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2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Why don't you take exception to it by arguing the issues. 

What's to argue?  Clearly America is superior to Canada in every respect, except perhaps ice hockey, but even there they have closed the gap.

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Oh well huff and puff as you like. I'm just doing reconnaissance, figuring out who the forum clique is here, and the parameters of the moderation to see where the limits are.

I see. Are you confessing to planning an attack on the forum? You do know parameters change with situational developments, right?

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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

What's to argue?  Clearly America is superior to Canada in every respect, except perhaps ice hockey, but even there they have closed the gap.

See, now you're getting the idea...

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2 minutes ago, Argus said:

I see. Are you confessing to planning an attack on the forum? You do know parameters change with situational developments, right?

What's to attack?   Before I recommend a forum to people who are used to free speech, I have to warn them about the Canadian speech police and how to avoid getting banned by  a Canadian forum clique.

 

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I mean, I've never been on a forum run by Canadians, I assumed it was snowflake, but I'm still learning about how snowflake it is, this is all new to me.

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10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

What's to argue?  Clearly America is superior to Canada in every respect, except perhaps ice hockey, but even there they have closed the gap.

Brainless, thoughtless drivel is not something likely to impress or convince anyone. America is superior in numbers. That's about it. Well, it does have better weather in the southern states. I'll give them that. But then so does Mexico. I can't really see any superiority in anything that doesn't flow from simply having large numbers. Its political class is utterly corrupt and has no interest in the welfare of the country or its people. Its education system is poor enough that massive numbers must pay for private education. Its health care is the most expensive in the world but has poor outcomes. Income mobility, which used to be the ultimate American triumph, is now lower than in some third world countries. It has a dullard of a president who can be reasonably suspected of working for the Russians. There is a lot to fairly criticize here. Mindless patriotism is silly.

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43 minutes ago, Argus said:

And how would that be different from the internet? Except the random weirdos at the bus station might vomit on your shoes.

Not much different than random weirdos vomiting all over the forum

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2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I mean, I've never been on a forum run by Canadians, I assumed it was snowflake, but I'm still learning about how snowflake it is, this is all new to me.

And yet you insist you're Canadian...

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4 minutes ago, Argus said:

Brainless, thoughtless drivel is not something likely to impress or convince anyone. America is superior in numbers. That's about it. Well, it does have better weather in the southern states. I'll give them that. But then so does Mexico. I can't really see any superiority in anything that doesn't flow from simply having large numbers. Its political class is utterly corrupt and has no interest in the welfare of the country or its people. Its education system is poor enough that massive numbers must pay for private education. Its health care is the most expensive in the world but has poor outcomes. Income mobility, which used to be the ultimate American triumph, is now lower than in some third world countries. It has a dullard of a president who can be reasonably suspected of working for the Russians. There is a lot to fairly criticize here. Mindless patriotism is silly.

America has the numbers, because America is the real free country in North America, while Canada is the socialistic nanny state.

The only people who want to come to Canada, are the people who can't get into the USA.  The capital that comes to Canada, comes as an arbitrage play in the American market, capital would flee Canada precipitously  if not for the Americans.

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9 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

What's to attack?   Before I recommend a forum to people who are used to free speech, I have to warn them about the Canadian speech police and how to avoid getting banned by  a Canadian forum clique.

Having spent time on reddit, I can state without hesitation that this one is far, far and away more open to free speech than they are. Most America-based sites, in fact, seem to embrace freedom of speech only so long as your ideological views coincide with that of the moderators/operators.

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Just now, Dougie93 said:

America has the numbers, because America is the real free country in North America, while Canada is the socialistic nanny state.

Mindless drivel. The US had the numbers a hundred years ago, despite the fact neither country had any social welfare programs.  Even up to 1945 - still no social programs, America had ten times the population of Canada. Why? Because it's too damn cold here! And it gets worse the further north you go. It's got nothing to do with freedoms. America has no more freedoms than Canada.

 

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3 minutes ago, Argus said:

Having spent time on reddit, I can state without hesitation that this one is far, far and away more open to free speech than they are. Most America-based sites, in fact, seem to embrace freedom of speech only so long as your ideological views coincide with that of the moderators/operators.

I've never been on reddit, I only know one American troll from reddit, and he would get banned here very quickly, but most Americans I know are more like Bush_Cheney, if they know what the rules are, they will work within them. 

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I'm not saying that the people I know would try to wreck the forum, but like me, they would be invoking a long historical perspective and the story of their people from the 18th century, because that is the American Religion,  which apparently is a no-no to the forum clique around here.

