity to eat and in the event an animal is rabid, etc. Go run around a city shooting at people you need the gun stuffed up butt and shot off.

Regards,

John Wayne

Annie Oakley

Chuck Heston

Jed Clampett

 

 

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The purpose of the Canadian restricted class firearm is obviously not hunting, the only animal a Colt Canada C8 is intended to hunt, is the Homo Sapiens Sapiens Apex Predator.

Sport shooting with a Colt Canada C8 is obviously for only one thing as well, to maintain your proficiency as a tactical shooter.

Thus, the Canadian restricted class license invokes an armed militia inherently. 

The only difference is that British militias are only in allowance of the law, whereas in America the right shall not be infringed.

Other than the five round magazine capacity limit, here is no practical difference between a restricted class Colt Canada C8 and an American made AR15. 

Same gun, one is just made in Kitchener Ontario.

Five round magazine capacity should not discourage you from being a tactical shooter, first thing you're going to have to master is changing mags on the fly anyways.

 

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15 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Unless America turns left...Not likely.  Or Canada could swing right...Not likely.  

The US HAS turned sharply to the left.  Billary and Obama were heading there, but Pelosi and Sanders represent the right-off-the-left-side brigade.

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The US has turned sharply to the right, with Gorsuch replacing Kennedy at the Supreme Court.

There is no path to legislation which is not going all the way up to the SCOTUS.

So thanks to Donald Trump, the right is large and in charge for at least a generation to come.

Nothing these Cultural Marxist Democrat Party Dingbats try to enact into law, is going to get past the conservative majority at the SCOTUS.

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On 6/23/2018 at 2:27 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Thoughts ?

Americans will not give up their constitutional right to own and bear arms (confirmed by the Supreme Court) because of the illegal and/or deranged actions by criminals and the mentally ill. 

Taking away guns a la Australia would cause wide scale civil unrest and violence....a "cure" far worse than the "disease".

U.S. gun homicides are at a 30 year low, despite far more guns being in circulation.

Untrue...gun homicides are up according to the cdc. 14,500 homicides by firearms

12,000 suicides

10,000 fatalities by accident

70,000 non fatal gun injuries  many causing permanent disability,

More people killed every 2 days in America than terrorists  kill in all of Europe in a year.

but um um um um..there”s a caravan coming 

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The first leftist sacred cow taken down by Gorsuch is universal healthcare, federal mandate to purchase; unconstitutional, buh-bye.

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2 hours ago, Rue said:

 If someone really wants to defend themselves they need to learn martial arts-the first thing it will teach them is to walk away and only use as much force as is necessary to contain if that becomes necessary.

I am military unarmed combat qualified, but quite sure when the M.O. of deranged spouse come to murder his ex wife and even his children presents, Bruce Lee will not be able to save them.

One of the most despicable aspects of Gun Grabbers, is how they insist on single women being left defenseless in the face of the Homo Sapiens Sapiens Apex Predator male.

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23 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Einstein was a genius, but he was highly specialized, brilliant when it came to gravity, but in terms of politics, he was all over the place, didn't really know what he was it seems.

Definitely agree with that one. Gandhi was the same.  Brilliant but all over the place.  

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2 minutes ago, Drew Bedson said:

Definitely agree with that one. Gandhi was the same.  Brilliant but allover the place.  

 As Einstein gave us the bomb, whatever his reasons were,  all is forgiven.

 

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10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I am military unarmed combat qualified, but quite sure when the M.O. of deranged spouse come to murder his ex wife and even his children presents, Bruce Lee will not be able to save them.

One of the most despicable aspects of Gun Grabbers, is how they insist on single women being left defenseless in the face of the Homo Sapiens Sapiens Apex Predator male.

 

2 minutes ago, Drew Bedson said:

True.   Saved so many lives we cannot begin to count.

Is that why you lead the world in killing your kids in schools?

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2 minutes ago, Drew Bedson said:

True.   Saved so many lives we cannot begin to count.

Including mine.  I was prepared to go to my death as necessary in defence of the Fulda Gap, but not eager. 

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5 minutes ago, Jimwd said:

 

Is that why you lead the world in killing your kids in schools?

Not me, Canadian.  Is jumping the gun and not knowing reality and whom is your enemy the reasons why you and your messed up theology leads the world in terrorist attacks?B)

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Including mine.  I was prepared to go to my death as necessary in defence of the Fulda Gap, but not eager. 

And mine as well.  20 years Airborne. Bless you brother.

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Just now, Drew Bedson said:

And mine as well.  20 years Airborne. Bless you brother.

Canadian Airborne Regiment or American XVII Corps?

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