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What does the term (word) 'fascism' actually refer to?

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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,

Are there any political institutions in existence that contain any of these characteristics?

There are certainly institutions in existence that contain these characteristics in a broad sense: organized (institutionalized) religion, including (but not limited to) Christianity and Islam.

When we observe the rise of fascism that led to the 'ultranationalist' stance that Adolf Hitler held: in particular his desire to eradicate all Jews from the face of the planet, we take note that within the last eight centuries, such a regime did rise in Germany.

Here we have the rise of fascism leading into genocide of ... who? Jews.

Are there any institutions (religious/political) that have a history of committing genocide on Jews?

The answer is yes: Muhammad's Islam of the 7th century. It is indeed the case that the prophet of Islam systematically beheaded Jews (Khaybar) in both ceremonial and efficient fashion: the Jew was forced to dig a hole for there severed head to be buried in.

We see the rise of fascism through-out the West closely related to Islam:
-Increasing antisemitism (hatred of Jews)
-Increasing pro-socialist propaganda that has penetrated global politics
-Divisive politics: labeling "ists" and "isms" whenever a dissenting view is expressed
-Motion M-103 now funding propaganda that targets "Islamophobes" here in Canada
-Open borders/immigration

These are all central components of the early stages of 'fascism'.

I therefor submit the following:

1. The entire 'Western' world is presently undergoing a 'grand' jihad perpetrated by Islam, and has been for 1400 years.
2. Corrupt politicians are being 'bought' to (knowingly or unknowingly) support the ultimate goal of Islam.
3. Stupid/depraved politicians (Trudeau/Clintons) use money to purchase fame/sexual services offered in the 'dark market' of Islam (sex slavery / human trafficking)
4. 'Digital jihadists' are paid to silence criticisms (often by fascist means as outlined above) - the most prominent form being the term 'Islamophobe'
5. Adolf Hitler was a 'puppet' acting in accordance with the ultimate goal of Islam which includes extermination of Jews

Understanding the connection of Islam to fascism; Hitler to Muhammad leads one to the obvious:

Islam is the root of fascism on this planet, and so long as Islam exists in its current form, the human civilization will suffer the recurrence of rising fascism that leads to genocide, because Islam is rising fascism that leads to genocide, correctly in accordance to the (real, historical) life of Muhammad, and not the psychological idol Muslims are sold and told
to 'imitate' for a living. Note that both Hitler and Muhammad blamed their personal downfalls on 'the Jews' because they are 'backstabbers'.

Muslims believe the Qur'an is the perfect/inimitable/unaltered/inerrant word of the creator of the universe.
This is a false statement but a 'truth' likely every single Muslim is willing to fight/die for.

This will result in the bloodshed of hundreds of millions unless 'something happens' and because I can not predict the future (only look in the past) I do not know how this will end, but in my opinion it most certainly involves more genocide and bloodshed.

Islam has successfully misdirected NA's general view of the most immediate threat: Russia and/or China. This is not true - Islam is the greatest threat to world peace.

I'm sorry to the people that 'take offense' to any of this - rest assured personal feelings are most certainly not worth more than the fact that, to date, 170 000 000 people are dead at the hands of Muslims (most of them are other Muslims) and, if things continue the way they are, hundreds of millions more are at risk of the same fate.

And all of this is based on a mistaken belief: that the Qur'an is the perfect word of the creator of the universe. This is what makes the Muhammadans (who imitate what Muhammad did 1400 years ago) very technically 'insane' as this one and sole belief leads them to desire to spill the blood of all beings not a Muslim - starting with Jews as conducted by both Muhammad and Hitler.

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No offence taken, just note that your attempt to conflate all flavours of Islam with terrorism and fundamentalism has been done before and it's generally done as a propaganda play not as a genuine personally held belief.  

Coming to the forum with Qu'ran quotes all loaded up and ready to go doesn't help - this appears to be an inauthentic opinion, IMO.

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15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

No offence taken, just note that your attempt to conflate all flavours of Islam with terrorism and fundamentalism has been done before and it's generally done as a propaganda play not as a genuine personally held belief.  

Coming to the forum with Qu'ran quotes all loaded up and ready to go doesn't help - this appears to be an inauthentic opinion, IMO.

