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52 minutes ago, Rue said:

It is clearly we Canadians who must take responsibility for our US dependency. You are absolutely right. I do think however your President is mentally ill and dettached from reality and the realities of a global market place. He is a delusional sociopath who thinks he can bully and control everyone and dismiss and insult anyone who does not feed his ego.

 

Trump has only exposed Canada's unhealthy economic (and military) dependency on the U.S. for all to see.   His claims about tariffs, non tariff barriers, dumping, transshipments, and IP theft are not "delusional"...they are fact.

Of course Canada and its putz prime minister Justin Trudeau want to keep the status quo....too bad...those days are over.

As for the UN....screw them and the horses they rode in on !

 

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He is self destructing and he's doing serious harm to the US. To see the US President laughed off at the UN was as sad as it gets. If you care about your nation at least have the integrity to point  out his lies, falsehoods and question and challenge his abusive language, abusive public behaviour of his wife, his nonsensical ramblings, his inability to grasp the most basic of human behaviour skills.

If you find his behaviour siding with Putin over his own country's intelligence services and FBI iacceptable say so. He's compromised by the Russian mob.

 

Don't care...Russians...Canadians...Chinese...Mexicans...all the same game to me.  Nothing special about deadbeat Canada....they all want a piece of the American pie.

 

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You have a leader who talks, sounds and engages in references no different than Mussolini and Hitler. How far he intends to go we shall see.

I think the Congress and the entire US civil service and Armed Forces and enforcement agencies know Trump is a security risk and now have no choice but to contain him. I think his last straw was attacking his own Attorney General and making a fool of himself at the UN with a childish nonsensical non policy speech that sounded just like the one Mummar Ghadafi gave.

 

I think they know that Trump will not tolerate business as usual, and that includes giving a damn what Canada thinks about it.

Trump was elected to break things...and he is doing a great job at that.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Rue said:

It is clearly we Canadians who must take responsibility for our US dependency. You are absolutely right. I do think however your President is mentally ill and dettached from reality and the realities of a global market place. He is a delusional sociopath who thinks he can bully and control everyone and dismiss and insult anyone who does not feed his ego.

He is self destructing and he's doing serious harm to the US. To see the US President laughed off at the UN was as sad as it gets. If you care about your nation at least have the integrity to point  out his lies, falsehoods and question and challenge his abusive language, abusive public behaviour of his wife, his nonsensical ramblings, his inability to grasp the most basic of human behaviour skills.

If you find his behaviour siding with Putin over his own country's intelligence services and FBI iacceptable say so. He's compromised by the Russian mob.

He now has turned today from using Canada as his scapegoat to China saying China is why everyone should not vote for democrats accusing China of meddling in the mid term elections. He is a true sociopath. He turns the very behaviour he is guilty of on others to try take attention away from himself.

China is a tough and often ruthless trader yes. We all know that. What makes China any different than what Trump stands for?

You have a leader who talks, sounds and engages in references no different than Mussolini and Hitler. How far he intends to go we shall see.

I think the Congress and the entire US civil service and Armed Forces and enforcement agencies know Trump is a security risk and now have no choice but to contain him. I think his last straw was attacking his own Attorney General and making a fool of himself at the UN with a childish nonsensical non policy speech that sounded just like the one Mummar Ghadafi gave.

 

1. And I suppose that you must think that Hillary was sane? LMAO. Global markets are way up Thanks to Trump. The markets keep breaking records since Trump became president. Not all conservative and pro Trump people think like you do. You need to get your head of the CNN democratic swampy sand box and try learning something by listening to FOX News for a change. For anyone who thinks that Trump is mentally ill and detached from reality is indeed themselves the ones who are the mentally ill and detached from reality ones. I do not understand as to how someone who is a billionaire and who runs multiple enterprises like Trump does can be some how seen as to be mentally ill and detached. By your silly ass comment Trump should be in a mental institution right now if he is suppose to be mentally ill. Try and get real for a change will you. 

