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2 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

One must crawl before they walk, if you can't master basic algebra, you lack the necessary tools to " come up with proposals to save failing companies"

If you read my original post you would see I completely agreed that we should be teaching real world situations in school.

You have yet to justify your statement that teaching math is anti conservative

Because Algebra and Calculus keeps students ignorant of real-world numbers. When they waste students time with fairy-tale math, they don't learn why it's bad for the government to overspend. They just assume they're enough rich people to pay for their entitlements.

If they canceled Algebra and Calculus, and actually made personal finance mandatory, we would have more conservative voters. The establishment knows this, that's why they aren't in a rush to modernize our educational system.

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Personally I want him gone. He has failed to make any kind of connection with Canadians. Despite Trudeau having a very low approval rating, despite his lies and ridiculous screwups with costumes, desp

People go off topic all the time. It's just the evolution of conversation. If you close every thread that drifts, no one will want to come here anymore.

You can't ask a brown man to leave! That's racist!

4 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Because Algebra and Calculus keeps students ignorant of real-world numbers. When they waste students time with fairy-tale math, they don't learn why it's bad for the government to overspend. They just assume they're enough rich people to pay for their entitlements.

If they canceled Algebra and Calculus, and actually made personal finance mandatory, we would have more conservative voters. The establishment knows this, that's why they aren't in a rush to modernize our educational system.

Ignorant? Algebra teaches you order of operations, again a necessary tool in almost every aspect of life, calculus is simply to introduce your mind to the scientific method of analysis. Without these basic skills it is much more difficult to be a productive member of society.

Got to say though, if you think giving teenagers the ability to use their minds with efficiency will turn them away from whatever your concept of conservatism is, it doesn't bode well for your ideology

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On 11/6/2019 at 11:48 AM, SkyHigh said:

 you have no actual political philosophy and simply enjoy trying to get under people's skin

Whichever one it is , this is obviously not an attempt at a good faith argument

My political philosophy is; God, Queen, Country, Regiment, Corps, Commander-in-Chief,  for the purposes of state sanctioned mass murder on behalf of the British Crown

Ducimus

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1 hour ago, PPC2019 said:

So you're argument is that making students do complex equations is good for brain development. Well Algebra and Calculus is too outdated and abstract. Why not have students solve case studies in finance and come up with proposals to save failing companies? Why not ask students work with real-world numbers, and isolate inefficiencies in business, so they can learn solve real-world problems?

By making students learn abstract math, they have no real-world understanding of how money works.

It would appear as though our children in school today are learning more about such crazy stupid leftist liberal programs and agendas like gay/trans rights, multiculturalism, and climate change, and that Trump is a very bad man rather than being taught something that they will really need to learn and know about when they go out into the working world. Their new boss is not going to be concerned about what their views are on gay rights or climate change. My grand kids hate Trump. What the hell do they know about politics or Trump at their age, and why would they care about politics or Trump at all at their age? What are our radical leftist liberal teachers teaching our kids in schools these days. How to become good little radical leftist liberal socialists and SJW's? Our education system today is a farce, and now it would appear as though our education system is only being used to try and brainwash our children into how to become good little socialist zombies. They need to be taught more about the real working world, and to how the money financial system works, not trans rights. Just saying. 

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22 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

No idea what this incoherent rant has to do with my post (or reality for that matter), but if you  say something intelligible or at least comprehensible, I'd be happy to respond

There is no incoherent ranting going on here. Well, maybe just your rants? What is going on here is just simple and easy reality debating going on here. Just because you cannot get as to what is being said here, does not mean that it is "unintelligent" or "incomprehensible" and just a bit too hard for you to understand. Maybe you have a reading problem, and find trying to get the drift as to what he being said by me and others here is difficult for you. Just wondering about that. :)

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16 minutes ago, taxme said:

It would appear as though our children in school today are learning more about such crazy stupid leftist liberal programs and agendas like gay/trans rights, multiculturalism, and climate change, and that Trump is a very bad man rather than being taught something that they will really need to learn and know about when they go out into the working world. Their new boss is not going to be concerned about what their views are on gay rights or climate change. My grand kids hate Trump. What the hell do they know about politics or Trump at their age, and why would they care about politics or Trump at all at their age? What are our radical leftist liberal teachers teaching our kids in schools these days. How to become good little radical leftist liberal socialists and SJW's? Our education system today is a farce, and now it would appear as though our education system is only being used to try and brainwash our children into how to become good little socialist zombies. They need to be taught more about the real working world, and to how the money financial system works, not trans rights. Just saying. 