 

Which version of Islam is the peaceful one?

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23 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Which version of Islam is the peaceful one?

Taj Hargey's?  I heard him on Hardtalk yesterday.  He made Stephen Sackur look like a Jihadist.

That's the first I've heard of him though.  I don't know all of his views.

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7 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Taj Hargey's?   

Irshad Manji seems pretty cool.  Of course, the people who say there are no moderate Muslims, Islam can't reform etc. etc. start short-circuiting when you bring her up because it destroys their xenophobic sphere of reality.  They are believers in the 'True Scotsman' concept. :D

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Just now, Michael Hardner said:

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Irshad Manji seems pretty cool.  Of course, the people who say there are no moderate Muslims, Islam can't reform etc. etc. start short-circuiting when you bring her up because it destroys their xenophobic sphere of reality.  They are believers in the 'True Scotsman' concept. :D

Maybe they are influenced by all the death threats.

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34 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

No offence taken, just note that your attempt to conflate all flavours of Islam with terrorism and fundamentalism has been done before and it's generally done as a propaganda play not as a genuine personally held belief.  

Coming to the forum with Qu'ran quotes all loaded up and ready to go doesn't help - this appears to be an inauthentic opinion, IMO.

Islam does not have "flavours" [sic] - there is only one Qur'an. You might be confusing "flavours" [sic] with degrees to which certain Muslims actually execute the pattern of conduct of Muhammad as they are instructed to by the Qur'an. The more one does this, the one more resembles Muhammad who, as we both know, committed genocide on Jews. This creates a spectrum - but the spectrum as a whole is one Islam - as it always has been owing to there being only one Qur'an and only one testimony in order to join Islam to become a 'Muslim': that there is no God or deity to worship, there is only Allah, and Muhammad is the final messenger of Allah.

What Qur'an quotes are you talking about? And what on earth is an "inauthentic" opinion? All opinions are authentic - even if untrue.

To all others: behold the substance of this users post:
1. Used a made-up expression "flavours of Islam" (similar to "Islamophobia") which is (are) essentially meaningless
2. Attempting to sever/conceal obvious relationship between Islam and terrorism by using meaningless terms such as "flavours of Islam"
3. Associating criticisms of Islam as "propaganda"
4. Attempts to undermine by using statements such  as "not as a genuine personally held belief" and "inauthentic opinion

What does this resemble?

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11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Or voices in their head?  Irrational fears are pretty tempting to indulge.

No death threats then?

You are the same as those you decry.  No sane middle ground where both barbarism and moderation are recognised.  It's either xenophobia or blinkers.

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6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

1. No death threats then?

2. You are the same as those you decry.  No sane middle ground where both barbarism and moderation are recognised.  It's either xenophobia or blinkers.

1. Constant death threats.  That means that they aren't something to make you live under the bed.

2. Moderation IS middle ground.

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1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Constant death threats.  That means that they aren't something to make you live under the bed.

2. Moderation IS middle ground.

I don't know where they live.  I don't know how seriously they take them.  I have never had a death treat.

I'm not talking about Islam, I'm talking about liberals.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

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Irshad Manji seems pretty cool.  Of course, the people who say there are no moderate Muslims, Islam can't reform etc. etc. start short-circuiting when you bring her up because it destroys their xenophobic sphere of reality.  They are believers in the 'True Scotsman' concept. :D

 

I didn't ask what Muslims you found cool.

I asked: Which version of Islam...a religion and political movement as opposed to a person...is the peaceful one?

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7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

They do get death threats via Twitter and such.

Sorry, that was in response to your moderation comment, not your death threat comment.  I'm sure death threats from any source are very unsettling.

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Manji follows a personal Islam that is very Western...

 

No such thing.

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3 hours ago, 9-18-1 said:

m sorry to the people that 'take offense' to any of this - rest assured personal feelings are most certainly not worth more than the fact that, to date, 170 000 000 people are dead at the hands of Muslims (most of them are other Muslims) and, if things continue the way they are, hundreds of millions more are at risk of the same fate.

