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56 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Believe what you like, I don't care, I simply give my view of it, you're welcome to take it or leave it, I have no desire to prove anything outside of a court of law.

A messageboard should be a debate platform. If you think it's just a place to present an opinion and not be challenged, we have a fundamentally different view of forums like this. 

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2 minutes ago, Boges said:

A messageboard should be a debate platform. If you think it's just a place to present an opinion and not be challenged, we have a fundamentally different view of forums like this. 

I publish my views to the internet by the terms and conditions in allowance of the moderator, there is no requirement for me to prove my view of things.

In terms of those who demand that something be cited from the internet as supposed proof of something, I find that to be a fool's errand.

I do not believe for an instant that you argue in good faith, and on forums like this, soon as anything is cited, either the source is attacked as invalid, or the goal post are shifted.

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9 minutes ago, Boges said:

So the fact that almost every CMA noted in that list include communities that aren't classified as Large Urban is a "fly-speck" to you. It kind of speaks to your theory that two thirds of the province are shitholes.  

You can argue about the classification until the sun don't shine. Who cares. What is the point I am saying? Ever ask yourself this?
Those are the suburban areas where urbanites moved to. They are the fringes of the tumourous growth. Those who live there are city-slickers only temporarily displaced.

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Just now, OftenWrong said:

Those are the suburban areas where urbanites moved to. They are the fringes of the tumourous growth. Those who live there are city-slickers only temporarily displaced.

So your opinion is that only places that don't experience growth are worth living in? 

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Newfoundland should get back out of Confederation, Confederation has been nothing but misery for Newfoundland.

Canada basically strip mined Newfoundland and rendered them into cheap labour to be exploited by the entrenched interests.

12.4% unemployment is the wages of Canadian Confederation, there's no need for Newfoundlanders to be poor for the purposes of Toronto bribing Quebec with stolen money.

Made no sense for Newfoundland to subjugate itself to Ottawa in 1949, makes even less sense now.

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27 minutes ago, Boges said:

So your opinion is that only places that don't experience growth are worth living in? 

No it's about shades of things. You progressives have taken us to the brink of our own extermination. Look out there and see what we've done... now that is fucking progress.

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The Progressives are like parasites skimming off everyone to funnel money to Quebec.

For example Newfoundland is not poor, the per capita GDP is $62,000.

But the average wage is only $50,000

Where does the 25% that is missing go?

Answer; Quebec.

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24 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

B’y, does ya fish wid dat? 

Ya mon, they got an app. Now go have some more screech, ya newf

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Population of Canadian CMA's:

1. Toronto 6,341,900

2. Montreal 4,255,500

3. Vancouver 2,650,000

4. Calgary 1,486,100

5. Edmonton 1,420,900

6. Ottawa-Gatineau 1,414,900

7. Winnipeg 832,200

8. Quebec 817,400

9. Hamilton 786,600

10. Kitchener-Waterloo 567,700

 

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4 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

If you like the smell of piss and shit everywhere, then yes. Yes it is.

Nah. As long as you stay off parliament hill the smell isn't a problem.

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1 hour ago, Rolfs said:

Population of Canadian CMA's:

1. Toronto 6,341,900

2. Montreal 4,255,500

3. Vancouver 2,650,000

4. Calgary 1,486,100

5. Edmonton 1,420,900

6. Ottawa-Gatineau 1,414,900

7. Winnipeg 832,200

8. Quebec 817,400

9. Hamilton 786,600

10. Kitchener-Waterloo 567,700

 

All Shitholes. :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Newfoundland should get back out of Confederation, Confederation has been nothing but misery for Newfoundland.

Canada basically strip mined Newfoundland and rendered them into cheap labour to be exploited by the entrenched interests.

12.4% unemployment is the wages of Canadian Confederation, there's no need for Newfoundlanders to be poor for the purposes of Toronto bribing Quebec with stolen money.

Made no sense for Newfoundland to subjugate itself to Ottawa in 1949, makes even less sense now.

Newfoundland has been the single largest recipient of transfer payments per capita until its small oil boom.  At least the impoverished have had the freedom of migration in Confederation to come to places like Ft. McMurray and Ontario for jobs.  They would have it harder without Confederation.  

