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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Then Trudeau can suffer too....for SNC-Lavalin and his government's incompetence.   Trump will always matter more than Trudeau.

Trump will always matter more to the likes of you, but when he gets kicked out of office he will matter more to the courts it would seem given the number of suits stacked up against him.

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1 minute ago, Owly said:

Apparently you remain ignorant of who requested this arrest under that treaty. 

 

...and your stupid government was outsmarted by Trump...again.

At the same time, your stupid government was hosing up the SNC-Lavalin bribery charges.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

...and your stupid government was outsmarted by Trump...again.

At the same time, your stupid government was hosing up the SNC-Lavalin bribery charges.

ha ha ha Trump can't even outsmart his buddy fat kim.

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1 hour ago, Owly said:

ha ha ha Trump can't even outsmart his buddy fat kim.

To be fair, Kim has no retaliation action (missile test, artillery attack ....) , and there is no funny business at the borders.  The jury is still out.  :P

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1 hour ago, egghead said:

To be fair, Kim has no retaliation action (missile test, artillery attack ....) , and there is no funny business at the borders.  The jury is still out.  :P

No missile test lately but he is rebuilding a test facility he "agreed" to disassemble which Trump tried to tout as a win. Oops!

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18 hours ago, Owly said:

Trump will always matter more to the likes of you, but when he gets kicked out of office he will matter more to the courts it would seem given the number of suits stacked up against him.

Not a friend of trumps, but trudeau wished he had his numbers. Trudeau might not even finish his term, where trump will probably win a the 2nd one.

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38 minutes ago, PIK said:

Not a friend of trumps, but trudeau wished he had his numbers. Trudeau might not even finish his term, where trump will probably win a the 2nd one.

The SNC business has caused Trudeau's numbers to drop slightly below Trumps, although the numbers mean different things in the different systems. What may come to haunt Trump is what could come out of the Mueller report when we get to hear the full file and not just Barr's 4 pager.

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I love how the Liberal party is busy fighting with each other now - snakes eating snakes.

Hopefully it has diverted their attention away from destroying the country for a while.

 

Latest propaganda from the Lib camp:

-"Trudeau was away on vacation, he wasn't aware that Wernick was pressuring Ray-Bold."   [maybe he was in Mexico, wearing a giant sombrero, and couldn't get a phone to his ear. or he was in holland and couldn't hear anything because his wooden shoes were making too much noise. I missed that part of the "official 'splanayshun"] 

-Trudeau didn't really care at all that the Deferred Prosecution bill (the one that he made specifically to protect SNC from criminal prosecution so that they could bid on fat infrastructure projects) wasn't being used to protect SNC Lavalin.

- It was unethical of Ray-Bold to secretly tape a phone conversation. (It's true that in this country, if you call someone on the phone and secretly record the conversation, it can't be used as evidence in court. Buuuuuut...... it can still be used to prove that they're slime.)

 

The scary part is that this is getting to the point where no one could possibly be stupid enough to vote for Trudeau again, and he might resign, which means that the Libs will have a better chance in the next election. Horrible news for Canadians.

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Thing is, trudeau has lied many times to all canadians since the election.

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It is illogical to pose that a person engaging in lying and/or other unethical acts is owed protection through confidentiality. There are exceptions in specific professional relationships only to preserve a greater need to society to encourage trust in that professional relationship.

The purpose and intent of JWR's tape was to expose unethical acts against all of Canadians. In fact it would have  been unehical for her to have remained silent knowing the silence might aid and abet the cover up of an unethical act and/or continuation if unethical actions.

As well there is nothing unethical about proving someone is lying about you. 

The fact the tape is inadmssable  in court without the consent of the taped person does not make it unethical.

A liar is owed nothing but exposure of their lies.

Nuremberg trials made it clear all humans let alone politicians have an ethical duty to question and expose wrong and not blindly obey.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, egghead said:

Haha, Lavalin has purchased the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project from the federal government; what is going on?:huh:

Got a link or two?

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16 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The scary part is that this is getting to the point where no one could possibly be stupid enough to vote for Trudeau again, and he might resign, which means that the Libs will have a better chance in the next election. Horrible news for Canadians.

A very real risk indeed.  Problem is: even if Mr. Dressup was to run again, 905, 416, 514 and 613 will vote Liberal with ANY "leader".

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This sniveling little prick of a Prime Minister decided that speaking out against corruption is not what the Liberals stand for.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-philpott-trudeau-snc-lavalin-1.5081443

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Liberal MPs apparently weren't convinced that her continued presence in caucus meant all that much. Hours later, confirming the expulsion of both Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opted for another choice of words.

"Civil wars within parties are incredibly damaging because they signal to Canadians that we care more about ourselves than we do about them," Trudeau said Tuesday evening, casting back to the infighting that dominated earlier eras of the Liberal party.

What a jerk.

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People will argue about who is most to blame for the harm done to the Liberal government over the last two months. But Liberals seem to believe Wilson-Raybould and Philpott didn't do very much to limit the damage. And one can understand why the members of a team might not take kindly to a teammate they saw as unnecessarily hurting the team's chances of victory.