And all of this is based on a mistaken belief: that the Qur'an is the perfect word of the creator of the universe. This is what makes the Muhammadans (who imitate what Muhammad did 1400 years ago) very technically 'insane' as this one and sole belief leads them to desire to spill the blood of all beings not a Muslim - starting with Jews as conducted by both Muhammad and Hitler.

If Muslims who believe X are being killed by Muslims who believe Y, how can all Muslims believe the same thing and be willing to fight/die for that, as you claim? 

Also, the Koran advises Muslims to obey the law of the land and to not engage in violence.  These are the commands most Muslims follow; those who claim Muslims are or will be become violent as a matter of faith are extremists who have an agenda.  The agenda is either to whip up anti-Western sentiment or to whip up anti-Muslim sentiment.  Either way, it is people like you and DoP and like ISIS who cause violence, not Muslims.

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1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Total conflict here. 

 

As mentioned a few times before...Xenophon had good reason to "fear" the Persians...but, you know...xenophobes are everywhere.

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3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

If Muslims who believe X are being killed by Muslims who believe Y, how can all Muslims believe the same thing and be willing to fight/die for that, as you claim? 

Also, the Koran advises Muslims to obey the law of the land and to not engage in violence.  These are the commands most Muslims follow; those who claim Muslims are or will be become violent as a matter of faith are extremists who have an agenda.  The agenda is either to whip up anti-Western sentiment or to whip up anti-Muslim sentiment.  Either way, it is people like you and like ISIS who cause violence, not Muslims.

 

Thus Donny Jr's comment on M&Ms and/or Skittles .

 

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1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

As mentioned a few times before...Xenophon had good reason to "fear" the Persians...but, you know...xenophobes are everywhere.

At the time of Xenophon of course Persians were not yet invaded by damn Arabs and subsequently as a result culturally and otherwise destroyed so his fear were for right reasons as Persians had a strong empire at the time and fought against Romans and in many occasions won (though defeated by Greeks once). They never became strong again after Arab invasion.  If what is left of Persians (Iran) ever want to be strong again they must go back to the rich Zoroastrian culture and religion which made them a strong empire for centuries and that is what is happening now. The end of miserable islamic republic is near and the glorious Persian Empire will be restored as what the nation is risking their lives every day to achieve.

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42 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

At the time of Xenophon of course Persians were not yet invaded by damn Arabs and subsequently as a result culturally and otherwise destroyed so his fear were for right reasons as Persians had a strong empire at the time and fought against Romans and in many occasions won (though defeated by Greeks once). They never became strong again after Arab invasion.  If what is left of Persians (Iran) ever want to be strong again they must go back to the rich Zoroastrian culture and religion which made them a strong empire for centuries and that is what is happening now. The end of miserable islamic republic is near and the glorious Persian Empire will be restored as what the nation is risking their lives every day to achieve.

 

Xenophon...the ultimate stranger in a strange land thanks to Cunaxa. He was pre-Alexander/Diadochi and very pre-Islam. 400BC-ish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cunaxa

Anabasis pretty much covers his trip home with his fellow mercenaries through enemy countryside. His methods are still taught at West Point if I recall correctly.

Anyways...he hated the Persians...as you might have guessed.  Modern usage of xenophobe doesn't quite reflect the situation, though. Xenophon was witness to the rebuilding of Greece after the Persian occupation of the generation previous. So plenty of war stories re: the Persians...etc.

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30 minutes ago, dialamah said:

If Muslims who believe X are being killed by Muslims who believe Y, how can all Muslims believe the same thing and be willing to fight/die for that, as you claim? 

Also, the Koran advises Muslims to obey the law of the land and to not engage in violence.  These are the commands most Muslims follow; those who claim Muslims are or will be become violent as a matter of faith are extremists who have an agenda.  The agenda is either to whip up anti-Western sentiment or to whip up anti-Muslim sentiment.  Either way, it is people like you and DoP and like ISIS who cause violence, not Muslims.

To your first point, take the Sunni/Shia conflict within Islam as an example of internal conflict. This is precisely what is owing to the fundamental problem of Islam as both a religion and/or political entity:

The belief that the Qur'an is the perfect, inimitable, unaltered, inerrant word of the creator of the universe is false.

