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35 minutes ago, Tdot said:

Okay, I can respect that.  

Then since there would no relationships without procreating and there would be no life with procreating; what priority, can 'procreating' be fairly assigned?  

That would be up to individual couples, I imagine.

There are lots of infertile couples who cannot have children - just like homosexual couples, they can choose to adopt if procreating is a priority for them.

I'm finished childbearing.  A relationship without procreating is a priority for me.

Life isn't "one size fits all".  Judging homosexuality only on the ability to procreate is......archaic.  And discriminatory.  Lots of relationships do not involve procreation.

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On 11/15/2019 at 7:20 PM, PPC2019 said:

I think everyone is born to be Asexual, with a tendency to become hetrosexual over time.

Because hetrosexuality is nurture. When I was 12, I never knew what the big deal was about women on baywatch. I asked a guy at a bonfire... Why everyone watches baywatch... And he was like trust me, when you get a little older. You'll understand.

Guys would start sharing their stories about dating women, and I came to understand the love for women.

Now if you take a 13 year old kid, and he has a bad experiences with a few girls, he might look to guys for confort.

When you have the schools saying, you should feel proud to be gay... They might start making out with their best friend.... and think what's the big deal.

 

If we got 12 year kids going on non-sexual dates. Just hanging around girls... Maybe their first kiss or whatever... maybe the guy would become the awkward kid in the closet.

So I think homosexuality is programed into people at a young age.

I've talked to a few homosexuality guys I met at parties... and they will admit they check girls out. They just have to keep themselves pure.

 

In the old days if your kid was learning homosexual.... you would correct that immediately, but now parents are brainwashed.... into believeing that's bigotry.

Parents have to be careful.If they encouage hetrosexuality... for their underage kid... they can be charged.

In any human is genetic inheritance and therefore inherent traits. Your subjective opining depicting human behaviour as simply learned and not as a result of or correlated to these inherent traits is illogical. Clearly we can learn certain behaviour but other behaviour is inherently predestined. Your simplistic notion you learn to be gay is in fact no different than you arguing one can unlearn his gayness.

That for me sounds like you trying to argue YOU believe you can learn not to be gay.

Look in the mirror and stop projecting your own identity denial on gays. 

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6 hours ago, Goddess said:

That would be up to individual couples, I imagine.

There are lots of infertile couples who cannot have children - just like homosexual couples, they can choose to adopt if procreating is a priority for them.

I'm finished childbearing.  A relationship without procreating is a priority for me.

Life isn't "one size fits all".  Judging homosexuality only on the ability to procreate is......archaic.  And discriminatory.  Lots of relationships do not involve procreation.

I don't think I ever said that every relationship involves procreation, nor that homosexual couples can not adopt.  

Since every homosexual was in fact, procreated, then it becomes all about understanding homosexuals if  homosexuals feel that after we are created, then humans no longer have a responsibility to that reality/that process which did create each homosexual.

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1 hour ago, Tdot said:

I don't think I ever said that every relationship involves procreation, nor that homosexual couples can not adopt.  

Since every homosexual was in fact, procreated, then it becomes all about understanding homosexuals if  homosexuals feel that after we are created, then humans no longer have a responsibility to that reality/that process which did create each homosexual.

Your response is incoherent.

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1 hour ago, Rue said:

Your response is incoherent.

Thank you, for having a lot of passion toward my opinion. 

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On November 15, 2019 at 9:39 AM, bcsapper said:

Same as heterosexuality, I guess. 

I never wondered why I was heterosexual, so I don't wonder why people are homosexual.

 

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18 hours ago, Tdot said:

Thank you, for having a lot of passion toward my opinion. 

I could not understand your last point and I have compassion for anyone who can dance better than me and gays dance well I mean come on have you seen what they do on Broadway? 

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I actually have very little passion for this thread. I think it is the  continued example of projected struggles the thread creator expresses over being gay. I might have compassion if I felt there was any insight  as to that by the thread creator. I do not judge him or have passion, that is just what I read..a struggle to try extinguish being gay by calling it a lesson one can unlearn...that is code for repressing one's feelings when I read it.

 

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38 minutes ago, Rue said:

I could not understand your last point and I have compassion for anyone who can dance better than me and gays dance well I mean come on have you seen what they do on Broadway? 

Okay, I can respect you posting that opinion here.

But since I never discussed dancing and I also never mentioned compassion, then is your response...incoherent?

