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4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Ain't no Democrat Trump in 2020, they all suck dude. Not one of them has a chance against Trump.

No, there isn't a Democratic Trump. They wouldn't have person with such a plethora of character defects.

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Kimberly Klacik...my new heroine.  I'm thinking President Kim one day.

Disgusting.  It’s time Democrats denounced this behaviour instead of encouraging it.  Who are the fascists again?  

You're so predictable in stretching the definition of 'racism' to encompass every judgement made against anyone who isn't white and Christian. It's the soft liberal bigotry of low expectations all you

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Now Biden's family activities in China are coming under more scrutiny....

 

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WASHINGTON — At the time, it seemed mildly noteworthy, but not particularly unusual: then-Vice President Joe Biden, traveling to China on an official visit, had brought his son Hunter Biden along.

...In 2013, I was one of four reporters who traveled aboard Air Force Two with Biden and his son to China, a visit that was sandwiched between stops in Japan and South Korea. When we got on the plane on a bright Sunday afternoon at Joint Base Andrews, the Bidens were already on board, having just flown in from a family Thanksgiving gathering in Nantucket. Biden often took family members and especially his grandchildren on his foreign trips, so their presence didn’t raise eyebrows.

What wasn't known then was that as he accompanied his father to China, Hunter Biden was forming a Chinese private equity fund that associates said at the time was planning to raise big money, including from China. Hunter Biden has acknowledged meeting with Jonathan Li, a Chinese banker and his partner in the fund during the trip, although his spokesman says it was a social visit.

The Chinese business license that brought the new fund into existence was issued by Shanghai authorities 10 days after the trip, with Hunter Biden a member of the board.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-trip-china-son-hunter-2013-comes-under-new-n1061051

 

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22 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Yes they would.....see "Bill Clinton".

Bill Clinton was a saint compared to Trump, and as honest and virtuous as any man who ever lived.

Find one, just one redeeming character trait about Trump. I dare you.

Loyalty? Nope.

Honesty? Nope

Integrity? Nope

Bravery? LOL

Humility? ROFL

Wisdom? HAWHAWHAW!

 

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8 minutes ago, Argus said:

Bill Clinton was a saint compared to Trump, and as honest and virtuous as any man who ever lived.

Find one, just one redeeming character trait about Trump. I dare you.

Loyalty? Nope.

Honesty? Nope

Integrity? Nope

Bravery? LOL

Humility? ROFL

Wisdom? HAWHAWHAW!

 

Just win baby, SCOTUS 6-3 coming right up.

All his other faults combined are made up for by his SCOTUS picks alone, the Democrats will be paying the price for that, for decades to come.

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8 minutes ago, Argus said:

Bill Clinton was a saint compared to Trump, and as honest and virtuous as any man who ever lived.

Find one, just one redeeming character trait about Trump. I dare you.

 

Bill Clinton was a honest and virtuous saint ?    Tell us more...so we can laugh.

Trump's redeeming value is that he stopped Bill's wife from becoming president.

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Just win baby, SCOTUS 6-3 coming right up. All his other faults combined are made up for by his SCOTUS picks.

I don't think you realize that if the Republicans ever did succeed in banning abortion they would slaughtered in the next elections. I mean, so far it's been like Republican base working at 95% frenzy level to ban abortion, while moderates and Democratic base are like "Meh, you can't do anything anyway".  Also something the Republicans might take into consideration - blacks are far, far more likely to get abortions than whites.

https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Bill Clinton was a honest and virtuous saint ?  

Compared to Trump.

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump's redeeming value is that he stopped Bill's wife from becoming president.

So you can't think of one either.

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2 minutes ago, Argus said:

I don't think you realize that if the Republicans ever did succeed in banning abortion they would slaughtered in the next elections. I mean, so far it's been like Republican base working at 95% frenzy level to ban abortion, while moderates and Democratic base are like "Meh, you can't do anything anyway".  Also something the Republicans might take into consideration - blacks are far, far more likely to get abortions than whites.

https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

Overturning Roe v Wade wouldn't mean banning abortions, it would make it a states rights issue, as it should be, constitutionally speaking. It is not the doomsday for abortion rights that Democrats portray it to be.

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3 minutes ago, Argus said:

Compared to Trump.

So you can't think of one either.

 

Compared to Trump ?   So you gots nothing as well...except a throbbing cross border disdain for Trump, which counts for nothing.

Trump's stacking of the Supreme Court alone is priceless.

 

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Trump's stacking of the Supreme Court alone is priceless.

 

bush_cheney2004 knows.

He's stacking the lower courts as well, he's killing it when it comes to judicial appointments. 

The Democrats are going to be screwed for decades after Trump is done.

Mission Accomplished.

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On 10/2/2019 at 3:58 PM, Argus said:

No, there isn't a Democratic Trump. They wouldn't have person with such a plethora of character defects.

