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Trump plays back the words of the mainstream media from January and February downplaying the virus at today’s briefing.  He also played back Democrats own words from January, February and March downpl

This is what Trump is up against 

Americans don't trust government to solve all their problems...it is not like it is in Canada. Trumpers know the damn govmint usually hoses things up anyway. Just need canned food, water, to

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On 4/16/2020 at 9:29 AM, godzilla said:

Bill Gates has an understanding of global politics rivalling that of a sea snail. 

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“Halting funding for the World Health Organization during a world health crisis is as dangerous as it sounds,” Gates wrote on Twitter early Wednesday morning. “Their work is slowing the spread of COVID-19 and if that work is stopped no other organization can replace them. The world needs @WHO now more than ever.”

Did the WHO slow the spread of the virus by 1) saying that H2H transmission wasn't occurring a month after that was known to be false, 2) telling people that wearing masks would effectively help to spread the virus faster, 3) telling countries that blocking travellers from China [back when they were the lone source of the coronavirus] was racist, 4) they didn't slow it down at all, it seems like everything that the WHO did helped spread the virus and the fact that it's a global pandemic is mainly the fault of the WHO, or 5) the correct answer is 4 godzilla, only an idiot would get this wrong. 

Again, the correct answer is 4 godzilla. 

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On 4/16/2020 at 9:12 AM, Boges said:

Is it really TDS when Trump and his flunkies keep saying astronomically stupid things? 

Wow, Covid is only the 7th known strain of coronavirus to infect humans, not the 19th. Kelly Conway was wrong about that. Does that make her as incompetent as the presumptive nominee for the Dems? Does Biden even know he's in his on house right now?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Wow, Covid is only the 7th known strain of coronavirus to infect humans, not the 19th. Kelly Conway was wrong about that. Does that make her as incompetent as the presumptive nominee for the Dems? Does Biden even know he's in his on house right now?

Her statement would indicate there were multiple COVIDs. Not multiple Coronviruses. 

 

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On 3/26/2020 at 3:57 PM, WestCanMan said:

I don't think that the virus is taking Trump down, but it has given some senior Dem politicians a chance to act like adults, and be leaders, instead of just being competitors in a Trump Derangement Syndrome contest. 

Up until a week or so ago I didn't have anything positive to say about more than a handful of Dems. None of them were actual presidential candidates.

I haven't followed Cuomo or Newsom much, but recently they've showed signs of actual leadership instead of just virtue-signalling, bitching and stupidity. Based on where they're governing, they both have a solid shot at winning the Dem primary in 4 years. They'd both chew up Biden and spit him out.

 

I cannot wait to see Trump and Biden go head to head on TV. Trump will chew Biden up and spit him out with ease. Christ, Biden hardly can speak nor knows most of the time as to what he is trying to say. Why did the demonrats want to have this guy be their #1 man for them in the hopes that he will be the next President? Forgetful Joe does not stand a chance against Trump. Trump may even try and be funny with Biden, and ask old Biden as to what state is he in and Biden will probably say that he is in the state of panic.  Cuomo and Newsom are full blown liars and idiots. But what else can one expect from a demonrat? That is all they know how to do is lie like hell all the time. ;)

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3 minutes ago, Boges said:

Her statement would indicate there were multiple COVIDs. Not multiple Coronviruses. 

 

For your edification:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html

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Human Coronavirus Types

Coronaviruses are named for the crown-like spikes on their surface. There are four main sub-groupings of coronaviruses, known as alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.

Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s. The seven coronaviruses that can infect people are:

Common human coronaviruses

  1. 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  2. NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  3. OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  4. HKU1 (beta coronavirus)

Other human coronaviruses

  1. MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  2. SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  3. SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)

People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.

Sometimes coronaviruses that infect animals can evolve and make people sick and become a new human coronavirus. Three recent examples of this are 2019-nCoV, SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV.

That's from the CDC. I'm not a virologist or epidemiologist. I don't know why they chose the name Covid for this one and left the other ones in the family with coronavirus, but KC sn't in left field for saying this isn't the first go-round with coronavirus. She just got the name wrong. If we hold Dems to the same standard this thread would be 1,000 pages long. AOC's thread would be 500 pages alone. 

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On 4/15/2020 at 12:05 PM, Boges said:

What happens if you remove New York and New Jersey Death Totals as of today from the rest of the US totals?

11,500 for New York
3,000 for New Jersey

That's 14,500. 

US totals are around 27,000

That's 12,500 deaths for the rest of the US. 

Canada has just over 1,100 deaths. 

So it's still a fair bit more per capita, but it's a lot closer. However, you would have to consider that you would have removed the most densely populated part of the US from consideration. So again, not exactly apples to apples. 

Most consider the population difference of Canada to the US as 10:1. 30 mil for Canada vs 300 mil for the US. 

