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3 hours ago, betsy said:

 

The lunatic environmentalists/socialist are very much a big part of this shenanigan  trying to destabilize Canada!  They see this a perfect timing with a weak government at the helm. 

Would they have dared doing this with Harper?  Nah!

Betsy there are some good ethical companies and good scientists out there working with indigenous communities balancing environmental concerns with a way to get natives employed and get work for many others. They get drowned out by others.It's hard to keep track although Mo and Zei and Scrib on the other thread covered it a bit. 

I know some people are fed up with PC b.s. All I can say is it's a damn political quick sand of a mess. It can suck you in real good and smother you with emotional rhetoric and legal paradoxes. 

I still think sanity will prevail and this will resolve itself soon.

When the railroad was first built it was literally an explosive exercise. A lot of people blew up carrying that nitro each step of the way towards building the tracks that became the foundation of our country.

I suspect that  analogy when dealing with this issue. You move to fast and boom..but it will get done. You can not stop the trains.

 

 

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On 2/17/2020 at 10:42 AM, Zeitgeist said:

So with the blockades of railroad crossings and entrances to government buildings across the country, we are seeing an alliance between radical environmentalists and unelected leaders of a tribe, the Wet’suwet’en.  The protests are against a natural gas pipeline that has already been approved by the elected chiefs of the 20 bands in the contested area.  These unelected chiefs who do not support Canadian law because they don’t recognize Canada are supported by anti-pipeline environmentalists.  They do not recognize that transporting oil and natural gas by pipelines is safer and cleaner than doing it by rail or truck.  They want to “shut down” Canada, yet there is no clear platform.  No doubt they want severe restrictions on fossil fuels and extremely high carbon taxes, but not for the Wet’suwet’en people, who they think should pay no taxes and carry on living with all the comfy carbon-based amenities on a racially pure land, exclusive of non-Indigenous people and free of pipelines.  Is this not part of the same trend we’re seeing in places like Hungary, where the Greens propose carbon taxes for the workers to pay for an exclusive, ethnically pure state?  Thoughts?

A closer look at some of the key players in the Lower Mainland’s Wet’suwet’en protests

With near-daily protests and blockades disrupting the Lower Mainland, residents are beginning to see some key faces appearing regularly on their TV screens.

While demonstrators have taken pains to reject the label of “protester,” referring to themselves instead as land defenders supporting Indigenous sovereignty, it has become apparent that behind many of the actions is a much smaller group of activists.

In Vancouver, the face of the string of actions — including an occupation of Attorney General David Eby‘s office and several port blockades — is Natalie Knight.

“We are Indigenous people who have lived on this land for a very long time with uninvited settlers on our land,” Knight told Global News at the office occupation.

“It’s an economic disruption,” she said of the port blockade.

“We recognize that the government tends to only understand the language of money, so disrupting capital and the flow of goods is a language that they will understand.”

But Knight, who self-identifies as the organizer of solidarity actions with Wet’suwet’en in Vancouver, isn’t from Canada.

She told Global News Tuesday that she was of Yurok and Navajo ancestry with roots in California and New Mexico, and came to the country eight years ago for school, though did not want to discuss her immigration status.

“I don’t think I need to share my status with you,” she said.

Knight earned a PhD from Simon Fraser University, where she graduated with the Dean’s Convocation medal for her dissertation Dispossessed Indigeneity: Literary Excavations of Internalized Colonialism, described by the school as moving “between the separate fields of Marxism, feminism, settler colonialism, and critical Indigenous studies.”

Perhaps presciently, her doctoral advisor Dr. Deanna Reader lauded Knight as a promising scholar and “one who will make an enormous contribution to public debates and urgent social issues in academia and well beyond.”

In the Fraser Valley, there is another activist group that’s either organized or facilitated a series of rail blockades, including two that forced the cancellation of West Coast Express service.

Formerly the Alliance Against Displacement, the group relaunched in January with a “wider mandate” as the Red Braid Alliance for Decolonial Socialism.

On its website, the group calls itself a “revolutionary working class and Indigenous organization active on lands occupied by British Columbia, Canada.”

The group has been active since 2013, but one of its key organizers, Ivan Drury, has deeper roots — going back to the three-month squat at the old Woodwards building in 2002.

Since then, he’s been the ubiquitous face of the group at tent cities from Nanaimo to Vancouver to Maple Ridge and in the campaign against Burnaby demovictions.

In January, he took the lead on a plan to set up an “anti-RCMP checkpoint” outside B.C. RCMP headquarters in Surrey in response to the force’s actions in Wet’suwet’en territory.

Drury did not respond to requests for comment.

Global News asked the Red Braid Alliance how a group that was founded on housing advocacy became a central actor in a series of civil disobedience actions in the Indigenous sovereignty movement, but they didn’t want to talk.

“We don’t want to talk to you on the record about that right now,” said the organization’s Listen Chen, reached by phone, “because it feels like a distraction from the movement as a whole.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/6601384/who-are-the-wetsuweten-protesters/

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On 2/17/2020 at 1:21 PM, WestCanMan said:

I love it when the environmental protestors break up camp, leaving mounds of plastic garbage behind.

 

2,500 loads of garbage in wake of Dakota protest.jpg

Keepers of the Earth burn pile of tires.jpg

'Keepers of the Earth'  burning tires.  You just can't make this stuff up. 

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On 2/18/2020 at 8:58 AM, PIK said:

These protesters in Ont are american mohawks. Time to bust heads and send them back. If this is not stopped now this country is done.  It will get to big to stop without the use of force and poor trudeau will never get his seat on the UN . Here is the country falling apart and trudeau had to be forced to come home.  He has given up on leading the country and needs to resign now.

Not too worry, PIK............all it took was a bunch of cash.  Quelle surprise.

$240M land-claim settlement with Akwesasne Mohawks approved by federal Liberal cabinet

https://nationalpost.com/news/cabinet-approves-240m-mohawk-settlement-for-132-year-old-land-claim

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On 2/17/2020 at 3:02 PM, scribblet said:

Some of these protesters have been bused in across the border, they have their own agendas.  Some of them don't even know what's in the pipeline, they think it's oil.

This appears to be  aimed at disenfranchising the 28 chiefs and 85% of the Wet’suwet’en people who voted for the pipeline. 

 

 

 

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On 2/18/2020 at 6:20 PM, jacee said:

Where did that happen?

Dp

 

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6 minutes ago, mowich said:

 

Envrionmental Protestors - This photo says it all.jpg

You want more?  My collection goes all the way back to Clayoquot.  Yet to see a post-protest photo that didn't include piles of garbage and filth left behind. 

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7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Wait. Do you realize that pictures and memes don't convince people ?

Maybe he still hopes liberals and the rest of the environments can see what a bunch of hypocrites they really are. I mean they aren't listening, and now you saying they aren't bright enough to interrupt a picture , I thought they where worth a thousand words....

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

News readers don't have to be good at math.

Dogs and chimps are generally better than that.

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