Canada Plans Regime Change for Venezuela

[bush_cheney2004 3,523]

Perhaps Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland think an adventure in Venezuela will be sufficient to wag the dog back home in an election year, but the opposite is happening.    President Maduro actually received a bigger voter mandate than the Liberals/Trudeau in the last election.     Let the games begin....

 

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Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland hosted counterparts from across the Western Hemisphere on Monday as the so-called Lima Group met in Ottawa in an effort to co-ordinate strategies on a goal they already agree on: the end of Nicolas Maduro's government in Venezuela and new elections to be held under an administration headed by the self-declared interim president, Juan Guaido.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezuela-maduro-unrest-lima-group-1.5004399

 

Should Canada be interfering in Venezuela, trying to topple another elected president, just as Canada did to Haiti in 2004 ?

Edited February 5, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Dougie93 589]

"When Canada does it its legal" /Nixonian Liberals

When George W, Bush does it; "crime", when Justin Trudeau does it; "Sunny Ways".

[GostHacked 427]

17 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Perhaps Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland think an adventure in Venezuela will be sufficient to wag the dog back home in an election year, but the opposite is happening.    President Maduro actually received a bigger voter mandate than the Liberals/Trudeau in the last election.     Let the games begin....

 

 

Should Canada be interfering in Venezuela, trying to topple another elected president, just as Canada did to Haiti in 2004 ?

Shall we talk about Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen ?????? Let's not forget the USA's involvement in Haiti as well. 

To be fair.

[marcus 378]

3 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Shall we talk about Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen ?????? Let's not forget the USA's involvement in Haiti as well. 

To be fair.

Don't get into a pissing war with BC2004. He is all in for imperialism and colonization and tyrants (as long as they're our tyrants).

He is just taking this opportunity, and rightly so, to let us know about Trudeau's decision to cheerlead regime change while many of us cry about Trump and other U.S. presidents' policy of regime change. 

Trudeau, just like all of his predecessors, have walked the same double standard foreign policy line. 

Example: Madura bad. Al Sisi good. 

Today, Canada decides to stand up for human rights in... (spins wheel) Venezuela: Neil Macdonald

[OftenWrong 1,741]

52 minutes ago, marcus said:

Trudeau, just like all of his predecessors, have walked the same double standard foreign policy line. 

Why Venezuela? "Because we can."

[Dougie93 589]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

Don't get into a pissing war with BC2004. He is all in for imperialism and colonization and tyrants (as long as they're our tyrants).

He is just taking this opportunity, and rightly so, to let us know about Trudeau's decision to cheerlead regime change while many of us cry about Trump and other U.S. presidents' policy of regime change. 

Trudeau, just like all of his predecessors, have walked the same double standard foreign policy line. 

Example: Madura bad. Al Sisi good.

El-Sisi has a lot more support than Maduro, the street in Egypt put el-Sisi in, he is a cult of the personality populist like Chavez.

The problem with Maduro is that he's not Chavez.  No cult of the personality and so now the street is turning on him.

Edited February 6, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93 589]

If Maduro was ruling with an iron fist, and it was stable, the economy was functioning and there wasn't a massive exodus of refugees, I don't think the Americans would be doing anything about it.  It's just getting so big now, it's spreading all over the region, and so the Hegemon is being drawn in by default.

[marcus 378]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

If Maduro was ruling with an iron fist, and it was stable, the economy was functioning and there wasn't a massive exodus of refugees, I don't think the Americans would be doing anything about it.  It's just getting so big now, it's spreading all over the region, and so the Hegemon is being drawn in by default.

I would disagree.

It's because of the oil and how the dictator/elected official is willing to share the oil:

 

[Dougie93 589]

I would disagree, the oil must come to market, there is no boycotting the American Hegenomy for oil, because oil is traded in US dollars, which the likes of Venezuela desperately need, and because the Americans rule the waves, so there's nowhere they do not control the flow of oil.

The Americans invading countries for oil is a myth.  The Americans don't need to sit on the oil, it comes to them no matter what.

The Americans invade countries for culture, it's the Union and Manifest Destiny, called to free all the slaves everywhere, by making the world into America.

[Dougie93 589]

I mean, if you don't like America, the truth of it is far more frightening than run o' the mill smash and grab territorial  imperialism.

Me, I love America, so I'm down for it, come and free me Uncle Abe, beam me up, Scotty.

[Yzermandius19 321]

18 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The Americans invade countries for culture, it's the Union and Manifest Destiny, called to free all the slaves everywhere, by making the world into America.

Humanitarian Pixie Dust is a hell of a drug.

