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The Ranger Patrol Groups by the way are part of the Army Reserve force contingent, so deploying the Rangers is deploying the Army, in for a penny in for a pound

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If this does light off into a military confrontation, in that the Mounties go in, get handed their asses and then call in the Army, it;'s not the same Army as it was in 1990

Since 2006, Canada has fielded the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command, to fight the Global War On Terror.

So if there is a contact, it's not going to be the Rangers, it's going to be the Canadian Special Operations Regiment and Joint Task Force 2

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15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Were they democratic ?

I don't think so, they were student rabble rousers, they didn't have a democratic mandate, zero chance they could have won an election

Which is why the Party knew they could get away with crushing them

Them not having democracy was kinda the point.

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33 minutes ago, mowich said:

The 'economy needs to be put on a path to zero growth'?  I'm sure that will go far to solving the problems on reserves when the funds dry up because there is no money in the governments treasury.  Did you even bother to think before you typed that drivel???

Yes I did actually.  I realize the concept of zero growth is as alien as it gets in your mind but that's your fault not the concept's.  Economists have been talking about it for decades AKA as a steady-state economy.  Of course its all communism to you people even the Democrats are commies these days so there's really no point trying to explain this to you. Just go google it up yourself.

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35 minutes ago, mowich said:

The 'economy needs to be put on a path to zero growth'?  I'm sure that will go far to solving the problems on reserves when the funds dry up because there is no money in the governments treasury.  Did you even bother to think before you typed that drivel???

The trouble with people like eyeball is that he thinks that all conservatives have to be right wingers or in their own words, a bunch of Nazi's, or white supremos, and all are just plain racists. These lefty liberals are a joke and a half. We both are conservatives, and we are not Nazi's or racists. Although with him, no matter what we say we will never convince him that we are not racists. These lefty liberals think that by calling us Nazi's and racists that they are going to somehow be able to try and scare us from posting here, and that we will run away and hide like most lefty liberals always do themselves. Good luck with that!  :D

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Just now, Iceni warrior said:

Them not having democracy was kinda the point.

The Communists have democracy, it's just not liberal democracy.

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See, the Soviet Union was a democratic republic

Soviet means Council.  You elected the leader of your local Soviet and its like a pyramid with a Supreme Soviet at the top.

The USSR also had a written constitution with enshrined rights, what the Bolsheviks simply did was suspend it in a permanent state of military emergency

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4 hours ago, scribblet said:

Why is he talking to the Mohawks, why is he not talking to the minority of hereditary chiefs who are against this.    Either way, this is about more than a pipeline, IMO it’s about dominance and infighting between the Chiefs…    

This is going to bring the country to the brink if Trudeau doesn’t act now as radical s socialists, Greens, anarchists and wannabes are laying siege to democracy, the rule of law and insulting to the overwhelming support of resource development by indigenous groups.    Why are the majority of voices in favor of this not being heard?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/chief-meeting-mohawks-1.5466109   

In the midst of Saturday's meeting, Wet'suwet'en hereditary Chief Woos, who also goes by the name of Frank Alec, was patched through on a speaker phone. He told the room that the RCMP was still on his territory. 

"I would suggest to you loud and clear that we want the RCMP out of Gidimt'en territory," said Woos. An audio recording of part of the meeting was leaked to CBC News by a source who attended. 

 

Good question about the Mohawks, scribblet.  Not their land under question. Not their decision about the line one way or the other.  Totally superfluous to the issue. Their entrance into the protests/blockades has nothing to do with supporting the so-called hereditary chiefs for all their hollow words and poorly made signs.  It is solely based on self-interest and the goal of causing as much economic chaos to the country as possible.  If they had an iota of care or compassion for the Wet'suwet'en people, they would not be holding up essential goods and services to the community by blockading rail lines. 

Woos is absolutely right.  The RCMP are staying along the right of way as the injunction dictated - to maintain law and order and safe passage for the Coastal Gaslink employees - over a 1000 of them being Wet'suwet'en. 

