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2 hours ago, Benz said:

As I said, there are french and english versions of it, so the number of subtitles are reduced because I agree, it gets annoying to READ a movie. Because I do understand both well, I do not need them. It's not promoting the multiculturalism politics, even if it involves 2 cultures. I am not twisting your arms. lolll Since you know a bit about Quebec and the swears and all the clichés, I thought you would like it. But there is a danger that you might develop more sympathy toward Quebec, so maybe it is better you not watch it. haha!

Have no fear, my dear. I will never have sympathy for Quebec even though I was born there. Quebec has not done a dam thing to help make Canada great. It just made Canada worse and the french have sucked and has been sucking the ROC tax dollars out of their pockets and putting those tax dollars into their pockets. The french cannot run Quebec properly but yet they have been given the keys to the rest of Canada to run also and who have pretty much destroyed this country with their liberal/socialist bull chit. Quebec pretty much runs and owns the rest of Canada. Just about every Prime Minister of Canada has come from french speaking only province of Quebec.

You are probably right, I will not be bothering to go watch that movie. No doubt the movie is all about the french guy as being a funny, loving, caring and concerned bon cop while the English cop will be seen as the bad cop. That is how things in Canada go these days. The french are always seen as being the good guy and the English will always be seen as the bad bad guy. Canada can do so much better without Quebec. The problem is that Quebec won't leave. Separatism is all just a bunch of bull chit. The french know when they have a sucker on their fishing line. The sad thing is that the English fish never seems to learn to stop trying to get the worm off the french hook.  Just my personal opinion of course. Ha-ha-ha! 

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19 hours ago, taxme said:

You are probably right, I will not be bothering to go watch that movie. No doubt the movie is all about the french guy as being a funny, loving, caring and concerned bon cop while the English cop will be seen as the bad cop. That is how things in Canada go these days. The french are always seen as being the good guy and the English will always be seen as the bad bad guy. Canada can do so much better without Quebec. The problem is that Quebec won't leave. Separatism is all just a bunch of bull chit. The french know when they have a sucker on their fishing line. The sad thing is that the English fish never seems to learn to stop trying to get the worm off the french hook.  Just my personal opinion of course. Ha-ha-ha! 

It is the opposite. The english cop looks like the good guy and the Quebec cop looks like everything that a cop should not be. But at the end, both styles are complementary. But if you ask a real policeman to comment about the Quebec cop in the movie, he would tell you that this cop is the exact opposite of what a good cop should be. It is a hollywood style movie and many films can be comparable. I am trying to think of a similar one. Maybe "The Nice Guys" made in 2016 with Ryan Gosslin and Russel Crow.  Or "48 hrs" (besides that one is a prisoner helping the cop). Despite how much you hate Quebec politics, I really think you could like that movie. ;)

Regarding your political opinion, you are just repeating yourself. You have the merit of being honest, candide and doing whatever it takes to walk into the path that leads into the direction you want. :D

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4 hours ago, Benz said:

It is the opposite. The english cop looks like the good guy and the Quebec cop looks like everything that a cop should not be. But at the end, both styles are complementary. But if you ask a real policeman to comment about the Quebec cop in the movie, he would tell you that this cop is the exact opposite of what a good cop should be. It is a hollywood style movie and many films can be comparable. I am trying to think of a similar one. Maybe "The Nice Guys" made in 2016 with Ryan Gosslin and Russel Crow.  Or "48 hrs" (besides that one is a prisoner helping the cop). Despite how much you hate Quebec politics, I really think you could like that movie. ;)

Regarding your political opinion, you are just repeating yourself. You have the merit of being honest, candide and doing whatever it takes to walk into the path that leads into the direction you want. :D

What people see watching a Hollywood movie in theaters about cops is just made up nonsense. The things they show and do does not ever really happen in real police life. Hollywood always blows up everything to get the movie goer get all excited. 

