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Question, who's going to pay for it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48585037
California to be first state to provide healthcare to undocumented immigrants

California is poised to become the first US state to offer government-provided healthcare to some immigrants who are in the country illegally.

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It’s complete insanity brought to you by progressives in California.  

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2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Question, who's going to pay for it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48585037
California to be first state to provide healthcare to undocumented immigrants

California is poised to become the first US state to offer government-provided healthcare to some immigrants who are in the country illegally.

This is what everyone will get are communist programs and agendas like this one when they are stupid enough to vote for and allow their state to be taken over and become a leftist liberal/democratic communist state. Next, one might see coming from California is California wanting to give healthcare to Mexicans in Mexico to those who are waiting to get to immigrate to America. Sounds stupid but never put anything past what those California buffoon politicians in California might do.

When leftist lieberals take over ones state or province, you get nothing but stupid communist programs and agendas that no one in their right mind would ever think of let alone ask for and be implemented. Canada has become a country just like the state of California has where leftist lieberal buffoons have been allowed to run and ruin this once great western British/European nation. It's all about the rest of the non-western countries in the world with our Canadian bunch of political buffoons who are being allowed to run and ruin this once great nation into the ground. California is in one hell of a leftist liberal bloody mess where only a real and true conservative government would be able to fix and save that states problems that the commies have created in California. Otherwise leftist liberal/democrat Hollyweird and the entertainment industry will continue to destroy the old Beach Boys/Annette Funicello California days that we once knew 60 years ago. Those were the good old decent and moral days for California. Now only liberal leftist indecency and immorality and stupid communist programs run California today. I believe that in California illegals can get a drivers licence. What next will illegals get for free in California? :unsure:

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I don't get it, why they seem to care more about illegals than their own citizens..   do citizens who can't afford health insurance get free healthcare too ?

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1 hour ago, scribblet said:

I don't get it, why they seem to care more about illegals than their own citizens..   do citizens who can't afford health insurance get free healthcare too ?

They call them undocumented immigrants, not illegal immigrants.

I believe it may have something to do with the state emergency room policies. Otherwise, it don't make sense at all.

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18 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Question, who's going to pay for it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48585037
California to be first state to provide healthcare to undocumented immigrants

California is poised to become the first US state to offer government-provided healthcare to some immigrants who are in the country illegally.

Has this been offered to the current residents of California? Or do they still have to pay for it?

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12 hours ago, egghead said:

They call them undocumented immigrants, not illegal immigrants.

I believe it may have something to do with the state emergency room policies. Otherwise, it don't make sense at all.

No, Illegal immigrants is the proper term. If you are there in the US without going through the proper channels, then it is 100% illegal according to US law.  Calling them undocumented absolutely incorrect.

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14 hours ago, scribblet said:

I don't get it, why they seem to care more about illegals than their own citizens..   do citizens who can't afford health insurance get free healthcare too ?

That seems to be a trend, and a disturbing one.

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California needs more of what they've been doing.  More illegals, more crime, more gas taxes, more human feces on the streets, more trash, more heroin needles, more diseases like typhus and cholera.

 

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On 6/10/2019 at 3:53 PM, Shady said:

It’s complete insanity brought to you by progressives in California.  

I'm pretty sure most Canadians think it's insanity not to have public health care. Lol 

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On 6/11/2019 at 7:47 AM, GostHacked said:

No, Illegal immigrants is the proper term. If you are there in the US without going through the proper channels, then it is 100% illegal according to US law.  Calling them undocumented absolutely incorrect.

If they shore up your economy doing jobs others won't for cheap wages, raising families, contributing to communities ... you might be more respectful of them, as California is. 

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41 minutes ago, jacee said:

I'm pretty sure most Canadians think it's insanity not to have public health care. Lol 

I agree.  Bestowing free health care on people in the country illegally isn't the same thing.  You don't understand the difference?

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1 hour ago, Shady said:

I agree.  Bestowing free health care on people in the country illegally isn't the same thing.  You don't understand the difference?

I understand that everyone in Canada has Constitutional and human rights, so all asylum-seekers have basic health care here. 

It appears that California is extending it's healthcare for low income people to undocumented immigrants too. 

It makes sense that employers would support this. 

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21 hours ago, jacee said:

I understand that everyone in Canada has Constitutional and human rights, so all asylum-seekers have basic health care here. 

It appears that California is extending it's healthcare for low income people to undocumented immigrants too. 

It makes sense that employers would support this. 

You're very ill informed.  You need to have legal citizenship status in order to be eligible for access to our health care system.  In Ontario, it's legal status, and residency for 3 momths before you eligible for health care benefits.  Furthermore, health care isn't a human right.  Having other people care for you, and pay for your care isn't a right.  You don't have a right to other people's labour or money.  Low income people already have access to health care in the United States.  It's called Medicaide.  Also, you don't seem to understand that illegal immigrants aren't asylum seekers.  Being an asylum seeker is a legal status.  You're just so uniformed or misinformed on so much of this topic it's almost not worth discussing it.  Please read up on these topics before further comments.

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2 hours ago, Shady said:

You're very ill informed.  You need to have legal citizenship status in order to be eligible for access to our health care system.  In Ontario, it's legal status, and residency for 3 momths before you eligible for health care benefits.  Furthermore, health care isn't a human right.  Having other people care for you, and pay for your care isn't a right.  You don't have a right to other people's labour or money.  Low income people already have access to health care in the United States.  It's called Medicaide.  Also, you don't seem to understand that illegal immigrants aren't asylum seekers.  Being an asylum seeker is a legal status.  You're just so uniformed or misinformed on so much of this topic it's almost not worth discussing it.  Please read up on these topics before further comments.