This renders Muhammad as not a prophet, but rather precisely what his real sunnah depicts him as: a pillaging warlord that established human trafficking 'businesses' in order to fund his jihad/expansion. This is why Islam begins religiously, and ends politically, because it actually is a political system disguised as a religion. The Qur'an is essentially forged from Syriac texts and is an obvious heresy of Christianity as both Christianity and Islam are 'awaiting' the return of Jesus/Isa.

This unifies both Sunni/Shia as one: they are both in error for the same reason: the book they follow is a man-made book. In fact, this is what is causing the bloodshed in the first place - believf that the Qur'an is the perfect word of the creator of the universe is a major catalyst to supremacist attitudes (Believer/Unbeliever) that label people as lesser "infidel" which is precisely what Islam does. This is where fascism enters because its seed is 'literally' in Islam.

Now to your second point(s):

Yes the Muslims are ordered to obey the law of the land. There is a reason for this: when a Muslim actively in jihad emigrates (invades) a non-Muslim country, they are expected to blend in and obey the laws of that land so as to not garner any attention whatsoever from the host nation on both a small scale and large scale. This is precisely necessary to set the foundation of the larger invasion that comes later in the Qur'an. This is not a teaching of virtue, as you are framing it; it is a simple order to avoid every possible 'barrier' for eventual jihad. It is designed that way militarily.

Muslims that claim that 'extremists' do not represent Islam is a product of the programming/dogma that is instilled in the mind of a Muslim at a very young age - we must remember that all Muslim children typically read the Qur'an privately with an instructor(s) who teach them. The book itself is manufactured in order to condition the Muslim to immediately attach to Muhammad, who was purposefully constructed as an idol by being given traits such as: best pattern of conduct, best example, model man etc. The women are taught one view of Muhammad that appeals to the 'dream man' stereotype. The men are taught a different view that is accordance to jihad and expansion of the empire. This is Islam was constructed from day one and continues to operate: this is also the 'real' reason why Muslim men and women are divided in the mosque.

Now to the following:

"The agenda is either to whip up anti-Western sentiment or to whip up anti-Muslim sentiment."

The agenda is not to whip up anything but open dialogue - my wish is for both West/East and/or Christians/Jews/Muslims to stop killing one another and for there to be lasting peace on the planet - the only way towards that lasting peace is for both Christians and Muslims to understand that both of their empires are idolatrous empires based on forged books.

In the case of either, whichever side refuses to even address this issue will necessarily be the aggressor, and so far Islam continues to claim that the Qur'an is perfect, inimitable, unaltered, inerrant etc. when in fact it is not. Hundreds of millions of Muslims are programmed to 'defend' the integrity of the Qur'an and Muhammad with their very lives if necessary.

"Either way, it is people like you and DoP and like ISIS who cause violence, not Muslims."

I beg your pardon?

It's people like the Muslims that shot up Charlie Hebdo over protecting the 'honor' of their psychological idol Muhammad that actually spill blood. Meanwhile, I am here trying to point out via dialogue what is the source of suffering and death on this planet. I went so far as to spend several months learning biblical Hebrew to understand what Moses (who is the patriarch of each of Judaism/christianity/Islam) actually taught in his own language, and compared it to Jesus and Muhammad. Muhammad was very obviously illiterate but it is clear to me he was illiterate for a reason - so people can understand what an illiterate person thinking 'Allah' is talking to him on a private channel is capable of doing. And you wish to accuse me of being like them who spill blood? I am trying to put an end to the spilling of blood by pointing out that each empire is based on an idolatrous scheme to subjugate people into idol worship - Christianity and Islam being the prime two.

Islam as a seed will always generate the fruit of genocide (of Jews then non-Jews) - if not "hypocrite" Muslims being killed by "real" Muslims, then there are plenty of Jews yet to kill - followed by Christians who are presently experiencing (and have been) genocide at the hands of Muslims.

It is of no question that Islam is designed as a perpetually-operating 'system' that leads non-Muslim nations through socialism (taking over the media, which Islam currently controls here in North America) leading into nationalism combined with an atmosphere of divisive identity politics to create civil war. Imagine the entire planet experiencing multiple civil wars. How do allies help each other when that happens?

This is all by design - it is constructed in this way for a reason.