To extend the sport analogy: no one player is ever supposed to be bigger than the team, except maybe the star. In the case of the red team, the star is still Trudeau, however much his stature has been diminished over the last two months.

Trudeau wants to be that star to make him look good when the whole party is damaged beyond repair in my view. If he wants to be the star, then he can also fall on the sword for his mistakes.

I believe this seals his fate and he will not be PM next election.

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2 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

Mishandled by PM MIlquetoast from the outset. It is a sad, sick and sorry party cannot handle dissention.:(

I think the party can handle it. And if they air it out, then we can work to fix whatever is wrong. But the way Trudeau is doing it is really hurting his standing among Canadians, and among the Liberal Party.   Trudeau is the one that cannot handle the dissent.  It does in fact look like a cover up from the government that they allowed SNC to get away with LOTS of corruption and blackmail. Not just here in Canada, but as we have seen , abroad in places like Libya.

Trudeau needs to go. And not just from the PM's office, he needs to be removed from the Liberal party as well.

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On 3/30/2019 at 10:25 AM, Zeitgeist said:

I agree with her on that.  Racism and mistreatment of Indigenous people is a reality.  It’s hard to know whether a jury is right or wrong without witnessing the trial or knowing all the details.  Doesn’t sound like a just outcome though.  People had stolen a van and were drinking on his property.  He reached inside the van and says his gun went off accidentally.  I guess it comes down to whether he was believable.  It’s sad and tragic.  

As acting AG she had no business commenting on the jury verdict no mater what the outcome was, Zeitgeist. Sad and tragic it is and could have been avoided had the people in the car not been bent on mischief and invading private property.  There is blame on both side in this matter. 

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On 3/30/2019 at 10:19 AM, Realitycheck said:

All parties are members of the old boys club. I don't think the PM has the testicular fortitude to boot the ladies. Will the caucus? At their peril. The ranks of the Liberal caucus will be devastated of the do so. These two courageous women have the sympathy of the nation-save for a few purblind folks like yourself.

They are gone, gone, gone and so much the better.  Seems like the caucus also had their fill of these two disloyal party members. 

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28 minutes ago, mowich said:

They are gone, gone, gone and so much the better.  Seems like the caucus also had their fill of these two disloyal party members. 

What flavour is that kool-aid? Trudeau was attempting to subvert the course of justice. This is a chargeable offense. Why have he and the other's not been charged?  

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49 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

What flavour is that kool-aid? Trudeau was attempting to subvert the course of justice. This is a chargeable offense. Why have he and the other's not been charged?  

Honestly, Realitycheck..........I could care less what happens to these two except for the fact that they are the best enablers of the Conservative Party that we've had in ages.  Every single thing they have done to irritate the PM and their fellow members has been a boon to our party.  Keep it up ladies you are doing a fine job and we thank you. 

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27 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

JWR herself said no laws were broken by the Libs.  Was the pressure from the PMO inappropriate?  Yes.  Was JWR inappropriate in her attempt to make a mountain out of a molehill with this whole drawn out and very public ordeal?  Yes.  JWR referenced "speaking truth to power" and the "Saturday Night Massacre", a reference to Watergate.  What was she playing at?  She turned impropriety into a major scandal that will likely turn the leadership of the country over to the Conservatives.  Trudeau had to let her and Philpotts go.  The caucus are worried about their employment and wanted them out.  What's more, the PM has many considerations to make, including the constituents in his/her riding and the economic interests of the country.  Either JWR was incredibly naïve or she had an agenda.  She had to go.

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42 minutes ago, mowich said:

Honestly, Realitycheck..........I could care less what happens to these two except for the fact that they are the best enablers of the Conservative Party that we've had in ages.  Every single thing they have done to irritate the PM and their fellow members has been a boon to our party.  Keep it up ladies you are doing a fine job and we thank you. 

You're dreaming in colour. These women have more political savvy, morals and ethics than the entire Reform Party combined. You'd better hope the feckless an vacant X=Scheer doesn't have to engage either one of them face to face. He'd depart a bleeding wreckage as he did when he engaged me recently.  The person you should be cheering on is Trudeau who is entirely and solely responsible for the entire fiasco.

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40 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

JWR herself said no laws were broken by the Libs.  Was the pressure from the PMO inappropriate?  Yes.  Was JWR inappropriate in her attempt to make a mountain out of a molehill with this whole drawn out and very public ordeal?  Yes.  JWR referenced "speaking truth to power" and the "Saturday Night Massacre", a reference to Watergate.  What was she playing at?  She turned impropriety into a major scandal that will likely turn the leadership of the country over to the Conservatives.  Trudeau had to let her and Philpotts go.  The caucus are worried about their employment and wanted them out.  What's more, the PM has many considerations to make, including the constituents in his/her riding and the economic interests of the country.  Either JWR was incredibly naïve or she had an agenda.  She had to go.

Jody did nothing wrong except in the minds of the liberal kool-aid sippers. The taping is perfectly legal under the criminal code and the only folks who see it as wrong are those who are pissed it showed her 100% correct and Trudeau et al complete liars. Trudeau has mis-handled this issue from the outset and is solely responsible for the entire fiasco.

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