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2 hours ago, Shady said:

I didn’t say anything about being taken over.  You’re arguing with yourself.

What you're telling me is the FBI is a component of the Deep State. I get that it must be embarrassing to have to share your ideology with crackpot conspiracy theorists but at least own it.

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20 hours ago, eyeball said:

What you're telling me is the FBI is a component of the Deep State. I get that it must be embarrassing to have to share your ideology with crackpot conspiracy theorists but at least own it.

No, you still don't seem to understand.  The deep state doesn't refer to entire institutions.  And it's really not a conspiracy, it's out in the open.  It's one reason that the FISA issued a blistering criticism after the FBI was found to have purposely altered information to help their FISA application cases.  You're ignoring reality.  Here, I'll post it again, perhaps you, Micheal, etc can read it for one.

FISA court slams FBI conduct in Carter Page surveillance warrant applications

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html

 

 

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23 hours ago, Argus said:

The behaviour of the FBI with regard to FISA warrants has been similar for 40 years according to Napolitano. It's a matter of laziness by the FBI and poor oversight by the court. If the FISA court gives away warrants relatively easily then you go to them for stuff you shouldn't. It's not a conspiracy against Trump.

The absolute proof there is no deep state is that Trump hasn't already died. A half decent deep state, particularly involving the intelligence agencies, would have killed him off by now.

Sorry, but purposely altering information isn't a "mistake".  It's done with a reason, and motive.  It's not laziness.  Regardless, this kind of thing is a great example of the undermining of confidence people have in what they expect to be lawful and just government institutions.  Public confidence will continue to erode as long as these problems and "mistakes" exist.  And it won't be Trump's fault.

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20 minutes ago, Shady said:

No, you still don't seem to understand.  The deep state doesn't refer to entire institutions.

It certainly does in Trump's mind and the minds of millions of people who support him.

You seem to be oblivious to how trying to rationalize and explain this away reflects on you.

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35 minutes ago, Shady said:

Sorry, but purposely altering information isn't a "mistake".  It's done with a reason, and motive.  It's not laziness.  Regardless, this kind of thing is a great example of the undermining of confidence people have in what they expect to be lawful and just government institutions.  Public confidence will continue to erode as long as these problems and "mistakes" exist.  And it won't be Trump's fault.

The good ship Public Confidence sailed off the edge of the world decades ago.  So how do you feel about wiring government's up to the Internet and turning the Telescreens around so its nearly impossible for government officials to produce these...'mistakes'?

The Deepstate is nothing more than the accumulating effects of decades of next to zero transparency and especially where lobbyists and law-makers interact.  In my experience people like you balk at imposing too much accountability on these people. Why is that?

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On 12/17/2019 at 2:51 PM, eyeball said:

Shouldn't this be titled how the Deep-State controls everything? Isn't that what's really going on?

Why haven't the 2nd Amendment folks been called to arms?

If the deep state democrats keep on trying to impeach President Trump with their treasonous actions, that day may just come. Those pro 2nd amendment pro Trump supporters are getting fed up with the democrats and their traitorous impeachable actions and their deep state MSM controlling the narrative. Those bunch of buffoons in the Democratic party have tried everything they can to try and impeach Trump, and they keep losing all the time. They know that they cannot win but they keep on trying. Sore election losers. Deplorable.

The democrats are just like the liberals are in Canada. They both are out to change America and Canada, and are trying their hardest to try and turn both those two countries into third world globalist hell holes, with the liberals and the democrats running the show forever. Those two stunned and foolish party's never offer anything that we the people really ever need or want but they are very good at forcing everything that we do not want on we the people. Sadly, there is no 2nd amendment here in Canada, not to forget to mention that we do not even have a 1st amendment in Canada.

We have the Charter of Rights, but that piece of useless rag paper does not really protect freedom of speech, and the words in that rag can be interpreted into so many ways as to be able to take away and deny anyone's freedom of speech away from them. We have hate laws that are in contrary to what the COR says that all Canadians have. Their right to their freedom of expression. the Canadian and American MSM liberal media is no friend of we the people. They have become the enemy. Disgusting. 

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