Again with the off topic, incoherent, partisan rant.

Im advocating for math, do you consider math liberal? Is 2+2 not 4 in your suposed conservative ideology?

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10 minutes ago, taxme said:

There is no incoherent ranting going on here. Well, maybe just your rants? What is going on here is just simple and easy reality debating going on here. Just because you cannot get as to what is being said here, does not mean that it is "unintelligent" or "incomprehensible" and just a bit too hard for you to understand. Maybe you have a reading problem, and find trying to get the drift as to what he being said by me and others here is difficult for you. Just wondering about that. :)

The issue being debated is the comparison between the PRC and our parliamentary system.

But, please explain what a "conservative rebellion", the CP , Bernier or any of the other obviously partisan "points" you made a germane to this topic.

If all you're able to present is adhomenim bad faith arguments I see no need to continue this fruitless conversation

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Just now, SkyHigh said:

Again with the off topic, incoherent, partisan rant.

Im advocating for math, do you consider math liberal? Is 2+2 not 4 in your suposed conservative ideology?

Well, you appear right now to want to keep going off topic, and prefer to want to continue to rant on just as much as I like to do? But anyway, what has math got to do with the topic about "Scheer needs to go"? Maybe you can explain this one to me? 

It certainly looks like the leftist liberal education system that is being taught to our children in schools in Canada today is trying to teach them that 2+2 equals 22. As I said already, how is learning all about gay/trans rights, multiculturalism, and climate change, as examples of leftism talk, going to hep the children do well in the working world and make lots of money when they grow up and leave school?

I wonder what Scheer would do to try and change this crazy leftist liberal education system that is being forced on our children of today? My grandchildren do not need to learn or know anything about Trump, but what they do need to learn more about is this disasterous prime mistake of Canada who is trying to lead them down the leftist liberal highway to disaster. Just saying. 

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Just now, SkyHigh said:

Not sure what you're trying to say, though i think thats intentional on your part, but please prove me wrong

You said it was not an intelligent thing to do to serve Canada for the purposes of war, I agreed with you, as Canada is treasonous against its own troops, I added.

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20 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Again with the off topic, incoherent, partisan rant.

Im advocating for math, do you consider math liberal? Is 2+2 not 4 in your suposed conservative ideology?

Get back to the topic about Scheer. I have had enough of your math ranting. :D

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4 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, you appear right now to want to keep going off topic, and prefer to want to continue to rant on just as much as I like to do? But anyway, what has math got to do with the topic about "Scheer needs to go"? Maybe you can explain this one to me? 

It certainly looks like the leftist liberal education system that is being taught to our children in schools in Canada today is trying to teach them that 2+2 equals 22. As I said already, how is learning all about gay/trans rights, multiculturalism, and climate change, as examples of leftism talk, going to hep the children do well in the working world and make lots of money when they grow up and leave school?

I wonder what Scheer would do to try and change this crazy leftist liberal education system that is being forced on our children of today? My grandchildren do not need to learn or know anything about Trump, but what they do need to learn more about is this disasterous prime mistake of Canada who is trying to lead them down the leftist liberal highway to disaster. Just saying. 

Ok last attempt at rational conversation.

I responded directly to you stating that math was inherently anti conservative, still waiting on why

Continuing to go on about the mean nasty liberals( especially when ive offered zero political preference, you have no idea how i vote) multiculturalism, Trump etc...just proves you see everything through a partisan lens and are either unwilling or unable to take an objective view

Again i have no interest in a bad faith partisan conversation

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7 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

The issue being debated is the comparison between the PRC and our parliamentary system.