2. How is Trump harming America? Show me? Those idiots at the UN are the ones that should be laughed at and not Trump. Those mentally ill fools that work in that loony bin called the UN  are the ones that are mentally ill and detached from society. As a matter of fact those useless bunch of twits are trying to make the rest of the world go mentally ill and to try and take the rest of the world down with them. What terrible and nasty things or nice to be saying about Obama and his nasty old wife Michelle. Lies and falsehoods are their middle names. LOL.

3. How would you know that Putin is in bed with the Russian zionist mob? At least that is what David Duke has pointed out in the past. Apparently Putin took down a lot of the Russian zionist mob. Trump stands for America and American first and freedom. The Chinese leader is a communist dictator that kills his opponents and jails his own people if they disagree with the communist dictator. Some trading partner to be dealing with, right Rue? Well according to you it's alright, eh Rue? 

4. Trump will be doing a lot more pissing off of anti-Trump haters for another 6 years. Just try and get use to it. Why do you always have to say Hitler and Mussolini all the time. Communists like Stalin and Mao murdered a lot more people than Hitler or Mussolini ever did. Hitler and Mussolini were pussycats compared too those killers. 

5. You sure do have a lot to learn about politics because where I am sitting you appear to know nothing at all. You just keep yelling and screaming about Trump like the rest of those other leftist liberal democratic crybaby losers who still cannot accept the fact that they lost the election.and neither can you. What are you going to do for the next six years? LOL. 

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31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Trump has only exposed Canada's unhealthy economic (and military) dependency on the U.S. for all to see.   His claims about tariffs, non tariff barriers, dumping, transshipments, and IP theft are not "delusional"...they are fact.

Of course Canada and its putz prime minister Justin Trudeau want to keep the status quo....too bad...those days are over.

As for the UN....screw them and the horses they rode in on !

 

 

Don't care...Russians...Canadians...Chinese...Mexicans...all the same game to me.  Nothing special about deadbeat Canada....they all want a piece of the American pie.

 

 

I think they know that Trump will not tolerate business as usual, and that includes giving a damn what Canada thinks about it.

Trump was elected to break things...and he is doing a great job at that.

 

 

1. Yup, his daddy's old game plan of screw America and Canadians also may soon come to an end. The status quo must go. The sad part about all of this is that this prime mistake of ours is going to take the rest of Canada down with him. The UN is a useless bag of air farts. They have solved nothing since they came into existence. There have been more wars and conflicts since they came on the scene riding on those donkeys that they rode in on. Too bad America could not get rid of the UN building and just shut it down. Let the UN go start up in some third world country because that is all that the UN appears to give a shit about is the third world. What a waste of taxpayer's tax dollars keeping that useless UN outfit alive and keep stealing from the West.

2. If Canada and Canadians only had a leader like Trump dam we would all be living and working in perfect country. Sadly, it would appear, our politicians do not seem to have we the people in their hearts. It's more like they just want to keep kicking we the people in the ass. And what is sadder still/ Most Canadians keep asking for more. Go figure. 

3. Our Canadian leaders have shown us for decades now that they do not appear to have we the people on their radar. Instead they have guns at our heads. 

Trump is for America which no one can believe is possible to have such a leader who is truly there for his people and his country. Shocking. 

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Bush C, Trump did not expose Canadian dependency on US markets, its there for all to see. That is like saying Trump exposed the world has oceans or he has small hands. Can you get real for just once with the rhetoric.

Next Trump can blow hot air all he wants posing as a tough negotiator but the fact is he has no say in actual day to day business. The actual business executives involved who will be most negatively impacted will be the ones who decide and they have already unanimously distanced themselves from Trump. His drama with his signing executive orders is a joke. They had and have zero legal meaning.

Ironically Trump is empowering China, Canada, terrorist nations like Iran all his enemies and his best allies. He's become a poster boy for someone who attacks everyone and this puts everyone he attacks in an allied position to the extent of thinking he's an idiot.

He's making Trudeau look great and he will get him re-elected for standing up to Trump. Thanks Donald..