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6 minutes ago, Tdot said:

Okay, I can respect you posting that opinion here.

But since I never discussed dancing and I also never mentioned compassion, then is your response...incoherent?

No. My sentences expressed complete thoughts. They were also meant to be sarcastic or as gay people say cheeky.

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4 hours ago, Rue said:

No. My sentences expressed complete thoughts. They were also meant to be sarcastic or as gay people say cheeky.

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I agree that you expressed complete thoughts. I was able to determine that thanks to my same, exact reasoning, which I used to express my complete thoughts here.  

Such as I where I posted "I don't think I ever said that every relationship involves procreation, nor that homosexual couples can not adopt..." And where I said "Since every homosexual was in fact, procreated, then it becomes all about understanding if homosexuals feel...". The same goes, for when I said "...after we [humans] are created, then humans no longer have a responsibility to that reality/that process which [also] did create each homosexual."

So thanks for referencing that important reality, when I was able to expound on it.

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17 hours ago, Tdot said:

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I agree that you expressed complete thoughts. I was able to determine that thanks to my same, exact reasoning, which I used to express my complete thoughts here.  

Such as I where I posted "I don't think I ever said that every relationship involves procreation, nor that homosexual couples can not adopt..." And where I said "Since every homosexual was in fact, procreated, then it becomes all about understanding if homosexuals feel...". The same goes, for when I said "...after we [humans] are created, then humans no longer have a responsibility to that reality/that process which [also] did create each homosexual."

So thanks for referencing that important reality, when I was able to expound on it.

You call it expounding and I call it you engaging in the projection of your own personal, subjective conflicted struggle with homosexuality. 

I also contend you do not engage in intellectual discourse but instead engage in subjective comments trying to intellectualize yiur own misguided characterization of trying to  repress your homosexual desires by posing you can unlearn being gay. How is that working for you?

I argue you have engaged  in the supposition you can define other people's behaviour so I can do the same with you. Because you do, I do and do I  suppose you are gay and can not deal with it using the exact same reasoning process you do about gays.

Anything else?

You really want to intellectualize your views on homosexuality by saying gays can unlearn being gay? Hey now presto, I am no longer a Jew,  I unlearned it?

Finish your argument. What curriculum will you use? Will you take a porno film of a blow job or anal sex and play it in reverse with a voice over saying...bad bad bad?

How about you start with politicians first.  They screw anyone who turns their back on them and they  ask us to swallow stuff...

Get back to me with you curriculum.

Here is also a reminder.

We already tried  what you sugges with native Canadians. You need to read up on what happened.

You also need to stop with the anxiety over Tom Cruise. 

 

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4 hours ago, Rue said:

I also contend you do not engage in intellectual discourse but instead engage in subjective comments trying to intellectualize yiur own misguided characterization of trying to  repress your homosexual desires by posing you can unlearn being gay. How is that working for you?

I argue you have engaged  in the supposition you can define other people's behaviour so I can do the same with you. Because you do, I do and do I  suppose you are gay and can not deal with it using the exact same reasoning process you do about gays.

Anything else?

You really want to intellectualize your views on homosexuality by saying gays can unlearn being gay? Hey now presto, I am no longer a Jew,  I unlearned it?

Finish your argument. What curriculum will you use? Will you take a porno film of a blow job or anal sex and play it in reverse with a voice over saying...bad bad bad?

How about you start with politicians first.  They screw anyone who turns their back on them and they  ask us to swallow stuff...

Get back to me with you curriculum.

Here is also a reminder.

We already tried  what you sugges with native Canadians. You need to read up on what happened.

You also need to stop with the anxiety over Tom Cruise. 

 

 

It is your right to contend that I do not engage in intellectual discourse. But you failed to provide any proof, outside of your obtuse opinion.  

Yes.

Just like the proof you failed to provide, when claiming I engaged in subjective comments trying to intellectualize misguided characterizations of trying to repress homosexual desires by posing any human can unlearn being gay.  And since you have never met me nor know whatever it is that I embody, in life, then I do not need to bother asking how that line of thinking is working out for you ... Which is why you see no question there.

Mainly because you made it very, clear, how your line of thinking is working out for you.  It's a flawed foundation because it is not based in, logic, that you feel nothing wrong with approaching humans with the whimsical bizarre claims you make ---at people you've never encountered in life. Moreover I argue that you have engaged in, colossal dishonesty, if you claim that I tried to define other people's behavior at any point here.

