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Remember the influx of refugees from Syria?   And, how Goodale and Trudeau assured us about the vetting process?  

How do you explain this?

 

 

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Person of 'national security concern' was accidentally granted permanent residency

A person of "national security concern" was granted permanent residency "due to a series of failures" by the Canadian border agency and immigration department.

In light of the incident, both departments have had to introduce changes in what the public safety minister's office is calling a "completely unacceptable" mistake.

The changes were outlined in a briefing note sent by Canada Border Services Agency president John Ossowski to Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale in early 2018 regarding the 2017 error.

That means the person is entitled to most social benefits — including health care —  can live, work and study anywhere in Canada, and is protected by Canadian law and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but isn't considered a citizen.

Most of the details about why this person is considered a security concern and how they were granted permanent residency were redacted because, among other reasons, officials believe releasing information could hurt "the conduct of international affairs, the defence of Canada or any state allied or associated with Canada."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbsa-permanent-residency-error-1.4978765

 

 How do you make mistakes as serious as this?   When national security is involved - we can't afford any mistakes!

How many more "mistakes" are there that hasn't been discovered yet?

The Trudeau and Goodale must be held accountable!  These two were the ones who'd open our borders despite concerns about the vetting process!

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Changes raise red flags

Ossowski told Goodale that the border agency identified a number of "vulnerabilities" and is taking steps to "respond to this incident and to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbsa-permanent-residency-error-1.4978765

 

A NUMBER OF VULNERABILITIES?

How many vulnerabilities are we talking about here?  What kinds of vulnerabilities are these when this person was granted permanent residence? 

 

Obviously, Goodale and Trudeau lied to Canadians about being prepared  to admit so many refugees!

 

How can you trust our leaders when they're blatantly caught giving false reassurances?  How can we have confidence in their decisions?

 

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"I don't believe this is the only case. I think that this is probably more common than we believe, and it comes down to process, it comes down to organizational structure and it comes down to investment in officers. So, it's concerning."

Last month the Opposition Conservatives called for a review and audit of the immigration screening system after a CBC News investigation revealed a Somali gang member with an extensive criminal record was twice released in Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbsa-permanent-residency-error-1.4978765

 

This should be chilling enough.   I'm beginning to think like a conspiracy theorist -

 suspecting a collusion between Trudeau government and Islamists!

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Botched handling of gangster refugee claimant exposes Canada's screening weaknesses

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/gangster-refugee-canada-immigration-screening-1.4943292

 

 

Boy, considering these expose' comes from CBC.........

.................................the reality must be much more serious than this.

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And here's the latest mockery of our security system!

 

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Speedy acceptance of Saudi shows refugee system’s flaws

 

But the Liberal government’s decision to grant her refugee status virtually sight unseen — in effect, letting her jump the queue — is unwise.

It confirms what many critics of the refugee system have charged: that it is unfair, driven by politics and open to manipulation.

 

Exactly how she made it to Thailand remains murky. She had been on a family holiday in Kuwait. There she eluded her relatives and boarded a flight to Bangkok, with the intention of travelling on to Australia.

How did a young woman under constant watch buy an overseas air ticket, obtain a visa to Australia and lam it to the airport?

 

In the end, both Canada and Australia offered her sanctuary. But the Australians insisted that she go through its standard vetting process first.

Canada waived its usual rules and accepted her as a refugee unconditionally. So she came here. Usually, it takes up to two years for Canada to process a UN refugee claim.

 

https://www.reddeeradvocate.com/opinion/speedy-acceptance-of-saudi-shows-refugee-systems-flaws/

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Betsy.......you risk being called a racist - unCanadian! ;)

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Just the usual Trudeau gov't incompetency, but remember now, we can't question them or we are    ________________    put your name there.

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This is in the context of Canada offering asylum to an 18 year old Saudi woman afraid for her safety in Saudi society after she renounced Islam. 

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4 hours ago, betsy said:

Most of the details about why this person is considered a security concern and how they were granted permanent residency were redacted because, among other reasons, officials believe releasing information could hurt "the conduct of international affairs, the defense of Canada or any state allied or associated with Canada."

I've been concerned about this for a while now - the US could easily not feel we are securing our border (probably because we are not) and relations with the US/Canada could get very strained.

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4 hours ago, betsy said:

Remember the influx of refugees from Syria?   And, how Goodale and Trudeau assured us about the vetting process?  

How do you explain this?

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbsa-permanent-residency-error-1.4978765

 

 How do you make mistakes as serious as this?   When national security is involved - we can't afford any mistakes!

How many more "mistakes" are there that hasn't been discovered yet?

The Trudeau and Goodale must be held accountable!  These two were the ones who'd open our borders despite concerns about the vetting process!

You've never dealt with the CBSA, have you? I have and among the ones I'd dealt with, at least a few were functionally illiterate in their language of work. It wouldn't surprise me if there are a few more like that embedded among their ranks.

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4 hours ago, betsy said:

Remember the influx of refugees from Syria?   And, how Goodale and Trudeau assured us about the vetting process?  

How do you explain this?

This is just typical run of the mill incompetence. Voters/taxpayers/citizens are no better - we're long past the point where we can say its just an accident that our governments are so incapable.

Decades of incompetently and stupidly putting up with our shitty governance has resulted in a world where we have to be constantly worried about the increasingly violent reaction to it.

