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4 minutes ago, Wilber said:

No it isn't perfect but it doesn't allow people who have lost their mandate to make or pass legislation. That at least is democracy.

 

The new terms don't start until January....do you think we elect governors & legislatures and pay them to do nothing for two months ?  

Example:  several natural disasters recently have required action at the state level...but you want them to sit tight and do nothing ?   Brilliant !

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Geeze, dude: one flaw doesn't create a banana republic. Your PM is practically a dictator compared to a U.S. president. Yes, I said it. That's the flaw in the Canadian parliamentary constitution. But it's one you have to live with in order for parliamentary democracy to function. You see? You must take the good with the bad. That doesn't make a banana republic, it just means the constitution was written by human beings. Those who live in glass houses, etc.

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31 minutes ago, Wilber said:

If that flaw allows it to be governed like a banana republic?

 

Sure...it seems to work well in Canada...where promised election reform never happened.    Bananas !

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1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The new terms don't start until January....do you think we elect governors & legislatures and pay them to do nothing for two months ?  

Example:  several natural disasters recently have required action at the state level...but you want them to sit tight and do nothing ?   Brilliant !

Of course not but there is no way they should be allowed to pass laws that restrict the powers of the newly elected. Dumb! Deceitful!  Undemocratic! Sleazy!

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1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Most Americans don't know what a riding is in Canada, and don't care about the flaws in Canadian government and election process.  

 

That’s nice. 

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2 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Of course not but there is no way they should be allowed to pass laws that restrict the powers of the newly elected. Dumb! Deceitful!  Undemocratic! Sleazy!

 

The "newly elected" are only that..."elected".     Sitting governments often pass legislation that impacts future office holders, elections, finance, term limits, etc.

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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s nice. 

 

It really is....no need to wake up each day and constantly worry about what is happening "north of the border"....because it really doesn't matter.

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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The "newly elected" are only that..."elected".     Sitting governments often pass legislation that impacts future office holders, elections, finance, term limits, etc.

But not to restrict the powers of the incoming representatives. 

Not between an election and the new members are seated. Not in our country. As a former admirer of your system, the more I've seen it in action these past few years, the more I appreciate ours, with all its warts.

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2 minutes ago, Wilber said:

But not to restrict the powers of the incoming representatives. 

Not between an election and the new members are seated. Not in our country. As a former admirer of your system, the more I've seen it in action these past few years, the more I appreciate ours, with all its warts.

Yup, and you’ve got to love their politicized court system where justice can be bought. 

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10 minutes ago, Wilber said:

But not to restrict the powers of the incoming representatives.

 

Yes they do...directly and indirectly for all kinds of things.   The process can also be amended, and has been many times.  

 

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Not between an election and the new members are seated. Not in our country. As a former admirer of your system, the more I've seen it in action these past few years, the more I appreciate ours, with all its warts.

 

The USA is not your country.    Both nations have such "warts"...the U.S. has managed to survive for over 250 years after rejecting your system.

The U.S. is the biggest "banana", which is why Canada worries so much about it.

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4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes they do...directly and indirectly for all kinds of things.   The process can also be amended, and has been many times.  

 

 

The USA is not your country.    Both nations have such "warts"...the U.S. has managed to survive for over 250 years after rejecting your system.

Our system didn’t exist when the US was formed.  We had parliaments, yes, but the system changed a lot under Confederation. 

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Our system didn’t exist when the US was formed.  We had parliaments, yes, but the system changed a lot under Confederation. 

 

U.S. government and Constitution has changed many times too....many states were added with their own, different constitutions.

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34 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes they do...directly and indirectly for all kinds of things.   The process can also be amended, and has been many times.  

 

 

The USA is not your country.    Both nations have such "warts"...the U.S. has managed to survive for over 250 years after rejecting your system.

The U.S. is the biggest "banana", which is why Canada worries so much about it.

No it's not my country but that doesn't prevent you from passing judgement on mine on this forum.

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2 minutes ago, Wilber said:

No it's not my country but that doesn't prevent you from passing judgement on mine on this forum.

 

That's right...and as long as you and some others continue to obsess on the USA, my work here will never be done.

Even this forum is hosted in the...United States !

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3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's right...and as long as you and some others continue to obsess on the USA, my work here will never be done.

Even this forum is hosted in the...United States !

Where else would you satisfy your obsession with Canada.

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15 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Where else would you satisfy your obsession with Canada.

 

CBC Forums (now defunct), Politics Canada (also defunct), Globe & Mail, CTV News, The National, HuffPost Canada, etc.

My obsession is Canada's obsession with the United States....watching you watching me.

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And of course, this behaviour sets the precedent that defeated parties can attempt to undermine the parties that have defeated them in the Lame-Duck session. 

The Hypocrisy will be thick when the Democrats take back control of government. Republicans will suddenly care about Executive Orders and Fiscal Responsibility again.  

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12 hours ago, JamesHackerMP said:

Is the banana in "banana republic" somehow Freudian?

What shall we call Canada: the Maple Syrup Monarchy?

1) Surely you know the origins of the phrase.

2)  I'm OK with that.

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12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

CBC Forums (now defunct), Politics Canada (also defunct), Globe & Mail, CTV News, The National, HuffPost Canada, etc.

My obsession is Canada's obsession with the United States....watching you watching me.

Well I don't belong to any US forums so my obsession can't be that bad.

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52 minutes ago, Boges said:

And of course, this behaviour sets the precedent that defeated parties can attempt to undermine the parties that have defeated them in the Lame-Duck session. 

The Hypocrisy will be thick when the Democrats take back control of government. Republicans will suddenly care about Executive Orders and Fiscal Responsibility again.  

Ya think?

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20 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

Shady, after years of whining about Obama's booming economy, you're really going to whine about people paying attention to the U.S. now that your clown president is presiding over the nation's demise? That's hilarious.

The nation's demise...? Can you quantify that?

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2 hours ago, Wilber said:

Well I don't belong to any US forums so my obsession can't be that bad.

 

You are also not a U.S. citizen but seem very concerned with American state and federal government...to what purpose ?

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33 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

You are also not a U.S. citizen but seem very concerned with American state and federal government...to what purpose ?

Sup Pot! Have you met Kettle?

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