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3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I'm not saying that the people I know would try to wreck the forum, but like me, they would be invoking a long historical perspective and the story of their people from the 18th century, because that is the American Religion,  which apparently is a no-no to the forum clique around here.

Oh for... Americans don't even fucking KNOW their history. American's have a historical MYTHOLOGY born of cowboy movies. Ask most Americans if they know that Black people were being effectively enslaved right up until the second world war and they'll give you a blank look. Ask them if they heard much about the brutality and slaughter and rape and burnings the revolutionary side engaged in towards loyalists and they'll be astonished. Americans know mostly what Hollywood has told them. And Hollywood told them brave plow boys shot at those evil redcoats, not that they raped their neighbor's wife and kids, then cut their throats and burned their farmhouse down around them.

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Oh, the Americans I know are fully aware of the failure of the Union to provide the Mule and Forty Acres, to include that the planting aristocracy was able to overthrow Appomattox Court House for the most part, to include switching to indentured slavery after.

Some are Yankees and so say its the fault of the Southrons, some are from Dixie and say it was the Blue Coats who failed so don't blame Johnny Reb.

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They are also however aware that Canada's slaves were kept in the West Indies, and that after the Crown de jure freed them, the slaveholders in the West Indies did the same thing the slave holders in Dixie did, also de facto slavery right into the 20th century.

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The idea that Canadians know their history and not a mythology, is laughable, but the Canadian mythology doesn't travel, everyone outside of Canada knows that Canadians are holier than thou hypocrites, that's what Canada is known for.  And Ice hockey.  And that's about it.

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3 hours ago, Argus said:

I don't support anything without borders. There are no absolute freedoms.

Well at least you finally admit that you aren't pro free-speech, and you like rules that limit speech of people that you find to be idiots. Might want to rethink that Libertarian label though.

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4 hours ago, Argus said:

Yeah. It pisses me off that turningrite was suspended and might never come back because those two feeble minded twerps were ragging on him. We lose serious members because of all the brainless shit from the likes of these two, Taxme, Hatespoliticians, etc.

They suspended me too, couldn't post any content for a week, because of "image trolling". Apparently I'm not allowed to embed videos in my posts or something. 

Overzealous moderators going to overzealously moderate, so be careful what you wish for, or those same tools will be used against posters that you happen to like, which will then make them think twice about continuing to post here in the future.

The censorship you advocate for is what is killing the forum, not me and Dougie.
/shrugs

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28 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Well at least you finally admit that you aren't pro free-speech, and you like rules that limit speech of people that you find to be idiots. Might want to rethink that Libertarian label though.

There are few absolutist Libertarians either. Everything has limits. As they say, your freedom to swing your fist ends at my nose. You can shit in your own house all you want, but not out on the sidewalk where others walk. Being in any kind of community requires compromise.

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3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Why don't you take exception to it by arguing the issues. 

That's what we do, some people around here just don't take very kindly to us, when we do that.
/shrugs

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2 minutes ago, Argus said:

There are few absolutist Libertarians either. Everything has limits. As they say, your freedom to swing your fist ends at my nose. You can shit in your own house all you want, but not out on the sidewalk where others walk. Being in any kind of community requires compromise.

I have not shit on anyone, my fist has met no one's nose. That is just your opinion, and isn't backed up by reality, I'm just shooting the breeze, if people get all offended and storm off, that's not my problem, that is theirs. I didn't censor them, that was Charles Anthony, and then they censored themselves, I had nothing to do with it, turningrite simply couldn't take what he was willing to dish out.

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9 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

They suspended me too, couldn't post any content for a week, because of "image trolling". Apparently I'm not allowed to embed videos in my posts or something. 

You were posting those just to taunt him. That's what trolling means.

9 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

The censorship you advocate for is what is killing the forum, not me and Dougie.
/shrugs

There's no censorship here. The moderation is far slacker than it was a year or two ago. We have both white nationalists who make little secret of their hatred of Jews, and Marxist idiots who make no secret of their hatred for Capitalism.

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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

I have not shit on anyone, that is your opinion, and isn't backed up by reality, I'm just shooting the breeze, if people get all offended and storm off, that's not my problem, that is theirs.

Shoot the breeze in the right topic and we won't have a problem. Any stupid ideas you espouse will be challenged, and likely torn apart. That's what free speech means. Not posting whatever the fuck you want in any damn topic you choose to.

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4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

That's what we do, some people around here just don't take very kindly to us, when we do that.
/shrugs

Really? Haven't I shown that I will reply without insults or complaints when you discuss an on-topic issue?

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