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Just now, Michael Hardner said:

1. Of course.  But that isn't saying anything.

2. That's out of context - she clearly wasn't intending to do that.

3. So ?

4. So ?

You ask about Conservatives and I answer, then you make general comments like:
-Some conservatives condemn white supremacists

-Alex Jones made a claim

-Some guy ...

You're reinforcing my points that rightista logic forces us to never offend people in these ways.  I'm fine with offending people if you intend to offend a deserving opponent, and apologizing if you offend unintentionally.  That's how civilized people work.

2. No it's not. Absolutely not. It's in concordance with what Hasan Piker said. Also a Muslim Democrat.

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9 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Yet, Conservatives still condemn these attacks. 

Ilhan Omar diminishes the importance of thousands of lives lost in a single day by Muslim terrorists.

Her statment regarding 9/11 has been severly twisted by the media. Only using part of the bit she overall said to make her look bad.

The media does this constantly to the ones they despise.

A line similar to "Do you think I like to kill people?"  can be clipped to "I Like to kill people ...."  creating a completely different narrative. And that's what was done to Omar by the media.

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17 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

I accept your defeat. The challenge was to see if anyone could clearly show Sanders is a communist. The only things put out were tripe and nonsense. Nothing substantial. Par for the course for certain members who want to merely shitpost.

 

 

I already posted your boy having his honeymoon in the Soviet Union during the Cold War. You can pretend that was something folks just did back then...but you'd still be pretending.

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1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I already posted your boy having his honeymoon in the Soviet Union during the Cold War. You can pretend that was something folks just did back then...but you'd still be pretending.

You put forth nothing substantial at all. Nor will you. I can guarantee that much for the rest of this thread.

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1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Are you able to argue how the context was wrong? 

100%.  What she was eluding to was because of the 9/11 hijackers, Muslims in America were treated like second class citizens.

Prove me wrong!

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1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

You put forth nothing substantial at all. Nor will you. I can guarantee that much for the rest of this thread.

 

So his glowing portrayals of Marxists like Debs and Gramsci are just coinkydinks?...Bernie doesn't REALLY believe in what those Marxists believed in.

Well, then...in that case...he's a liar rather than a Commie. 

While we're here, what's the difference between a Marxist, a Socialist and a Communist? What's YOUR definition...

 

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3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

So his glowing portrayals of Marxists like Debs and Gramsci are just coinkydinks?...Bernie doesn't REALLY believe in what those Marxists believed in.

Well, then...in that case...he's a liar rather than a Commie. 

While we're here, what's the difference between a Marxist, a Socialist and a Communist? What's YOUR definition...

 

I am still waiting for proof.. like a cite or something. 

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57 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

100%.  What she was eluding to was because of the 9/11 hijackers, Muslims in America were treated like second class citizens.

Prove me wrong!

So, she did use "some people did something" describe 9/11 :lol:

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9 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

I am still waiting for proof.. like a cite or something. 

 

No cite would work with you if honeymooning in the USSR as a guest of the government doesn't. 

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7 minutes ago, egghead said:

So, she did use "some people did something" describe 9/11 :lol:

What of it ?  That turn of phrase fits the point she was trying to make, which is that Muslims who had nothing to do with the act are persecuted for it.  And they continue to be.

You make some point about right-wingers denouncing the Churchill shooting - well nobody demands Conservatives denounce every one of these things ?  Why should they ?  In fact, they go the other way and make lies attributing these acts to others and still get away with it.

 

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Just now, Michael Hardner said:

What of it ?  That turn of phrase fits the point she was trying to make, which is that Muslims who had nothing to do with the act are persecuted for it.  And they continue to be.

You make some point about right-wingers denouncing the Churchill shooting - well nobody demands Conservatives denounce every one of these things ?  Why should they ?  In fact, they go the other way and make lies attributing these acts to others and still get away with it.

 

 

They all use the same guide book called the Quran which orders believers to fight the unbeliever until all religion is for Allah.

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12 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

No cite would work with you if honeymooning in the USSR as a guest of the government doesn't. 

You might be right, but you have failed to even provide one simple cite to back up your 'claim'.

10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

They all use the same guide book called the Quran which orders believers to fight the unbeliever until all religion is for Allah.

This is the exact rhetoric Omar was talking about. 

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16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What of it ?  That turn of phrase fits the point she was trying to make, which is that Muslims who had nothing to do with the act are persecuted for it.  And they continue to be.

You make some point about right-wingers denouncing the Churchill shooting - well nobody demands Conservatives denounce every one of these things ?  Why should they ?  In fact, they go the other way and make lies attributing these acts to others and still get away with it.

 

I don't know, that kind of train of thought usually was used in a reading comprehension practice.  Q: Omar used the phase "some people did something". What is she  refer to?

BTW, I don't want to hijack this thread with Omar's stuff unless she has put her name in the hat. Can someone unmerge the thread?

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58 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

...Bernie doesn't REALLY believe in what those Marxists believed

...he's a liar rather than a Commie.

Could you please point to where Bernie promised gulags to solve America's problems? Marx never mentioned gulags either come to think of it.

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40 minutes ago, egghead said:

I don't know, that kind of train of thought usually was used in a reading comprehension practice.  Q: Omar used the phase "some people did something". What is she  refer to?

BTW, I don't want to hijack this thread with Omar's stuff unless she has put her name in the hat. Can someone unmerge the thread?

I don't believe there was a merge,  or was there? How can you tell?

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8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Could you please point to where Bernie promised gulags to solve America's problems? Marx never mentioned gulags either come to think of it.

May be or may be not, but he said this, I hope he don't mean any CPC political movement :rolleyes:

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“what we have to say about China in fairness to China and it’s leadership is, if I’m not mistaken, they have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, so they’ve done a lot of things for their people.” --- Bernie Sanders

 

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VP Joe Biden has always been a gaffe machine....now he is a very senile gaffe machine on the campaign trail:

 

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As he campaigns for president, Joe Biden tells a moving but false war story

“This is the God’s truth,” Biden had said as he told the story. “My word as a Biden.”

Except almost every detail in the story appears to be incorrect. Based on interviews with more than a dozen U.S. troops, their commanders and Biden campaign officials, it appears as though the former vice president has jumbled elements of at least three actual events into one story of bravery, compassion and regret that never happened.

http://www.startribune.com/as-he-campaigns-for-president-joe-biden-tells-a-moving-but-false-war-story/558812991/

 

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19 minutes ago, egghead said:

May be or may be not, but he said this, I hope he don't mean any CPC political movement :rolleyes:

 

Well in a way Sanders is correct.  China has a very large middle class that has exploded in the past 20 years. Mainly because a lot of corporations (many of them American) outsourced their manufacturing to China. They benefited immensely from all of that.

However if you asked Sanders what he thinks of the Chinese leadership, he'd say something very different. 

 

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

VP Joe Biden has always been a gaffe machine....now he is a very senile gaffe machine on the campaign trail:

Biden's a right off.  He can't string words together. Kind of like how Bush Jr stumbled on many many many words.

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Sanders has put out an amazing tweet today with the line :  "If the environment were a bank it would have been saved already."

He is 100% correct!

 

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7 minutes ago, egghead said:

I opened the topice

 

Damn what the F.  MODs  FIX this pls.  How did you manage to combine these two threads? Did you even read them?

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