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

See, the Soviet Union was a democratic republic

Soviet means Council.  You elected the leader of your local Soviet and its like a pyramid with a Supreme Soviet at the top.

The USSR also had a written constitution with enshrined rights, what the Bolsheviks simply did was suspend it in a permanent state of military emergency

Sounds like your kind of a regime.

None of that messy opposition, just the rule of might.

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7 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Sounds like your kind of a regime.

None of that messy opposition, just the rule of might.

Indeed, I can respect a leftist with the courage of their convictions, fully prepared to liquidate millions for the World Socialist Revolution

I'm not getting down with this weak shit bourgeois Democratic Socialism tho, don't waste my mfk'n time.

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

If this does light off into a military confrontation, in that the Mounties go in, get handed their asses and then call in the Army, it;'s not the same Army as it was in 1990

Since 2006, Canada has fielded the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command, to fight the Global War On Terror.

So if there is a contact, it's not going to be the Rangers, it's going to be the Canadian Special Operations Regiment and Joint Task Force 2

In the early years, a Canadian soldier looked like a real rough and tough soldier and were all ready for war, not like the ones that we now see in the military today. Now when I see some of the soldiers that the military has in their arsenal lineup, I do not know as to whether too laugh or cry. There are tall ones, short ones, fat ones, skinny, ones, many people of color ones, gay ones and no doubt trans ones. The military today looks more like a pro gender and multicultural pile of hodge-podge funny looking people. A small band of school children could probably beat them all in a battle. Lol. I remember way back when in the sixties when an RCMP officer or Canadian soldier pretty much all had to look the same in height and weight. Now they come in all kinds of sizes and shapes. Some even do not have to wear the old RCMP red stetson hat anymore. Now they can wear whatever suits their religion on their heads. When a military or police department changes it's original uniform to please foreign others and look politically correct than you know that the military and police have become more and too politically correct. 

In the good old days before real liberalism came along and took hold of this country, and some people's brains, those pipeline demonstrators would of had their azzes kicked off the picket lines tout suite. Demonstrate all you want, just do not interfere in other people's lives and where they want to go. Today, those days have gone. Now the police must get down on bended knees and pretty much kiss their azzes, and ask them to please do not cause any problems. I do not need the extra paper work. Lol.   

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3 hours ago, Grand Mal said:

At least. All those white kids with dreadlocks, pretty sure they're about environmentalism and just piggy-backing on the Native issue. Probably think it'll get them more time in front of the cameras.

I read somewhere that some didn't even know what would be going through the pipeline. All they're doing is alienating the public. I won't be surprised when the Native protesters put the run on them.

Several bands have already spoken up against the influx of NGO bought protestors, environmental warriors, guilt-ridden whiteys and various other groups hoping to capitalize on the media coverage - but you have to hunt hard and long to find coverage about it and don't bother going anywhere near the liberal bought cbc or the extreme left tyee.  BC's Premier Horgan had Extinction Rebellion thugs outside his home this morning.  Now I am no fan of Horgan's but that type of behavior is waaay beyond the pale. The time has come for a united Indigenous voice soundly condemning these thugs and telling the rest of the hangers-on and wanna be seen on FB types to go home. 

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Indeed, I can respect a leftist with the courage of their convictions, fully prepared to liquidate millions for the World Socialist Revolution

I'm not getting down with this weak shit bourgeois Democratic Socialism tho, don't waste my mfk'n time.

So long as the jackboots are recycled and carbon free I'm up for it.

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3 minutes ago, taxme said:

In the early years, a Canadian soldier looked like a real rough and tough soldier and were all ready for war, not like the ones that we now see in the military today.

CANSOFCOM is an army unto itself, with its own selection, training and budget.  They got all the gear, they are a hand picked elite.

 

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In the event of a counterblockading operation there is an inner cordon and an outer cordon

The inner cordon at Oka was Vandoos, Regular Force Infantry, not Special Operations.

If it kicks off now, the Inner Cordon will be the National Mission Force, Mounties backed up by JTF2 & CSOR

The outer cordon will be the Reg Force with Reserve Augmentees.