I may be repeating myself but I like to get my point across. Mentioning something one time can go nowhere. Mentioning it often enough and people may start to listen. You could say that I am some what like the lying and fake MSM or the communists. When they keep repeating themselves over and over again, say like talking about Trump all the time and how bad he is, eventually it can start to sink in to some people's heads and they may start to believe that what the media is saying is true. It tends to really work for the MSM. Just saying. 

But I still believe that Canada does not need Quebec and the ROC must exit this country called Quebec, tout suite. :D

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On 8/4/2019 at 7:10 PM, taxme said:

If you can tell me something that Quebec has given to the rest of Canada that was beneficial to the ROC  well please show me.

Campaign finance laws, just to mention one

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3 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Campaign finance laws, just to mention one

No doubt it was probably more beneficial for Quebec rather than for the rest of Canada. It was probably more beneficial for Quebec to do so too maybe try and stop anyone or any group from trying to be able to donate more money to be able to get in the way of trying to stop Quebec from separating from Canada. Quebec does not do anything unless it is for their own interest and benefit. Quebec will never do anything that will be great for the rest of Canada. On the contrary, Quebec would prefer to make life more miserable and get in the way of progress for the rest of Canada. I have come to learn over the decades that anything that Quebec is behind or is/has pushed will in the end not be all that great for the rest of Canada or Canadians.

Hey, you never know, eh? ;) 

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Just now, taxme said:

No doubt it was probably more beneficial for Quebec rather than for the rest of Canada. It was probably more beneficial for Quebec to do so too maybe try and stop anyone or any group from trying to be able to donate more money to be able to get in the way of trying to stop Quebec from separating from Canada. Quebec does not do anything unless it is for their own interest and benefit. Quebec will never do anything that will be great for the rest of Canada. On the contrary, Quebec would prefer to make life more miserable and get in the way of progress for the rest of Canada. I have come to learn over the decades that anything that Quebec is behind or is/has pushed will in the end not be all that great for the rest of Canada or Canadians.

Hey, you

So you don't like campaign finance restrictions? 

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1 minute ago, SkyHigh said:

So you don't like campaign finance restrictions? 

A tough call for me on that one. It may look like a good idea, or it may not be such a good idea. It does look like a good idea at this time, but is it really? In realty, even though we have these finance restriction laws in place they can, like everything else in politics, be easily misused and manipulated behind some closed back door room deals to still be able to get someone else or some group on my behalf to be able to manipulate the system by getting that someone or some group to donate more money for me to my cause on my behalf. I may be limited to what I can donate, but I can always still get a couple of dozen good friends of mine to donate for me more of my money to my cause on my behalf, if you get my drift here? 

A win-win for me, and my cause. Yes/no?    

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

A tough call for me on that one. It may look like a good idea, or it may not be such a good idea. It does look like a good idea at this time, but is it really? In realty, even though we have these finance restriction laws in place they can, like everything else in politics, be easily misused and manipulated behind some closed back door room deals to still be able to get someone else or some group on my behalf to be able to manipulate the system by getting that someone or some group to donate more money for me to my cause on my behalf. I may be limited to what I can donate, but I can always still get a couple of dozen good friends of mine to donate for me more of my money to my cause on my behalf, if you get my drift here? 

A win-win for me, and my cause. Yes/no?    

No corporate donations, individuals capped at 100$, these are laws brought about by a Quebec( separatist) provincial gov't . If you're reduced to arguing potential loop holes, it means you fundamentally agree with the policy. Therefore disproving your contention that nothing that benefited Canada as a whole

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12 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

No corporate donations, individuals capped at 100$, these are laws brought about by a Quebec( separatist) provincial gov't . If you're reduced to arguing potential loop holes, it means you fundamentally agree with the policy. Therefore disproving your contention that nothing that benefited Canada as a whole

Obviously, you have not been around in this world all that much if you think that any laws created in Canada cannot be misused and manipulated in some way. As far as I know, individuals are capped at donating $1500 to any political party or too all of the party associations. As I said already?  I can donate the $1500 and get a bunch of friends to do the same on my behalf. I have now misused and manipulated the system. Get it now? Laws will never stop trying anyone from trying to misuse and manipulate the system. It is done all the time. Just don't get caught. We all live in a crooked and corrupt political system, and if you have not figured that one out yet, then what more can be said to you.