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Newfoundland has been the single largest recipient of transfer payments per capita until its small oil boom.  At least the impoverished have had the freedom of migration in Confederation to come to places like Ft. McMurray and Ontario for jobs.  They would have it harder without Confederation.  

And to get EI for the 6 months of the year they don't have a seasonal job. 

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Just now, Zeitgeist said:

Newfoundland has been the single largest recipient of transfer payments per capita until its small oil boom.  At least the impoverished have had the freedom of migration in Confederation to come to places like Ft. McMurray and Ontario for jobs.  They would have it harder without Confederation.  

Who wants to live in a hell hole like Fort Mac?  The privilege of paying astronomical rents and work round the clock just to pay off said rent, in dirty old Alberta.

 

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My Uncle from Hants County came to visit me in Toronto.  Once.

Never set foot in it ever again. 

Pretty sure he'd rather die than live in dirty ol' Toronto.

 

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So you see?  

The "promise" of Confederation?

You can be down home on the dole, dependent on the Liberal Party of Canada handouts,  or you can live in dirty ol' Toronto, or dirty ol' Fort Mac?

Great  deal, suckahs.

What was the point of joining, if it all it meant was that they would put you on your knees, to force you to leave home to be disposable labor for the elites on Bay Street?

I think I'd rather just run my own affairs, see if I could do better than the Liberal Party of Canada Socialist Progressives who run the economy into the dirt.

Bear in mind what is at the end of their road of policy stimulus deflation; that's the stuff Depressions are made of.

The moribund economy can be stimulated no more, wage and price deflation, Fort Mac goes, Toronto goes, what have you got left?

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6 hours ago, Boges said:

Ottawa is also considered one of the best communities in Canada to live. 

All is very relative.  Depends on what you are trying to find and what makes up your own "quality of life".

I go through 2 traffic lights between my job and my home (mind you my job is on the other side of town :D )   Distance traveled ; 3km; time one way 7 minutes.  After work I can go mushroom picking (king boletus, pines, chantrelles) or I go salmon fishing, or trout fishing, or hiking, or picking blue berries.  In spring I can always find bears and take pictures.  Wintertime I do great fishing in the snow.  My mortgage is about 20% of my income, so not too stressed over that (although I know I have been screwed like just about everyone else).

What I do not have is social entertainment ; topless bottomless kind of stuff; opportunities for exotic travels, opportunities to feel someone, but overall I am convinced my life is better than the average life in Ontario.  So you guys there can have it all ; I am not going to take your space.

Two pictures from my backyard to show you my terrible quality of life.  (the actual "quality" is in having the physical abilities to go up there, when many Ontarians in their teens and 20s will remain on the bottom)

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Seen one mountain seen them all, I'm happy with the view from my deck, woods and streams and rolling hills, which is also five minutes from Costco, the liquor store and even a pretty nice mall.

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2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Seen one mountain seen them all

Wrong again my friend.  They are all different.   Only the Costco and the Liquor stores and their contents are the same across Canada.

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3 minutes ago, cougar said:

Wrong again my friend.  They are all different.   Only the Costco and the Liquor stores and their contents are the same across Canada.

Ontario has it all, nice view from my deck, drop down to the patio underneath for private backyard, all the conveniences of Amurica, just five minutes away.

The front of my house is in the city, the back of my house is in the country, best of both worlds.

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Just now, Dougie93 said:

Ontario has it all, nice view from my deck, drop down to the patio underneath for private backyard, all the conveniences of Amurica, just five minutes away.

The front of my house is in the city, the back of my house is in the country, best of both worlds.

I will not dispute that.  I had my own special places in Ontario while I was there.  

But it was not for me.   I need more space, more wilderness to explore, higher elevations, more wildlife, less people.   This is my kind of freedom.

 

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Just now, cougar said:

I will not dispute that.  I had my own special places in Ontario while I was there.  

But it was not for me.   I need more space, more wilderness to explore, higher elevations, more wildlife, less people.   This is my kind of freedom.

Fair enough.  I got my fill of climbing in the infantry, including the Complex Terrain and Ski-Mountaineering Course, but I'm getting old now, so I'm treating myself to some conveniences for a change. 

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