As I reviewed your posts at others here especially before I posted here, I saw the huge difference between you and I. A colossal difference which your emotional intelligence likely could never get cognizant of; I love to invite people to help me understand their thinking yes so then we all can respect and revere each other, easier, whereas you are not like that. Because you enjoy your right to disregard what other people think, whenever it is not inline with narratives that your narcissism has polluted your reasoning and rationale with.  

And considering that my posts here do exactly reveal that I love and respect and engage all humans no matter if heterosexual or homosexual, plus how I never mentioned anything about anyone unlearning to be Jewish, as well as the fact that I never said a word about any Tom Cruise nor anxiety? It further highlights how your opinions here are guided only by your, narcissism, or perhaps any hallucinogens you ingested.

And please, do not get back to me ---not with your curriculum nor for anything else here. lol. I think I will be doing myself a huge, service, by steering clear of the misery which you burden this great website with.

But if you ever want to talk in person/need veracious help loosing yourself from, demons, then hey give me a holler if you're ever in the Bloor/Yonge Street area of the big 6 :)

 

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20 minutes ago, Tdot said:

 

It is your right to contend that I do not engage in intellectual discourse. But you failed to provide any proof, outside of your obtuse opinion.  

Yes.

Just like the proof you failed to provide, when claiming I engaged in subjective comments trying to intellectualize misguided characterizations of trying to repress homosexual desires by posing any human can unlearn being gay.  And since you have never met me nor know whatever it is that I embody, in life, then I do not need to bother asking how that line of thinking is working out for you ... Which is why you see no question there.

Mainly because you made it very, clear, how your line of thinking is working out for you.  It's a flawed foundation because it is not based in, logic, that you feel nothing wrong with approaching humans with the whimsical bizarre claims you make ---at people you've never encountered in life. Moreover I argue that you have engaged in, colossal dishonesty, if you claim that I tried to define other people's behavior at any point here.

As I reviewed your posts at others here especially before I posted here, I saw the huge difference between you and I. A colossal difference which your emotional intelligence likely could never get cognizant of; I love to invite people to help me understand their thinking yes so then we all can respect and revere each other, easier, whereas you are not like that. Because you enjoy your right to disregard what other people think, whenever it is not inline with narratives that your narcissism has polluted your reasoning and rationale with.  

And considering that my posts here do exactly reveal that I love and respect and engage all humans no matter if heterosexual or homosexual, plus how I never mentioned anything about anyone unlearning to be Jewish, as well as the fact that I never said a word about any Tom Cruise nor anxiety? It further highlights how your opinions here are guided only by your, narcissism, or perhaps any hallucinogens you ingested.

And please, do not get back to me ---not with your curriculum nor for anything else here. lol. I think I will be doing myself a huge, service, by steering clear of the misery which you burden this great website with.

But if you ever want to talk in person/need veracious help loosing yourself from, demons, then hey give me a holler if you're ever in the Bloor/Yonge Street area of the big 6 :)

 

Let me put it as sussinctly as I can..you are engaging in behaviour you feel you can not control and so  want to get caught. So go turn yourself in. Save me the bullshit. I'm retired from that line of work.

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1 hour ago, Rue said:

Let me put it as sussinctly as I can..you are engaging in behaviour you feel you can not control and so  want to get caught. So go turn yourself in. Save me the bullshit. I'm retired from that line of work.

 Well in that case, let me put it far more succinctly then; I have no control over your hallucinations in here.

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On 3/28/2020 at 6:52 PM, Tdot said:

 Well in that case, let me put it far more succinctly then; I have no control

Yah  I said that. Its not hard to decipher from your words  and it causes you to obsess about homosexuality.  You think using this forum to try wash your hands will stop you from craving beef jerky? Really? You ain't kosher dude, stop trying. 

 

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You will note since he felt the heat about homosexuality he then switched to using the word negro after that to try incite. Do note the single entry members that appear on his threads and how they vanish but always support an intro to what he says. The m.o.is identical...it asks you  define an object of hatred then tie that scapegoat back to a failure in US society. It ran out of  ways to discuss the US with insulting terms so now tries to incite others to.

This is where it started its latest name  and ran from. 

His concept of negritude  sounds right out of the mouth of someone conflicted with his own gayness and brown skin.

 

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You want evidence Moonlight Graham here it is, in my opinion.

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