 

Edited February 6, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93 589]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Humanitarian Pixie Dust is a hell of a drug.

This is the mother of all pixie dusts, run o' the mill pixie dust is Jesus, the pixie dust from Gettysburg is God.

[Yzermandius19 321]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

This is the mother of all pixie dusts, run o' the mill pixie dust is Jesus, the pixie dust from Gettysburg is God.

The purest supply in the world, straight outta Gettysburg. Lincoln struck the mother lode alright.

Edited February 6, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93 589]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

The purest supply in the world, straight outta Gettysburg.

And across the West, until it ran into an ocean and looked across the waves.

  Then it went after Spain first; Remember the Maine.

[Dougie93 589]

Then they took down their arch Nemesis, the British.

Nary a shot fired. London came to Wall Street on its knees, America bought the Empire, paid cash for it.

[bush_cheney2004 3,523]

Another cynical observation from Canadian media on Liberal party intervention designs on Venezuela.    I suspect that more CBC photos and video of human suffering are needed to better sell the deal back home.  

 

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For all the talk of “democracy promotion,” the democracy that the Canadian government is really focused on is its own, and the only thing it wants to promote is the Liberal party. This is a Canadian election year, after all, and following the gaffes in India, and amid tensions with the United States, China and Saudi Arabia, this is an opportunity for the Trudeau administration to burnish its image at home as a strong leader on the international stage while also finding a way to show the tariff-slapping Trump administration it’s a good friend that deserves a better deal.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canadas-leadership-on-venezuela-is-misguided-misdirected-and-a/

 

[Dougie93 589]

I'm sold on taking Maduro down, if the Venezuelan people were not in the way, I'd happily tac nuke that fat bastard.

[bush_cheney2004 3,523]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I'm sold on taking Maduro down, if the Venezuelan people were not in the way, I'd happily tac nuke that fat bastard.

 

Well, that's the problem....Maduro has more voter support than Trudeau. 

Just put some fresh batteries in Dick Cheney's pacemaker and get oil production back on line.

 

[Dougie93 589]

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Well, that's the problem....Maduro has more voter support than Trudeau. 

Just put some fresh batteries in Dick Cheney's pacemaker and get oil production back on line.

 

I just hate commies,  I don't care how you get them into the helicopter, whenever you do, I'm ready to chuck those commies out the door, Pinochet style.

[Dougie93 589]

As to Dick Cheney, I think he had the right idea, just the wrong war.  If I was gonna fight World War Three tho, Cheney is my guy.

[bush_cheney2004 3,523]

18 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I just hate commies,  I don't care how you get them into the helicopter, whenever you do, I'm ready to chuck those commies out the door, Pinochet style.

 

It's not even so much about commies...Maduro has managed to screw up petroleum production from the world's largest reserve of sweet crude.   Trudeau and his like minded ilk can use "human rights" for the cover story, but oil matters more to the world's hydrocarbon economy.   If you eff it up, somebody will come in and fix it for you one way or another. 

[Dougie93 589]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

It's not even so much about commies...Maduro has managed to screw up petroleum production from the world's largest reserve of sweet crude.   Trudeau and his like minded ilk can use "human rights" for the cover story, but oil matters more to the world's hydrocarbon economy.   If you eff it up, somebody will come in and fix it for you one way or another. 

He screwed it up because he's a commie.   That's what commies do, they screw things up, and then tens of millions of innocent people suffer the consequences.

Targeted assassination is green lit for communist dictators, but you gotta have the succession plan in place before you bust a cap in that

[bush_cheney2004 3,523]

Venezuela's GDP has fallen by 50% since Maduro took over from Chavez.....even Chavez didn't screw up so badly.   These guys think they are the next Fidel Castro, a commie dictator that the Trudeau family loved and adored.   There is a difference between a competent commie dictator and failed wannabes like Maduro.

 

 

[Dougie93 589]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Venezuela's GDP has fallen by 50% since Maduro took over from Chavez.....even Chavez didn't screw up so badly.   These guys think they are the next Fidel Castro, a commie dictator that the Trudeau family loved and adored.   There is a difference between a competent commie dictator and failed wannabes like Maduro.

If there is a viable succession plan, I'll take a competent commie dictator down, but if there's not,  then as Big Daddy Trump just said in the SOTU; "Principled Realism"

[bush_cheney2004 3,523]

Well that's always been a problem...even in Canada.   People rally around leaders who are going to "stick it" to those damn 'muricans but usually end up sticking it to themselves instead.   Then they whine and cry about it. 

This is not an issue in Kuwait.