NDP vs Liberals, which one is going to out-left the other?

[QuebecOverCanada 215]

The Liberals won... barely.

Lost the popular vote, but even worse, had a minus 6% drop in popular vote compared to last election. The NDP didn't fare better, as they lost 3% of the popular vote compared to 2015.

Now the Liberals, with 157 MPs, will not work with the Bloc Québécois often, and thus will need the support of another progressive party, the waivering NDP to pass laws and budgets. It means that the NDP may now bargain for a more left wing program every time the Liberals advance something in the House of Commons. 

I'm a bit worried about living in a Socialist-Lite Country, but this is what voters voted for. And it may not last very long anyway. 

[Yzermandius19 197]

22 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

I'm a bit worried about living in a Socialist-Lite Country, but this is what voters voted for. And it may not last very long anyway. 

You've been living in a Communist-Lite Country for a long time, you should be used to it by now.

[scribblet 1,441]

Trudeau believes he has a 'clear mandate' so we know how that will go, the question is how much will the NDP and Bloc go along with?

Meanwhile in Alberta, layoffs continue.

 

[Goddess 956]

1 hour ago, scribblet said:

 

Meanwhile in Alberta, layoffs continue.

 

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/husky-energy-layoffs-underway-in-downtown-calgary-1.4650072

 

Husky oil already announced layoffs.

[Cannucklehead 24]

Yeah those layoffs are thanks to Kenney, not Trudeau.  

 

 

[Dougie93 409]

Lazy culture of dependence socialist Canada gets the moribund economy it votes for, can't save self defeating self deluding  Canadians from themselves.

[ironstone 52]

22 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Yeah those layoffs are thanks to Kenney, not Trudeau.  

 

 

How do you figure that?

We all know that Trudeau will go to any length to protect and promote Quebec jobs, but what has he done to help Alberta?

[BubberMiley 203]

14 minutes ago, ironstone said:

How do you figure that?

We all know that Trudeau will go to any length to protect and promote Quebec jobs, but what has he done to help Alberta?

Bought them a pipeline?

[Dougie93 409]

1 minute ago, BubberMiley said:

Bought them a pipeline?

That's not what he did.   What he did was bail the private investors out as they wanted to flee dysfunctional Canada with their money back.

[BubberMiley 203]

12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

That's not what he did.   What he did was bail the private investors out as they wanted to flee dysfunctional Canada with their money back.

By buying their pipeline ...so Alberta would quit whining. But they kept whining anyway.

[Cannucklehead 24]

Alberta Energy critic Irfan Sabir issued a statement Tuesday afternoon, pinning the blame on Premier Jason Kenney and a reduction to the corporate tax rate.

“The Albertans who came to work today at Husky Energy only to be handed a layoff notice know that Jason Kenney’s corporate handout has failed them," it read. 

"Husky made $233 million from the corporate handout, but not a single dollar has gone toward job creation. Even before this bad news, Alberta lost 15,000 oil and gas jobs on Kenney’s watch. He has nothing to offer these energy professionals beyond more finger-pointing and giveaways for corporate shareholders.”

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/mobile/kenney-announces-drop-in-business-tax-rate-bill-to-eliminate-carbon-tax-1.4420262

 

Yeah that's all Trudeaus fault.  Next you'll blame him that it's been getting colder here lately?  

[Dougie93 409]

1 minute ago, BubberMiley said:

By buying their pipeline ...

There's no pipeline.   Nothing has been built.   All the Canadian taxpayer has done is bail out the investors.

Reason being that if they took a bath, even more investment would be fleeing Canada than there is already.

[bush_cheney2004 2,809]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

There's no pipeline.   Nothing has been built.   All the Canadian taxpayer has done is bail out the investors.

Reason being that if they took a bath, even more investment would be fleeing Canada than there is already.

 

Right...Kinder Morgan owned the pipeline and sold it to Trudeau, while laughing all the way to the bank.   The original pipeline was built by Bechtel Canada and Standard Oil...both American.   Foreign capital giveth...and foreign capital taketh away.

Canada has lost the means...and will...to build such pipelines.

[Dougie93 409]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada has lost the means...and will...to build such pipelines.

What does Canada actually have the means and will to do now? 

I can't think of anything,  Canada is paralyzed for all intents and purposes, the federal government is feeble.

[bush_cheney2004 2,809]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

What does Canada actually have the means and will to do now? 