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56 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

So Trudeau stands up today and says that he understands the frustrations and impact of rail blockades, but all must have more understanding and patience.

He dares not call the blockades "illegal", because that would mean somebody should be enforcing the "rule of law".

Oka was 78 days, but it was warm weather...how long can this one go ?

Well it's all about the Mohawks now and the Wet'suwet'ens for and against the line are being left to twist in the wind as the focus has now turned to the Eastern rail blockades.  This isn't about a pipeline anymore it is about one Indigenous group unsupported by a majority of their own people who have taken the law into their own hands in a so-far very successful attempt to bring our nation to grinding halt.  And no one in any level of government has the balls to say enough is enough.

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20 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure, its putting pressure on governments to start talking and changing the status quo on how we do business in Canada.  It's an effective strategy.  I've addressed the topic of jailing them several times now but I suspect you've been to busy foaming at the mouth to have noticed.  The topic as it usually does in these threads has expanded to other issues related to it.

Yup, I can spot a blinkered machine operator a mile away.  Hmmm a grader operator maybe?  Up and down the grade at 5 miles an hour for 43 years would give anyone tunnel vision.

You have made a fool of yourself and insulted the logging industry.  

Would like to see a few of these protesters singled out, convicted, and jailed. Everyday, arrest a few more . . . convicted and jailed.  Not the mass arrests that get all the media coverage, just peck away at them and deal with them harshly.  

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1 minute ago, mowich said:

This isn't about a pipeline anymore it is about one Indigenous group unsupported by a majority of their own people who have taken the law into their own hands in a so-far very successful attempt to bring our nation to grinding halt.  And no one in any level of government has the balls to say enough is enough.

This is about indigenous political sovereignty - the same thing its been about for years.  That's the issue no level of our government has the balls to touch and that's why we're still stuck where we are.

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3 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

You have made a fool of yourself and insulted the logging industry.  

How so exactly? I provided the comment you wanted so was there something else you need help with?

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42 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The Ranger Patrol Groups by the way are part of the Army Reserve force contingent, so deploying the Rangers is deploying the Army, in for a penny in for a pound

I was a Canadian Ranger for 7 years, Dougie.  I can tell you personally that if called upon to take down a blockade, I would and could have done so.    Besides, those on the barricades would be so stunned to see the Rangers, the troops would have them out of there in no time.  :D

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Just now, mowich said:

I was a Canadian Ranger for 7 years, Dougie.  I can tell you personally that if called upon to take down a blockade, I would and could have done so.    Besides, those on the barricades would be so stunned to see the Rangers, the troops would have them out of there in no time.  :D

Ah, well thank you for your service, but if you were a Ranger than you know the government would never use them as Infantry at the front.

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50 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes I did actually.  I realize the concept of zero growth is as alien as it gets in your mind but that's your fault not the concept's.  Economists have been talking about it for decades AKA as a steady-state economy.  Of course its all communism to you people even the Democrats are commies these days so there's really no point trying to explain this to you. Just go google it up yourself.

"Today, we have one of the best balance sheets of any developed country. But the truth is, Canada never repaid most of that debt. It’s just that, two decades later, the economy is so much larger that what was a crippling burden in the 1990s is easily manageable now. And we have plenty of room to borrow more without harming our creditworthiness much.

In a zero growth economy, this would have to end. Deficit spending would become more difficult, because there would be no growing out of debt ― it would all actually accumulate and become increasingly harder to pay off over time. Inevitably, governments would have to spend less on social programs, or tax more to maintain the current ones."

The One Big Problem With A Zero-Growth Economy

www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/zero-growth-economy_ca_5d8f7ad5e4b0ac3cdda97a2f

ET call home. 

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15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Ah, well thank you for your service, but if you were a Ranger than you know the government would never use them as Infantry at the front.

True that, Dougie.

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2 minutes ago, mowich said:

True that, Dougie.

Not saying the Rangers ain't tough enough to handle the Mohawks, but nice as the C19 Ranger Rifle is, the Mohawks will be packing AK's and AR's, so you'd be seriously outgunned

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