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A couple of funny things that came out of the total clusterf*ck by CBSA/Immigration are the following:

1) The CBC, the so-called liberal news media that gives a pass to the Trudeau government, is who broke this story

2) The Liberals are following the exact same process and procedure that the Harper government practiced. But the "OMG TRUDEAU IS LETTING IN MUSLIM TERRORISTS IN HORDES!!!!11" crowd don't want to acknowledge that.

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2 hours ago, marcus said:

2) The Liberals are following the exact same process and procedure that the Harper government practiced.

 

WRONG!

Was there ever a time when a person that's considered a  concern to our national security ever granted permanent resident status?

Was there ever a time during Harper's government wherein this same thing happened?


 

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Canada waived its usual rules and accepted her as a refugee unconditionally.

So she came here. Usually, it takes up to two years for Canada to process a UN refugee claim.

 

 

Did Harper government ever make a mockery of our national security?

 

 

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But the "OMG TRUDEAU IS LETTING IN MUSLIM TERRORISTS IN HORDES!!!!11" crowd don't want to acknowledge that.

 

yes, they are!

One terrorist is too many.  Go ahead, why don't you ask people who'd lost loved ones, or survived a terror attack!

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2 hours ago, marcus said:

A couple of funny things that came out of the total clusterf*ck by CBSA/Immigration are the following:

1) The CBC, the so-called liberal news media that gives a pass to the Trudeau government, is who broke this story

 

 

You have to wonder why indeed they broke that story.     Must be the CBC is getting quite concerned, too! 

If the CBC feels they have to break this story - Canadians should be truly alarmed by this.

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1 hour ago, betsy said:

You have to wonder why indeed they broke that story.     Must be the CBC is getting quite concerned, too! 

If the CBC feels they have to break this story - Canadians should be truly alarmed by this.

Typical hack response.

The CBC is one of the jewels of Canada. It's the closest thing to a non-partisan media outlet. But just because some of their news may upset the cheerleaders of one party, suddenly they are biased.

 

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5 hours ago, marcus said:

A couple of funny things that came out of the total clusterf*ck by CBSA/Immigration are the following:

1) The CBC, the so-called liberal news media that gives a pass to the Trudeau government, is who broke this story

2) The Liberals are following the exact same process and procedure that the Harper government practiced. But the "OMG TRUDEAU IS LETTING IN MUSLIM TERRORISTS IN HORDES!!!!11" crowd don't want to acknowledge that.

Just a question , when are the Liberals going to stand up, grow a pair  and own their mistakes, why must ever liberal compare their screw ups to Harpers government, it is the Liberal go to statement....Hey in case you have not heard the Harper government is NO LONGER in power , the Liberals are and they have been so over 3 years now....at what point is the liberals going to take ownership of their mistakes....and what point are the liberals sheeple going to see Justin's reign for what it is , one mistake after another....

And it has been pointed out this is not the first case, or second, or third this is a common mistake....for you liberals let me break IT DOWN....it means it happens a lot....and that is not acceptable conduct for a government dept....does not matter if your a liberal or a con. 

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1 hour ago, marcus said:

Typical hack response.

The CBC is one of the jewels of Canada. It's the closest thing to a non-partisan media outlet. But just because some of their news may upset the cheerleaders of one party, suddenly they are biased.

 

Typical dick response....

Yes one could compare the CBC to be almost as non partisan as the Rebel media outlet, thats sarcasm in case you did not get it....Did the Rebel get any of that media money Justin was flinging around....nope...why not...

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I don't think he's being a dick, I think he probably believes it, it's not different than the Soviet Union wherein the Soviet people were indoctrinated from birth by their propaganda arms Pravda and Tass to be totalitarians wherein the interests of the state and associated propaganda arms was indistinguishable from themselves and their own interests.

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34 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Just a question , when are the Liberals going to stand up, grow a pair  and own their mistakes, why must ever liberal compare their screw ups to Harpers government, it is the Liberal go to statement....Hey in case you have not heard the Harper government is NO LONGER in power , the Liberals are and they have been so over 3 years now....at what point is the liberals going to take ownership of their mistakes....and what point are the liberals sheeple going to see Justin's reign for what it is , one mistake after another....

And it has been pointed out this is not the first case, or second, or third this is a common mistake....for you liberals let me break IT DOWN....it means it happens a lot....and that is not acceptable conduct for a government dept....does not matter if your a liberal or a con. 

I'm not a Trudeau/Liberal supporter. So you made no point there.

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3 minutes ago, marcus said:

I'm not a Trudeau/Liberal supporter. So you made no point there.

Abductive reasoning, Duck Test; looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, is probably a duck by logical abduction.

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36 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Typical dick response....

You're angry.

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Yes one could compare the CBC to be almost as non partisan as the Rebel media outlet, thats sarcasm in case you did not get it....Did the Rebel get any of that media money Justin was flinging around....nope...why not...

CBC also received money from the Harper government. You are not proving any points.

 

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Abductive reasoning, Duck Test; looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, is probably a duck by logical abduction.

That makes no sense. 

He called me a Liberal/Trudeau supporter. I am not. Pretty straight forward.

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1 minute ago, marcus said:

That makes no sense. 

He called me a Liberal/Trudeau supporter. I am not. Pretty straight forward.

The Duck Test is of course a fallacy, but a fallacy simply means unproven, doesn't mean it's not true. /shrugs

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Just now, Dougie93 said:

The Duck Test is of course a fallacy, but a fallacy simply means unproven, doesn't mean it's not true. /shrugs

He accused me of not admitting problems with the Liberals, "as a Liberal supporter". I am not a Liberal supporter. 

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