Health care is a human right now, you better refresh your democratic beliefs :P

You are right; illegal immigrants (or anyone without health Insurance) need to pay their medical bills. However, I doubt we can see a penncy from them.

 

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On 6/10/2019 at 1:41 PM, QuebecOverCanada said:

Question, who's going to pay for it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48585037
California to be first state to provide healthcare to undocumented immigrants

California is poised to become the first US state to offer government-provided healthcare to some immigrants who are in the country illegally.

It's here already, am I right?

Don't we provide healthcare even to illegals?

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On 6/10/2019 at 2:46 PM, scribblet said:

I don't get it, why they seem to care more about illegals than their own citizens..   do citizens who can't afford health insurance get free healthcare too ?

Very simple to explain. The leftist liberal politicians have gone insane. They are now running the insane asylum that California has become. The politicians of California do worry more about criminal illegals than their own people. Everywhere in LA and SF tents are being set up in cities streets because there is no homes for them to live in. It is too expensive to live in California for some people. What is going on here is to flood America with more illegals and give them everything that born in California people get or are entitled too. Those insane politicians see these illegals as future voters. They want those illegals to have a right to vote in elections. Not an American citizen, no problem. How stupid is that. And here in Canada it is just as bad. The leftist liberals are now running our insane asylum. It is all due to American and Canadian immigration asylum policy where illegals can get everything free and maybe get to stay once they sneak into Canada or America illegally. Massive third world immigration into both countries will be the end of both countries. Both countries are on their way to hell. Just saying. 

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On 7/8/2019 at 1:15 PM, jacee said:

If they shore up your economy doing jobs others won't for cheap wages, raising families, contributing to communities ... you might be more respectful of them, as California is. 

Dumping millions of workers illegally into the economy, who will drag down wages and working conditions and bring the unemployment up is not something to be respectful of. I don't respect any illegal immigrant. They're not worthy of anything like that.

Dignity, of course, treat them humanely. They are humans, they must be brought back to their country dutifully without their basic needs fulfilled along their way back. But respect, they can kiss my ass. Criminals are not worthy of it.

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3 hours ago, taxme said:

Very simple to explain. The leftist liberal politicians have gone insane. They are now running the insane asylum that California has become. The politicians of California do worry more about criminal illegals than their own people. Everywhere in LA and SF tents are being set up in cities streets because there is no homes for them to live in. It is too expensive to live in California for some people. What is going on here is to flood America with more illegals and give them everything that born in California people get or are entitled too. Those insane politicians see these illegals as future voters. They want those illegals to have a right to vote in elections. Not an American citizen, no problem. How stupid is that. And here in Canada it is just as bad. The leftist liberals are now running our insane asylum. It is all due to American and Canadian immigration asylum policy where illegals can get everything free and maybe get to stay once they sneak into Canada or America illegally. Massive third world immigration into both countries will be the end of both countries. Both countries are on their way to hell. Just saying. 

Illegals are helping them right now. They are the heads count for the seats. That is why dems do not want the citizenship question in the census. Healthcare is just the Incentive. BTW,

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Blind migrant with white stick and abandoned 3-year-old boy part of a group of 200 Central Americans who turned themselves in to US Border Protection after crossing Rio Grande from Mexico into Texas

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7214565/Blind-man-hundreds-migrants-voluntarily-turned-Border-Patrol.html

 

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11 hours ago, Shady said:

...health care isn't a human right. 

It will be one day but first we have to shuck off the screaming kicking assholes bent on dragging us back to the medieval Before Times.

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15 hours ago, Shady said:

You're very ill informed.  You need to have legal citizenship status in order to be eligible for access to our health care system.  In Ontario, it's legal status, and residency for 3 momths before you eligible for health care benefits.  Furthermore, health care isn't a human right.  Having other people care for you, and pay for your care isn't a right.  You don't have a right to other people's labour or money.  Low income people already have access to health care in the United States.  It's called Medicaide.  Also, you don't seem to understand that illegal immigrants aren't asylum seekers.  Being an asylum seeker is a legal status.  You're just so uniformed or misinformed on so much of this topic it's almost not worth discussing it.  Please read up on these topics before further comments.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/help-within-canada/health-care/interim-federal-health-program/coverage-summary.html

"Refugee claimants" who are in Canada waiting a year or more to have their claim for refugee status heard, are given basic health care through a federal program similar to what welfare recipients get. 

We don't let people suffer or die in Canada without some health care services.

This isn't Trump land. 

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10 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Dumping millions of workers illegally into the economy, who will drag down wages and working conditions and bring the unemployment up is not something to be respectful of. I don't respect any illegal immigrant. They're not worthy of anything like that.

Dignity, of course, treat them humanely. They are humans, they must be brought back to their country dutifully without their basic needs fulfilled along their way back. But respect, they can kiss my ass. Criminals are not worthy of it.

All humans deserve respect.

Many Canadian families arrived here as refugees.

Fleeing as refugees does not make people criminals.

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Worried about the cost ? About $3.50 pet person per year it seems.  Nothing at all really.

Low income California citizens are covered under Medi-Cal  up to a certain level of income.

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6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Worried about the cost ? About $3.50 pet person per year it seems.  Nothing at all really.

Low income California citizens are covered under Medi-Cal  up to a certain level of income.

Great for them!

Streets littered with human excrements, needles, homeless tents everywhere, but at least they're morally superior by giving to foreigners their hard earned money, taxed heavily by the State.

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