In reality Canada's population is approaching 40 mil and if you take the states of New York and New Jersey from consideration, the US population goes below 300 mil. 

I'll concede this is a very cold and dispassionate discussion regarding the deaths of real people. 

Why are there so many crazy people like you still around and breathing? Who cares as too how many people are dying from this so called big bad scary virus when there are millions of people around the world that have died from so many other seasonal flu's that come around every year, and the many other diseases that people have died from every year like diabetes, alcoholism, drugs, malaria, heart problems and so much more.  Why and when did all of a sudden you and so many others here start to care and start to worry about how many people are supposed to have died from this virus?   

Can you or anyone else here want to explain this to me?  But if anyone does not want to bother replying to my question, then why don't you all just shut the hell up about how many people are supposedly dying from this nasty terrible virus.  Over too you. ;)

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Bill Maher right again, this time about panic porn err the mainstream media.  “Giving a proper perspective isn’t a cover up of the truth.  It is the truth”

 

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12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

For your edification:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html

That's from the CDC. I'm not a virologist or epidemiologist. I don't know why they chose the name Covid for this one and left the other ones in the family with coronavirus, but KC sn't in left field for saying this isn't the first go-round with coronavirus. She just got the name wrong. If we hold Dems to the same standard this thread would be 1,000 pages long. AOC's thread would be 500 pages alone. 

I'm sure you do hold Dems to the same standard. 

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5 minutes ago, Shady said:

Bill Maher right again, this time about panic porn err the mainstream media.  “Giving a proper perspective isn’t a cover up of the truth.  It is the truth”

 

I'm sure you're as supportive of Bill when he comments on Trump. 

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10 minutes ago, taxme said:

Why are there so many crazy people like you still around and breathing? Who cares as too how many people are dying from this so called big bad scary virus when there are millions of people around the world that have died from so many other seasonal flu's that come around every year, and the many other diseases that people have died from every year like diabetes, alcoholism, drugs, malaria, heart problems and so much more.  Why and when did all of a sudden you and so many others here start to care and start to worry about how many people are supposed to have died from this virus?   

Can you or anyone else here want to explain this to me?  But if anyone does not want to bother replying to my question, then why don't you all just shut the hell up about how many people are supposedly dying from this nasty terrible virus.  Over too you. ;)

You want me to respond to your denials of this deadly disease and ad hominem attacks? 

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4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

For your edification:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html

That's from the CDC. I'm not a virologist or epidemiologist. I don't know why they chose the name Covid for this one and left the other ones in the family with coronavirus, but KC sn't in left field for saying this isn't the first go-round with coronavirus. She just got the name wrong. If we hold Dems to the same standard this thread would be 1,000 pages long. AOC's thread would be 500 pages alone. 

It would appear as though, as some believe already, that they are now lumping in all the different types of Corona virus deaths together into one big one to be able to up the numbers to make it appear as though we have one big bad scary pandemic virus going on around here. I find it quite interesting that all the people that I know have not yet come down with this virus. And I do know a number of people, okay. 

The virus will not be taking down Trump, much to the disappointment of all those anti-Trumpers out there. Oh, so sad for them!! Need a hanky, all you leftist liberals democrats out there? LOL. And if there is anyone who has anything to say bad about Kelly Ann Conway is to me one big mother of an arse hole. The woman has more class on the end of her right thumb then a bunch of her haters will ever have in a life time. When the woman speaks, she is able to run circles around those who try and make Trump look like the big bad bogeyman here. i know who all of the big bad bogeyman are/ They are the globalists like Bill Gates and Zuckerborg and so many others like our politicians and the media who keep trying to push this scary virus story to it's maximum. Pro-vaccine Gates has opened the "gates of hell" on all of us. Sadly, there are just too many fools out there that believe his lies. Aw well. :unsure:

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19 minutes ago, Shady said:

Bill Maher right again, this time about panic porn err the mainstream media.  “Giving a proper perspective isn’t a cover up of the truth.  It is the truth”

 

Great video, Shady. Let's hope most members watch it and try and listen to what Bill is saying?  CHILL OUT,  MAN/WOMAN. It's not the end of the world. It will go away and whether we all just stay at home or go out will not make a bit of difference. We all at some time have to go out and stock up on essentials and that is where there will probably be a good chance of someone supposedly catching the virus. We know that the media has a lot to do with all of this terror and scaremongering. They will not stop talking about it over and over and over again. Enough already. Shut the f up. I am sick and tired of listening to what appears to be a lot of brainwashing and propaganda going on here. Just looking at that hat Tam broad scares the crap out of me, and apparently she is on the board of WHO who is pretty much financed by communist China. 

So plenty of people are supposedly dying from this virus, so what? People by the millions are dying every day from some other seasonal flu virus that comes around every year, and the many people that die every year from the many other deaths from the many other diseases that have nothing to do with the virus. Cancer takes more lives than pretty much any other disease does. But the media does not go on over and over again and again about that. Why this? And as I always say and believe? When the media goes ape chit over something than that is the time for me to turn the arse holes off. They enjoy making up big lies out of nothing. 