But, please explain what a "conservative rebellion", the CP , Bernier or any of the other obviously partisan "points" you made a germane to this topic.

If all you're able to present is adhomenim bad faith arguments I see no need to continue this fruitless conversation

1. No? The topic created here was all about Scheer, and not about the PRC. If you want to debate about our parliamentary system and the PRC, then start a new thread for it. 

2.But why do you keep bringing things up like math that has nothing to do with the main topic at hand here? What Canada does need though is a real and true conservative rebellion to try and get rid of this prime mistake of Canada and his elite liberal globalist ilk who has done not a dam thing for Canada except too flood Canada with hundreds of millions of unneeded, and unnecessary, and unwanted new immigrants. 

3. GOODBYE. ;)

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17 minutes ago, taxme said:

Get back to the topic about Scheer. I have had enough of your math ranting. :D

He's trying to make it sound like conservatives hate math, but conservatives care about numbers more than liberals. That's why we don't want the wrong kind of math tough to students.

If you give them complex equations to solve, how are they ever going to figure out how to run a business? If we got back to 2 + 2 is 4, we wouldn't have a problem, but they stop teaching that math in grade 7. Now they have students trying to figure out how "X represents Y".

If they actually taught Finance in grade 7 instead of Algebra, by the time the students reached 18, most of them would be voting conservative.

Algebra produces a bunch of economically illiterate morons who elect fools like Justin Trudeau.

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12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

You said it was not an intelligent thing to do to serve Canada for the purposes of war, I agreed with you, as Canada is treasonous against its own troops, I added.

 

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

You said it was not an intelligent thing to do to serve Canada for the purposes of war, I agreed with you, as Canada is treasonous against its own troops, I added.

Though we are more a peacekeeping nation I agree we shouldn't embark on any imperialist ordered wars.

My first response was just a play on the latin you used at the end

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3 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

 

Though we are more a peacekeeping nation I agree we shouldn't embark on any imperialist ordered wars.

My first response was just a play on the latin you used at the end

I don't like the word "Peacekeeping". We let our American allies dye in vain, and we get to call ourselves the peacekeepers? War is dirty, so I don't appreciate the politically correct label.

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9 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Ok last attempt at rational conversation.

I responded directly to you stating that math was inherently anti conservative, still waiting on why

Continuing to go on about the mean nasty liberals( especially when ive offered zero political preference, you have no idea how i vote) multiculturalism, Trump etc...just proves you see everything through a partisan lens and are either unwilling or unable to take an objective view

Again i have no interest in a bad faith partisan conversation

1. Last time is right.

2. So where did I state that I thought math was inherently anti-conservative? Can you point this out verbatim to me, thank you. 

3. Liberals are a mean bunch of intolerant and bigoted fascists. Aren't we all just a little bit partisan at times? You had better ask liberals as to why they are unwilling or unable to stop their attacks on anyone who has a different opinion and points of view and who do not want to go along with their leftist liberal programs and agendas. 

Why don't you just admit that you have a problem with other people's opinions, and get it over with? Who is being partisan here anyway? you?   

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4 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

I don't like the word "Peacekeeping". We let our American allies dye in vain, and we get to call ourselves the peacekeepers? War is dirty, so I don't appreciate the politically correct label.

Plenty of guys died while Peacekeeping, Peacekeeping is just a Canadian euphemism for quagmire.

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2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Plenty of guys died while Peacekeeping, Peacekeeping is just a Canadian euphemism for quagmire.

My dad's friend has a son who went to Afghanistan, all the time he bragged about how his son was there for peacekeeping. They trashed talked the Americans, yet their son went to Texas for training, because we don't have adequate training facilities in Canada.

I just get sick and tired of the political correctness. It's like Canada has to be be a bunch of snobs, and fight beside our American allies, while claiming they're the morally superior "peacekeepers".

Oh no Canada can't help allies in war, without pretending to be innocent peacekeepers. It's such a joke.

 

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