That said, Iran which is a genuine terrorist threat can use Trump as a cover to pose now as a victim. So can every other dictator like Putin, Kim, and the leaders in China.

Atta boy Donald, keep foaming at  the mouth, sending your idiot twitters and insulting people. Its worked out very well for you. You have a nation that loves you, is united, and is a role model for other democratic nations.

If anyone wants to see just how low the US Presidential office has been dragged down, go back. First listen to interviews with Trump in the 70's and 80's where he clearly did not have Alzheimers to see the difference in his speech pattern, tone of voice, eyes, posture. The first thing you will notice is no slurring, use of one repetitive hand gesture, shaking, slurring or disjointed sentences.

Next listen to the speech of any other President including George Bush Sr. who had asphasia and dyslexia and George Bush Jr. or even Gerald Ford or even T eddy Roosevelt. There have been leaders with serious speech problems but none has lowered themselves to the incoherency of Trump. Not one US President has ever engaged in the kind of abusive, childish, fragmented, disjointed rambles he has.

Its a said day to see him continue to drag the most important position of the world down to the dirt and excrement Trump has.

Its a reflection on something internal in the US that has to be challenged as well as in Canada and the world. WE have all allowed ourselves to stop thinking and let the cell phone and extremists push us around.

My example of idea politicians, are low key, middle of the road people who show politeness, diplomacy, and an ability to see the middle of each position and maintain a dignified speaking style.

William Davis, Joe Clark, Paul Martin, David Crombie, John Tory, those are some I didn't always agree with but showed the dignity of politics if you want to be a true servant of the public. In the US I think of Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan,  as three examples of maintaining a polite sense of dealing with people. I would also add Gerald Ford when he was not falling down.

To end up with such an ignorant, shallow, stupid man like Trump is a tragedy. The Republicans need to bite the bullet and face facts. Their party was derailed by Trump due to their infighting. They have to take it back and restore its respectability and it won't come from the lizard Ted Cruz or the bumbling Mr. I am running away Ryan.

But hey Bush C you are in good company, Taxme loves Trump. That's an endorsement. Lol, you might want to tell Taxme to remember Trump's daughter is now a dare I say it Jewess.. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEk.

Regards,

Hilary Clinton's Lover According to Taxme

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rue said:

Bush C, Trump did not expose Canadian dependency on US markets, its there for all to see. That is like saying Trump exposed the world has oceans. Can you get real for just once with the rhetoric.

 

No...it is a lot more fun to watch Trump laugh at deadbeat Justin Trudeau and his foreign minister's insistence that America keep carrying the most water for the "post WW2 rules based order".     That's the real dependency, on top of 75% of exports going to a single nation...the United States.   Trump owes Canada nothing.

 

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To end up with such an ignorant, shallow, stupid man like Trump is a tragedy. The Republicans need to bite the bullet and face facts. Their party was derailed by Trump. They have to take it back and restore its respectability and it won't come from the lizard Ted Cruz or the bumbling Mr. I am running awat Ryan.

 

Now it is you who is stating the obvious....of course Trump "derailed" the GOP....that's how he got elected....and now they love him (80%).

Either way, all you are doing is reinforcing Canada's dependence on U.S. economics and politics, the same institutions that yielded the likes of Trump and Bill/Hillary Clinton.

I am always amazed at how much importance some Canadians (and other nationals) place on America's president...above politics/politicians in their own nation(s).

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Interesting that there is a comparison between two absolute deadbeats as leaders. Claiming one idiot is better than the other. They are both terrible. Trumps a lunatic who has lost his mind and has no idea where he is most of the time, and Trudeau is a weak ass bleeding heart SJW hyperventilating pussy.

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3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

   Trump owes Canada nothing.

 

Either way, all you are doing is reinforcing Canada's dependence on U.S. economics and politics, the same institutions that yielded the likes of Trump and Bill/Hillary Clinton.

I am always amazed at how much importance some Canadians (and other nationals) place on America's president...above politics/politicians in their own nation(s).