But the only problem I have with Bill bob is that the guy despises Trump. But then again after all he is one of those leftist liberal democrats. So, what else can one expect from those people, eh? But again, that was a great video put out by Billy bob. ;)

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42 minutes ago, Boges said:

I'm sure you do hold Dems to the same standard. 

Democrats need to be held to a higher standard because they have this nasty habit of always lying like chit. :D

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40 minutes ago, Boges said:

You want me to respond to your denials of this deadly disease and ad hominem attacks? 

I just asked you a bloody simple question which you appear are trying to ignore by asking me another question? Why have you gone all ape shit over how many have died form this virus? I do not believe that you have ever come on here and told us all as to how concerned you are over all about the many other people who have been dying for decades now from the many different strains of viruses out there and the many other diseases also that are also out there killing people?  Why are you all so concerned and all in a panic and in fear over this China virus? I was just curious, that's all? 

I think that you are suffering from too much exposure to the fake and lying leftist lieberal media who will never miss up on an opportunity and a chance to make a mountain out of a mole hill. But I guess that is just you, eh? Whatever the media or your politicians tell you, you will believe them with all your leftist liberal heart. ;)

 

 

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Taxme your denial of the virus a lot of things. For example with some illnesses if you don't acknowledge them they can spread  and kill or in some cases enter the brain and impair cognitive processing. 

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Just when you think they got it all figured out...

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Americans at World Health Organization transmitted real-time information about coronavirus to Trump administration.

The presence of so many U.S. officials undercuts President Trump’s charge that the WHO’s failure to communicate the extent of the threat, born of a desire to protect China, is largely responsible for the rapid spread of the virus in the United States.

 

Dang....now what?

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Trump tells a damnable and murderous lie

Everything that the WHO knew, the Trump administration knew — in real time.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEO6-Hs2yIYiDDTm6ZMraeq4qGAgEKg8IACoHCAowjtSUCjC30XQw_qe5AQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

 

One would hope the world will come out of this with new crimes against humanity that leaders can be charged with.  Trump and Jinping should both be shackled and frog-marched together everywhere they go from now on.

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8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

One would hope the world will come out of this with new crimes against humanity that leaders can be charged with.  Trump and Jinping should both be shackled and frog-marched together everywhere they go from now on.

 

What crimes ?    It is not a crime to stop donating the most money to the World Health Organization.

Hope all you want.....

 

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On 4/18/2020 at 11:59 AM, Boges said:

I'm sure you do hold Dems to the same standard. 

Dude there are far worse things than this to say about the Dems every day. I just don't have all day to talk about their idiocy.

Did I even mention Joe Biden's latest on-screen dementia moment? Nope, his mental frailty is old news now. If Americans vote for Biden they're actually voting to put the VP on the mound, because Biden doesn't remember what a fastball is anymore. 

James Carville had an idiot meltdown, I never said boo. 

AOC is a doltism factory, I'm sure she said something that orders of magnitude worse this week. Check this golden oldy out:

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Unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs

When was the last time you saw me write a single word about Pelosi in the last few months? I didn't even talk about her ice cream video, "relating to Americans who have room in their freezer for 13 different kinds of ice cream during covid". She blabs every day, nothing she ever says is smart. That idiot just held up the Cornavirus relief money for her own political gain. If withholding a second round of aid to Ukraine [when no one felt like Russia was actually going to attack anyways] was worthy of impeachment then what about withholding aid money from millions of Americans on the brink of actual financial disaster?

I hold Dems to the same standard that Chris Rock holds "retarded" kids to when he plays basketball. You don't even bother with double-dribble. You just say something when they carry the ball like it's a football. 

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11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

One would hope the world will come out of this with new crimes against humanity that leaders can be charged with.  Trump and Jinping should both be shackled and frog-marched together everywhere they go from now on.

Try and post news, not somebody’s opinion.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

What crimes ?    It is not a crime to stop donating the most money to the World Health Organization.

No, but it should be a crime for this...

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But this smear is particularly deadly. As the virus bears down on less-developed countries in sub-Saharan Africa, Central and South America, and South and Southeast Asia, the WHO has had to divert attention from the pandemic to defend itself against Trump’s smear and the loss of its top funding source, the United States. Thousands of Americans are dying needlessly because of Trump’s dithering. How many more around the world will die because of his scapegoating of the WHO for his own failures?

 

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I did post news, Shady.

About what, that Trump was given real time information?  Sure, but the information was fake.  That’s the whole point.  China lied.  Stop carrying water for them.  It’s patheuc.

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, but it should be a crime for this...

 

They’re not smears if they’re true,  the WHO is a corrupt organization that helped China lie to the world.  Actions have consequences.

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