I can't think of anything,  Canada is paralyzed for all intents and purposes, the federal government is feeble.

 

Oh....Canada can still build pipelines....in the United States !

Domestic leadership and resolve is now permanently hobbled...even more will not get done.

This pleases the left...I guess.

[Dougie93 409]

It seems like the paralysis and self destruction which has crippled DND for decades has now spread to the entire government.

Everything is being run as badly and corruptly has the defence department naow.

 

[bush_cheney2004 2,809]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

It seems like the paralysis and self destruction which has crippled DND for decades has now spread to the entire government.

Everything is being run as badly and corruptly has the defence department naow.

 

 

 

Pretty much....Canadian corps have no hesitation when it comes to building pipelines and mines in other countries, complete with "environmental" destruction and thorough hosing of the locals.    But back home, it's a tough slog.   SNC Lavalin now has more operations outside of Canada.

"POST....NATIONAL...STATE"

 

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Canada is not a country.

Scott Gilmore: If our rag tag federation can’t build pipelines, move beer or find some common bonds, we may have a fatal problem

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/canada-is-not-a-country/

 

[Dougie93 409]

Bwahahahaha!   Macleans has been reading my posts!

 

[Cannucklehead 24]

Lol trump supporter talking about environmental destruction with an article from a year ago.  How's the environmental lawsuit over the wall going?  

 

Pipeline construction has recommenced and target completion is 2 years.  

 

Wooooo. 

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[Dougie93 409]

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We have had a couple of brushes with dissolution, but survived and the future looks good. Until the day when suddenly it doesn’t.One lesson that the last 20 years has reinforced is that there are far more black swan moments, completely unanticipated game-changing events, out there than we realize. It is almost inevitable that this country is one day going to face some unexpected shock. It could be the rise of another charismatic, iconoclastic, regional politician who points to Ottawa as the source of all that is wrong. It could be an economic crisis that dramatically pits one region against another. Perhaps it might even be a technological advance that changes our culture in ways we cannot even imagine now.

The economic crisis will be the debt bomb exploding, the technological advance is the Information Age.

Gilmore nails it. 

Canada delenda est, it's baked into the cake now.

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[Yzermandius19 197]

20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The economic crisis will be the debt bomb exploding, the technological advance is the Information Age.

Gilmour nails it. 

Why didn't I think of that? 

Oh wait, I did,

Yeah he's been reading your posts, only he missed the part about washing your hands of Canada and admitting the shotgun marriage can't work and has never worked. He thinks it would be best if this shotgun marriage can somehow be saved and strengthened, but otherwise we're on the same page with Gilmour.

Edited October 23 by Yzermandius19

[jacee 309]

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

We all know that Trudeau will go to any length to protect and promote Quebec jobs, but what has he done to help Alberta?

It's a valid question, but I'd rephrase it: What will this new Parliament do to help transition  Alberta oil workers? 

Best answer: Move 30% of subsidies from fossil fuels to renewables and energy retrofitting, and transitioning oil workers to those new jobs. 

Edited October 23 by jacee

[Dougie93 409]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Yeah he's been reading your posts, only he missed the part about washing your hands of Canada, and he thinks it would be best if this shotgun marriage can somehow be saved.

I only wash my hands of Canada because I refuse to submit to speech banning, gun grabbing, America derangement syndrome totalitarianism.

Americans are the only people Canadians find it acceptable to hate, and I can't hate my own kin.

It was actually Justin Trudeau who convinced that the Americans were right and Canada was indeed a fake country.  Post National State was the nail in the coffin.

Clearly Gilmore is meaning it to be a lament, but once you divest yourself of an emotional adherence to Canada, saving Canada no longer makes sense.

 

[Dougie93 409]

The emptiness at the heart of Canadian elections

Scott Gilmore: People demand things we don’t need, from politicians who make promises they can’t keep, by spending money we don’t have

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-emptiness-at-the-heart-of-canadian-elections/

[Yzermandius19 197]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The emptiness at the heart of Canadian elections

Scott Gilmore: People demand things we don’t need, from politicians who make promises they can’t keep, by spending money we don’t have

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-emptiness-at-the-heart-of-canadian-elections/

It's like he's copying and pasting your posts and just rephrasing them slightly. He barely has to do any work and gets to sound super insightful, if that's what he's doing.

Edited October 23 by Yzermandius19