My posts explain the President is simply a titular figure and made it clear he can rave and rant all he wants, business transactions will come down to the business executives most negatively impacted by any trade deal. So I have in fact not Trumped Trump's importance. To me he is just a gas bag.

As for whether Trump owes Canada anything this is no about Trump it is about what makes the most business sense for all sides when transacting across borders. From what I gather if we are to talk about what Trump personally owes, its a lot and he lied about his personal wealth so he could borrow money on falsely presented collateral. He's a fraud. His empire is nothing but debts but hey thanks for bringing that up.

Also I wish nothing to do with Bill and Hilary. As you are well aware they both spread herpes equally.

 

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33 minutes ago, Rue said:

My posts explain the President is simply a titular figure and made it clear he can rave and rant all he wants, business transactions will come down to the business executives most negatively impacted by any trade deal. So I have in fact not Trumped Trump's importance. To me he is just a gas bag.

 

Then why worry about Trump at all ?    How can he be "dangerous" (this topic) if he is just a "gas bag" ?

Trade (i.e. NAFTA) is the topic of a different thread....

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On 9/25/2018 at 12:30 PM, Boges said:

That addresses the first issue you presented. I guess everyone's gotta live somewhere right? 

Here's Ontario https://www.statista.com/statistics/607895/gdp-distribution-of-ontario-canada-by-industry/

At least manufacturing is your #2 industry, at 11%. You're 4.5% higher than BC, and your population is nearly double ours so that's a lot of extra manufacturing jobs. A lot of extra money coming into the province from outside.

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On 9/29/2018 at 10:41 AM, WestCanMan said:

At least manufacturing is your #2 industry, at 11%. You're 4.5% higher than BC, and your population is nearly double ours so that's a lot of extra manufacturing jobs. A lot of extra money coming into the province from outside.

That's why this new NAFTA or USMCTD or whatever is good for Ontario. Lots in the US like to do business with Canada because it's a high wage zone but the dollar makes it competitive. 

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On 9/26/2018 at 8:17 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump was elected to break things...and he is doing a great job at that.

 

This is the most truth you've presented over the past couple years. It's only a matter of time before he breaks the USA completely.

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19 hours ago, GostHacked said:

This is the most truth you've presented over the past couple years. It's only a matter of time before he breaks the USA completely.

:rolleyes:

Really, Gosthacked.   The USA's economy is soaring!  Unemployment is at an all-time low!

Don't superimpose our problem with Trudeau breaking Canada over Trump/USA. We're the ones on a count down here if we don't do anything about this PM we have.

 

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2 hours ago, betsy said:

:rolleyes:

Really, Gosthacked.   The USA's economy is soaring!  Unemployment is at an all-time low!

Don't superimpose our problem with Trudeau breaking Canada over Trump/USA. We're the ones on a count down here if we don't do anything about this PM we have.

 

I hear that line with every presidency so far.  Also the Dow keeps going higher, but what does it mean?  And Trudeau did not break anything, that crime belongs to Trump.  Canada and Mexico did not kill NAFTA.  I don't like Trudeau but he is not the one to blame here.

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As many have long suggested, Trump, the guy who bills himself as a self-made man, made most of his money from his dad. He and daddy engaged in various underhanded schemes along with income tax fraud to transfer over $400 million in todays dollars to Trump. Trump himself makes little money, and his business are mostly there for tax writeoffs. This helps explain why he still won't release his taxes or explain anything about his finances.

But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day.

Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings.

These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances.

The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

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Interesting (Australian?) take on anti-Americanism under President George W. Bush vs. President Donald Trump....

 

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Despite the significant global outrage at US President Donald Trump and his supporters – best highlighted by the Pew surveys and more viscerally by the enormous anti-Trump protests in London in July 2018 – anti-Americanism is less apparent under Trump than it was under President George W. Bush.

Why anti-American sentiment is weaker under Trump than it was under George W. Bush

 

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1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Interesting (Australian?) take on anti-Americanism under President George W. Bush vs. President Donald Trump....

 

 

Interesting article that rings true.

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