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Consider the general concept 'state censorship'.

In this 'state' the central power effectively controls what information is available to its own population. For example, China is considered a communist state as it does not have an open press, but rather all open-broadcast release of information must be state-sanctioned and approved.

This is an example of 'state censorship'.

Replace China with Islam. Islam, when Sharia is enforced, effectively is the ability to enforce "laws" that are in accordance with Islam.

The first of these is anti-blasphemy: controlling what one may and/or may not say. In Islam under a Sharia-enforced 'state', ANY criticism of the Qur'an, Muhammad and/or Islam is the death penalty. Islamic Sharia also enforces apostasy laws likewise calling for execution.

Look at Iran: you have BEAUTIFUL women dreaming of a day to actually BE a BEAUTIFUL woman without:
1. Getting raped by sick men
2. Getting covered up by equally sick men
3. Getting forced into arranged marriages - sometimes as young girls

Imagine being born as a beautiful woman in such an atmosphere as one controlled by Sharia: very unpleasant. Imagine being indoctrinated at a young age to practically IDOLIZE Muhammad (Muhammad is one of humanities most destructive "idols" which violates the Ten Commandments - Muhammad himself violated them profusely).

Also consider that every single Muslim on the planet must perform a ceremony "testimony" of faith. This is important because Moses (Moshe in Hebrew, Musa in Arabic - there was only one Hebrew Moshe) whom, even according to the Muslims from their mouths, was indeed a prophet. Therefor it must necessarily follow that the Ten Commandments (as delivered in their original Hebrew form) are solid in form and hold true the test of all time. That is the nature of truth: it is eternal and is always present/manifest - the "truth in plain sight".

So Islam has essentially hijacked a completely Hebrew (Jewish) tradition (Abram and Moses were Hebrews) and Arabicized (if I can coin the term) all of the prophets and added their own at the end. What is left - the Jews, are precisely the target of the Muslims - instigated by Muhammad, who led his entire empire/operation based on human trafficking, only to die and have his power pass through several slit throats and rival groups until we end up with Sunni/Shia which is a 1400 year conflict responsible for the death of 170 000 000+ and counting.

And all of this is based on a totalitarian "religion" which is actually a 'state' dressed in religious clothing, designed to systematically wage war on the unbelievers and exterminate the Jews until every last one of them is dead. This is precisely what they have been doing, and will continue to do so long as they believe that the final authority in matters concerning life/death is belief that the Qur'an is the perfect word of God and to give ones own life to the "cause of Allah".

Believing something that is not true to be absolutely 100% true is insanity - the transfer of this from Islam into the West is via the "Globalist" Socialist/Democratic parties, because Islam has prepared and wished to unleash another global bid for world dominance after its failed attempt in WW2. This is precisely why Sir Winston Churchill said the following:

“Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”

And in this Churchill is 100% correct - the goal of Islam is to retro-censor statements like this, but Churchill's knowledge of this cold reality is what advised his victory in WW2 - the refusal to adopt a totalitarian state such as Fascist Nazism.

Fascist Nazism itself is a product of Islam when traced back through the proxies - genocide of Jews/Disbelievers.

Humanity barely overcame it the last time when it arose in Germany - I want to have faith in humanity to overcome it entirely this time, but the 40 000ft view reveals to me that the only solution is East and West must allow criticism of one another without censorship - including claims questioning the veracity of such statements as "the Qur'an is the perfect word of the creator of the universe."

Such beliefs represent the very insanity that characterizes the dark ages: like recurring plagues of Egypt. Humanity needs to rid itself of these old idolatrous empires which are based on false claims and forge a path to lasting peace that involves no bloodshed. The entire point is to stop the bloodshed.

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1 hour ago, 9-18-1 said:

And in this Churchill is 100% correct - the goal of Islam is to retro-censor statements like this, but Churchill's knowledge of this cold reality is what advised his victory in WW2 - the refusal to adopt a totalitarian state such as Fascist Nazism.

Churchill had no qualms about making a deal with that devil Stalin. Communism was the totalitarian system of the Bolsheviks.
It is said that under Stalin they killed even more people than the Nazis. No need to quibble over a few million though... but hey!

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