Adam Schiff? Ilhan Omar? Rashida Tlaib? Mazie Hirono? Jerry Nadler? Nancy Pelosi? Joe Biden? Bill Clinton? Hillary Clinton? Sen. Byrd the ex-klan leader and Hillary's mentor?

You couldn't swing a dead cat in Congress without hitting 5 Dems who lied about a material fact within the last ten minutes.

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On 10/3/2019 at 2:53 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump's stacking of the Supreme Court alone is priceless.

If RBG can't hang in there for at least 4 more years the Dems are hooped. 

They probably have a team of nutritionists and doctors following her around 24/7. If she sneezes they hook her up to life support. They have her robe lined with bubble wrap. 

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On 10/3/2019 at 2:47 PM, Argus said:

I don't think you realize that if the Republicans ever did succeed in banning abortion they would slaughtered in the next elections.

Banning abortions isn't first prize. Democracy is first prize.

If the Dems held the Supreme Court 6-3 they wouldn't need Congress or the Senate. They'd effectively rewrite all the laws in the country right from the bench. 

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I'm really interested in any responses. when do Trump supporters abandon Trump? he's kinda laid out currently that he's, you know, immune to investigation or indictment... so, he operates on that and he's admittedly broken federal laws. so, what exactly could he do to have a die hard Trump supporter abandon him? I think something similar to the Russian Oligarch system is his dream job. would that do it? drinking coolaid from a bucket? nothing at all, he's a god?

do tell!

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39 minutes ago, godzilla said:

I'm really interested in any responses. when do Trump supporters abandon Trump?

Never?

Look closely. Those are evangelical leaders and pastors – people who represent America's various streams of fundamentalist Christianity – venerating a president who, I think it's safe to say, reflects none of the qualities Jesus is believed to have embodied.

It has become almost banal to recite Trump's ugly, vulgar, misogynist, racist mendacity, and yet here he is in an official White House photo, an image clearly meant to invoke the Last Supper, in the midst of an ecstatic laying on of hands.

It is no exaggeration to say many evangelicals consider Trump an anointed figure; a clearly venal man somehow chosen by their God to rescue America from venality. Eighty one per cent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016 (notice the "white" caveat there – more on that in a moment).

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-neil-macdonald-trump-white-evangelicals-1.5346659

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I can see November 2020 rolling around and hearing Right-leaning Americans say. . Weeeeellll I don't like Trump but I can't vote for no socialist!!!! They're voting Red team over Blue team. And that's how he really got elected. The GOP support stood pat and the Dems support for Hillary waned. Apathy got us Trump not some populist groundswell. 

But the GOP that Trump is building is much different from the Republican party that is connected with any semblance of true Conservative principals. Trump has made it the party of Trump not the party of morals and fiscal responsibility. But I fear people will still vote Red because they'll always vote Red no matter who's in charge. 

What will get rid of Trump is that centrist and Liberals in the US will come out in droves and Small C Conservatives will stay home. 

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Trump has lost some support since he took the White House in 2016.

He was elected because his opponent did not connect with the electorate in areas of economic and social collapses, located in the Rust Belt. 

Republicans have not done well governing those States. Kentucky, whose Governor was backed by Trump, was incredibly unpopular, ineffective and a downright moron. He lost his riding despite Trump coming to the State a week before to endorse him.

In Michigan, which was a very thin line between winning and losing, I don't think the State will again vote for Trump. Nor do I think Pennsylvania will stay Red.

It all comes to a combination of factors: 1- ineffective GOP elected officials, 2- slowdown of the economy that may start next year, 3- Participation.

If the Democrats go out in droves to vote for their candidate, the Democrats will definitely win. 

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8 hours ago, godzilla said:

I'm really interested in any responses. when do Trump supporters abandon Trump? he's kinda laid out currently that he's, you know, immune to investigation or indictment... so, he operates on that and he's admittedly broken federal laws. so, what exactly could he do to have a die hard Trump supporter abandon him? I think something similar to the Russian Oligarch system is his dream job. would that do it? drinking coolaid from a bucket? nothing at all, he's a god?

do tell!

The impeachment process started on his first day in office, brought about by fake intel that Hillary got from foreign agents, which was subsequently used by the FBI used to obtain FISA warrants to spy on people connected to the Trump campaign.

Manafort was indicted for tax evasion from the mid '90's, which the FBI was already aware of, and he was offered reduced sentencing for testimony against Trump. Senior FBI officials were proven to have an extreme bias against Trump, some were fired and/or demoted for their obvious malfeasance. 

After over two years of investigations, which included coercing testimony from people who were jailed for charges that were completely unrelated to Russian collusion, the FBI had not found any evidence that Trump accepted the offers for help which came (mysteriously) from Russia. 

As soon as that fiasco was over Trump was then accused of obstructing justice, which turned out to be another farce:

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Barr said Mueller's team "thoroughly" investigated allegations that Trump's team sought to conspire with Russians or obstruct investigators. The Special Counsel "issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses," Barr wrote.

