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1 hour ago, Shady said:

Complete nonsense.  Enacting FEMA isn’t destructive.  Enacting the army corps or engineers isn’t destructive.  Enacting the CDC isn’t destructive.  Enacting travel bans isn’t destructive.  Enacting the Defence Production Act isn’t destructive.  

Trump's enacting of travel bans were demonstrably destructive because he merely provided an illusion of security. He compounded this exponentially by claiming everything was under control.  Humpty Dumpty only enacted everything else to put himself back together after it was patently clear no one had anything under control at all.

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Your hyperbole is out of control.  See a doctor.

Your sycophancy is illogical. See a political scientist. 

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Trump's enacting of travel bans were demonstrably destructive because he merely provided an illusion of security. He compounded this exponentially by claiming everything was under control.  Humpty Dumpty only enacted everything else to put himself back together after it was patently clear no one had anything under control at all. 

 

Still better than Trudeau...Trump's wife Melania did not get infected and cause him to quarantine for weeks. 

Trudeau remains in hiding.

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Trump's enacting of travel bans were demonstrably destructive because he merely provided an illusion of security. He compounded this exponentially by claiming everything was under control.  Humpty Dumpty only enacted everything else to put himself back together after it was patently clear no one had anything under control at all. 

No, it wasn’t an illusion.  It’s just that a large number of people had already travelled from China during the previous couple of months.  You need to stop letting your hate for Trump get in the way of reality.

Travel data of passengers arriving in the United States from China during the critical period in December, January and February, when the disease took hold in that country, shows a stunning 759,493 people entered the U.S.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/disaster-motion-34-million-travelers-poured-us-coronavirus/story?id=69933625

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See how the goal posts have moved.  It’s not that the travel ban isn’t a good idea any more, it’s that there wasn’t really a ban!  Trump Derangement Syndrome at its finest! Orange man bad.

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3 hours ago, Iceni warrior said:

A potential treatment is worth investigating.

What a fucking genius.

Now all we have to do is find someone who thinks it isn't worth investigating possible treatments to make Trump's deflection valid.

Of course, some might say that Trump is spending so much time hyping an unproven drug in order to calm the markets and increase his chances of reelection.

Not me though, now you have shown what a genius he is for saying it is worth investigating potential treatments I shall be mounting a campaign to get him the Nobel prize for chemistry he so clearly deserves.

 

He's using the bully pulpit to keep people's eye on the prize, and it's a negative somehow. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug, but lets find out if Chloroquine is a helluva drug and stop bashing Trump for suggesting it.

He said nothing wrong and the TDS crowd still jumps down his throat, that's a clear sign of TDS.

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4 minutes ago, Shady said:

No there absolutely was a ban.  But yes, in November, December, and January a lot of people from China traveled to the United States.  

Shady, the date on the article I linked to is Apr 4th. It reported that people were still flying in from China last week.

Why haven't you read it yet?

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3 minutes ago, Shady said:

The non existent travel ban! :lol:

United, Delta, American Airlines Suspending All U.S. Flights to China

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/delta-suspending-all-flights-to-china/2274160/

Which, of course, Trump claimed the credit for...

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Just now, eyeball said:

Shady, the date on the article I linked to is Apr 4th. It reported that people were still flying in from China last week.

Why haven't you read it yet?

No that’s not true.  Other than medical personnel and medical equipment, no, you’re just not telling the truth. I’m glad you’ve come around though and realized the ban was necessary.

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2 hours ago, Boges said:

He's contradicting the advice of his own specialists by creating unrealistic expectations from this drug. 

To the point that he refused to let Fauci answer questions about the drug. 

He did no such thing, he didn't create unrealistic expectations. He simply said there is cause for hope, and that is true, you're deranged to pretend that is a negative somehow.

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Just now, Iceni warrior said:

Which, of course, Trump claimed the credit for...

Well he did enact a ban January 31st.  You guys really need to make up your mind.  Is it that the ban wasn’t necessary, that it was too late, that it didn’t work, or that its racist.  You guys are all over the place.

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

He did no such thing, he didn't create unrealistic expectations. He simply said there is cause for hope, and that is true, you're deranged to pretend that is a negative somehow.

Exacty.  Fauci has answered dozens of questions on the subject.  More Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

He's using the bully pulpit to keep people's eye on the prize, and it's a negative somehow. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug, but lets find out if Chloroquine is a helluva drug and stop bashing Trump for suggesting it.

He said nothing wrong and the TDS crowd still jumps down his throat, that's a clear sign of TDS.

You can take the advice of Trump over that of medical experts like Fauci and the CDC if you want.

TDS indeed.

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1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

You can take the advice of Trump over that of medical experts like Fauci and the CDC if you want.

TDS indeed.

Trump's advice doesn't contradict Fauci at all, deranged. Stop listening to your anti-Trump media outlets, they are filling your mind with garbage.

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5 minutes ago, Shady said:

No, it wasn’t an illusion.  It’s just that a large number of people had already travelled from China during the previous couple of months.

And another 40000 more came the following couple of months right up until last week.

Why can't you acknowledge that and move on?

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1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

You can take the advice of Trump over that of medical experts like Fauci and the CDC if you want.

TDS indeed.

No, you’re refusing to listen to respected doctors on the ground using the drug to help people recover.

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

And another 40000 more came the following couple of months right up until last week.

Why can't you acknowledge that and move on?

No that’s not true.  Because it’s not true.  Stop lying.

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2 minutes ago, Shady said:

Well he did enact a ban January 31st.  You guys really need to make up your mind.  Is it that the ban wasn’t necessary, that it was too late, that it didn’t work, or that its racist.  You guys are all over the place.

I'm in favour of banning all flights permanently but for reasons other than Covid 19.

It was too late and it didn't work.

To find out if it was racist I'd have to get inside Trump's head but despite all the wide open space it's not somewhere I want to go.

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1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

To find out if it was racist I'd have to get inside Trump's head but despite all the wide open space it's not somewhere I want to go.

At least you can see the light once every thousand times or so

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4 minutes ago, Shady said:

No that’s not true.  Other than medical personnel and medical equipment, no, you’re just not telling the truth. I’m glad you’ve come around though and realized the ban was necessary.

Do you have any evidence that the facts in the article I posted are untrue?  You're saying all 40000 of these people were medical personnel? Prove it.

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14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Because notorious Democrat strongholds let them in. Demohack Open Borders Policies for the fail.

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The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit. 

 

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1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said:

He did no such thing, he didn't create unrealistic expectations. He simply said there is cause for hope, and that is true, you're deranged to pretend that is a negative somehow.

So why doesn't Trump say there's no scientific evidence it works? 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/coronavirus-fauci-trump-anti-malaria-drug

“Take it. What do you have to lose?” Trump said on Saturday, suggesting he might do so himself after asking “my doctors”.

On Sunday, Trump said America doesn’t have time “to take a couple years” to test the efficacy of the drug in treating Covid-19.

But Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top doctor on infectious diseases and a key member of the White House taskforce, was adamant there was nothing to suggest the medicine had any benefit against coronavirus.

“In terms of science, I don’t think we can definitively say it works,” he told CBS’s Face the Nation.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Boges said:

So why doesn't Trump say there's no scientific evidence it works? 

 

 

Because he wants all the rabid Trump haters to leave limited drug supply for the believers.

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47 minutes ago, Boges said:

So why doesn't Trump say there's no scientific evidence it works? 

 

He did. He just said the evidence they do have is promising, so get more of that please. Yet still you jump down his throat, because TDS.

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