Do you still believe in Santa Claus by chance.  ;)

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25 minutes ago, taxme said:

Obviously, you have not been around in this world all that much if you think that any laws created in Canada cannot be misused and manipulated in some way. As far as I know, individuals are capped at donating $1500 to any political party or too all of the party associations. As I said already?  I can donate the $1500 and get a bunch of friends to do the same on my behalf. I have now misused and manipulated the system. Get it now? Laws will never stop trying anyone from trying to misuse and manipulate the system. It is done all the time. Just don't get caught. We all live in a crooked and corrupt political system, and if you have not figured that one out yet, then what more can be said to you.

Do you still believe in Santa Claus by chance.  ;)

Unlike you I will not resort to adhomenims.

When did i even suggest that laws can't be manipulated?

You asked for an example of something that came from Quebec that benefited the ROC (terrible expression by the way), and I gave you campaign finance. 

Being unable to debate the actual policy ,you resorted to finding potential loopholes, and that is a passive admission that you agree with the law but chose to continue with  your bad faith demagoguery 

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21 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

Unlike you I will not resort to adhomenims.

When did i even suggest that laws can't be manipulated?

You asked for an example of something that came from Quebec that benefited the ROC (terrible expression by the way), and I gave you campaign finance. 

Being unable to debate the actual policy ,you resorted to finding potential loopholes, and that is a passive admission that you agree with the law but chose to continue with  your bad faith demagoguery 

1. Good for you. 

2. I only suggested to you that laws can be manipulated. That was it. 

3. I expressed my opinion, and I gave you a reason as to why Quebec may have done so. I just do not read something and take it as fact, and leave it at that, and that all is well with those facts. I check out all angles, and I look for hidden reasons or words. I do not have a problem with questioning or challenging anything. Do you have a problem with it? I am just not your typical politically correct, naive, and apathetic Canadian who just takes everything for granted that everything implemented by the government as law is all on the up and up. If you have a problem with that, well too bad for you. 

4. I have been debating with the "actual policy" of this post. Have you not been paying attention? Sometimes drifting off the topic does happen now and then. Many court cases have been won by lawyers who found loopholes in some law. Potential loopholes are everywhere in laws that have been created by the government. I have no problem trying to find loopholes in government laws or rules and regulations. Lawyers look for loopholes all the time. As I said too you already. I am up in the air on the finance law as to whether it is good or bad. Everyone somewhere in their lives have committed demagoguery. Are you going to try and tell me that you are and always have been sweet as sugar and have never committed a bit of "demagoguery" yourself in your life? Just asking. ;)

 

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3 minutes ago, taxme said:

I expressed my opinion, and I gave you a reason as to why Quebec may have done so.

Really? You consider this a reason

 

23 hours ago, taxme said:

No doubt it was probably more beneficial for Quebec rather than for the rest of Canada. It was probably more beneficial for Quebec to do so

That's opinion, any evidence to back that claim up?

 

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

Potential loopholes are everywhere in laws that have been created by the government. I have no problem trying to find loopholes in government laws or rules and regulations. Lawyers look for loopholes all the time

Again potential loop holes have nothing to do with the validity of law.

Either you agree with campaign finance laws( which disproves your original post) or you think we should be like the states and adopt our own version of citizens United. Which is it?

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Poor Quebec....didn't want any more pipelines.    Hard to dry wet grain/corn without lots of propane.

 

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About 92 per cent of Canada’s propane is extracted from natural gas plants in Alberta, British Columbia and Saskatchewan. With no pipelines to carry the fuel into Quebec, the province is particularly reliant on rail transportation from supply hubs in the Prairies and in Sarnia, Ont., said Nathalie St-Pierre, chief executive of the Canadian Propane Association.

https://business.financialpost.com/transportation/rail/quebec-running-out-of-propane-as-cn-strike-chokes-off-supply

 

 

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