Then Trump pointed out Biden's obvious quid pro quo & his family's scams in Ukraine and China and the Dems went nuts again, trying to say that Trump's one request for Ukraine to check into Biden's obvious dirty dealings was an impeachable offence. 

The obvious facts of that whole debacle are that Biden and his family clearly made off like bandits in the countries where Biden was busy acting in his official capacity as VPOTUS, and Trump made a request for an investigation into those actual crimes. 

I've already pointed all this out in different threads here, I'm not going to go into detail for you, but you should look into this latest round of garbage for yourself to gain a greater understanding of these issues.

A much better question for you to ask godzilla, is when will Dems and their MSM start to acknowledge that the US is in far better shape under Trump than they were under Obama.

The Dow is 50% higher right now than it was when Trump got elected. Unemployment is at record lows all across the board. The US has stood up to China on trade in a big way and yet they're still exporting goods at a higher rate than ever. The Americans haven't started any new wars. Islamic state is no longer a landholder and their two senior officials were killed by US troops. There's been a record low number of US troops coming home in body bags under Trump's presidency. If you include the tax breaks ($1,000 approx) the avg American is taking home $6,000 more per year since Trump was elected three years ago. That bump was just $400 after 8 years of G. W. Bush, and $1,000 after 8 years of Obama. Iran and NoKo are in the penalty box and it's costing the US nothing. The Israeli embassy was moved to Jerusalem. The three full years of rioting, looting, arson and cop-hating that were prevalent all across America in Obama's last years (2014, 2015, and 2016) are a distant memory. The US military is spending money on research and new hardware instead of participating in the endless battles in the shithole countries of the ME. Trump has gotten NATO members to step up their contributions. 

How is the US worse off now than they were under Obama? Can you point to something specific godzilla or do you just want to post V 2.0 of that dumpster fire of baseless allegations & idiotic, partisan drivel that was the OP? 

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Never. He could shoot someone walking down fifth avenue and they still wouldn't abandon him. A joke sure, but there is actually a lot of truth in it. Those who think Trump supporters are going to abandon him are all Trump Haters engaging in wishful thinking, they want Trump supporters to abandon him, so they go looking for reasons they might do that, while ignoring all the reasons they definitely won't do that.

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2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Trump has lost some support since he took the White House in 2016.

He was elected because his opponent did not connect with the electorate in areas of economic and social collapses, located in the Rust Belt. 

Republicans have not done well governing those States. Kentucky, whose Governor was backed by Trump, was incredibly unpopular, ineffective and a downright moron. He lost his riding despite Trump coming to the State a week before to endorse him.

In Michigan, which was a very thin line between winning and losing, I don't think the State will again vote for Trump. Nor do I think Pennsylvania will stay Red.

It all comes to a combination of factors: 1- ineffective GOP elected officials, 2- slowdown of the economy that may start next year, 3- Participation.

If the Democrats go out in droves to vote for their candidate, the Democrats will definitely win. 

Trump has gained support since he was elected. All president's get an inauguration bump, it always fades. He hasn't lost support, he's gained it, his approval rating is much higher in swing states than it is nationally as well.

Democrats will only barely win with historic turnout, even if they get it, if they lose one of five key swing states, they still lose, according to Moody's. They have to run the table in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Virginia or they lose.

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5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump has gained support since he was elected. All president's get an inauguration bump, it always fades. He hasn't lost support, he's gained it, his approval rating is much higher in swing states than it is nationally as well.

 

To this point.....Obama actually lost far more support...and his Democratic party lost about 1,000 federal and state offices.

 

trump-obama-approval-ratings-infographic

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-higher-obama-1460076

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I am friends with a few in Michigan and yes, many I talk too are voting Trump 2020. I don't think anyone is abandoning him.

Here are some comments from supporters re: Minneapolis Rally:

 "We think the United States is under attack by the liberals and it’s … pushing us towards socialism."

"We are so grateful for a president like him putting the American people first. Yes, he has faults, but don’t we all?”

"They’ve been trying to impeach him from before he became president,” he said, "if this blows up in their face, which it will, they’ll try something else. They know they can’t win an election."

"I don’t agree with everything Trump does but I’m concerned with the end product and the end product is better than anything we’ve had since Ronald Reagan. There’s no doubt in my mind that Trump, despite all his shortcomings, was the right person at the right time ordained by God. I truly believe that."
 
" In the beginning I was not a Trump supporter, but as I’ve come to the rallies and learned more and seen more with my own eyes, I’ve become one,” she said. “This country is full of Trump supporters. I’m not a fan of him as a person – he’s a pig – but he doesn’t sugar-coat anything. He says what he thinks and that’s what I like."

 "The president hasn’t done anything I would say is liable to impeachment. It’s all political games."

“He was our last-ditch effort to save America from socialist Democrats and the Hillary Clinton establishment. It was like the revolutionary war, as far as I’m concerned."

Source : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/11/donald-trump-impeachment-supporters-minneapolis-rally

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