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 ...hmmmm..

How much better prepared and immobilizing for COVID-19, would the USA had been? If the Fed GOVT/Congress, had not been tied up with the Dem's investigations and hoax impeachment hearings plus the awesome Senate trial processes, from Nov-early Feb??

 

Should the USA citizens immediately outlaw the Dem party? What say you?

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5 hours ago, Tdot said:

Should the USA citizens immediately outlaw the Dem party? What say you?

That would be a blatant violation of the first amendment.

Even if it wasn't, it would still be a terrible precedent that could easily result in a political party you support getting outlawed. Such measures wouldn't only be used against political parties you don't like, especially in the long run, if that genie is let out of the bottle. So be careful what you wish for or you will pave the road to your own weapon possibly being used against you.

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51 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

That would be a blatant violation of the first amendment...

Actually I respect where you are going, but no, it does not apply here IMHO. Since this specific case is regarding the Dems' antics since Jan 2017.

For example, here are a list of things not protected by the 1st Amendment ---which the Dems are guilty of regarding President Trump:

  • Obscenity
  • Fighting words (Pelosi antics)
  • Defamation (including libel and slander)
  • Perjury (House impeachment hearings and subsequent witness tampering)
  • Blackmail
  • Incitement to imminent lawless action (Dem's politicizing the nation's fight against COVID 19)
  • True threats (impeachment threats from Dec 2016 - Mar 2017)
  • Treason (Dem's supporting China's anger at the trade war or even Dem's anger over Soleimani's death) 
  • Solicitations to commit crimes (filing false docx in the FISA Courts)

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Tdot said:

Actually I respect where you are going, but no, it does not apply here IMHO. Since this specific case is regarding the Dems' antics since Jan 2017.

For example, here are a list of things not protected by the 1st Amendment ---which the Dems are guilty of regarding President Trump:

  • Obscenity
  • Fighting words (Pelosi antics)
  • Defamation (including libel and slander)
  • Perjury (House impeachment hearings and subsequent witness tampering)
  • Blackmail
  • Incitement to imminent lawless action (Dem's politicizing the nation's fight against COVID 19)
  • True threats (impeachment threats from Dec 2016 - Mar 2017)
  • Treason (Dem's supporting China's anger at the trade war or even Dem's anger over Soleimani's death) 
  • Solicitations to commit crimes (filing false docx in the FISA Courts)

 

 

Just because a political party does things you don't like doesn't mean they are to be outlawed. Banning political parties is a violation of the first amendment and if a political party violates the first amendment, that doesn't change the equation and make outlawing them not a violation of the first amendment. Such measures would never get past the SCOTUS.

Just because the other side doesn't respect the first amendment does not give you a pass because you don't respect it. Stooping to their level is bad juju, and in this case you are one upping them and stooping even lower than them with this proposed course of action.

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They should be punished for some of their shenanigans, but not disbanded.

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4 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Just because a political party does things you don't like doesn't mean they are to be outlawed. Banning political parties is a violation of the first amendment and if a political party violates the first amendment, that doesn't change the equation and make outlawing them not a violation of the first amendment. Such measures would never get past the SCOTUS.

Just because the other side doesn't respect the first amendment does not give you a pass because you don't respect it. Stooping to their level is bad juju, and in this case you are one upping them and stooping even lower than them with this proposed course of action.

Just because a political party does illegal acts not protected by the first amendment, doesn't mean we should pretend their acts get protection by the first amendment.

When a group breaks laws, then the group should be outlawed. Banning political parties is not a violation of the first amendment, when the political parties broke the laws.

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21 hours ago, Tdot said:

 ...hmmmm..

How much better prepared and immobilizing for COVID-19, would the USA had been? If the Fed GOVT/Congress, had not been tied up with the Dem's investigations and hoax impeachment hearings plus the awesome Senate trial processes, from Nov-early Feb??

Given the bloated orange idiot in charge ignored everything about the virus for months, your question seems pointedly silly. And even HE says he wouldn't have done anything different about the virus if the impeachment trial wasn't on.

21 hours ago, Tdot said:

Should the USA citizens immediately outlaw the Dem party? What say you?

No, it should immediately outlaw morons from running for official office.

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1 hour ago, Argus said:

 the bloated orange idiot

Namecalling is not welcomed here, especially if you are still desperately hoping to overturn the 2016 U.S. Presidential election. Moreover, you should be fair here and provide proof provide evidence that President Trump/the USA Fed GOVT "ignored everything" at anytime whatsoever since November when the news broke.

A nation or a GOVT being inexperienced (while creating a strategy) on how to act, upon a crisis never seen before, is not hardly the same as "ignored everything" if we keep it honest here.  Therefore I'll be waiting for you to validate your bizarre claim you made here.

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4 minutes ago, Tdot said:

Namecalling isnot welcomed here,

I wasn't namecalling. I was describing him accurately.

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especially if you are still desperately hoping to overturn the 2016 U.S. Presidential election. Moreover, you should be fair here and provide proof provide evidence that President Trump/the USA Fed GOVT ignored anything at anytime whatsoever since Novemeber when the news broke.

Uhmm, no, I don't have to prove a negative. If you disagree then you simply have to show what they did.

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A nation or a GOVT being inexperienced (while creating a strategy) on how to act, upon a crisis never seen before, is not hardly the same as "ignored everything". 

Creating a strategy? The fat orange man said there was no need. The countries that actually acted on it were busy setting up tracing systems, buying PPE gear, and preparing for what was to come.,

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36 minutes ago, Argus said:

I wasn't namecalling. I was describing him accurately.

Uhmm, no, I don't have to prove a negative. If you disagree then you simply have to show what they did.

Creating a strategy? The fat orange man said there was no need. The countries that actually acted on it were busy setting up tracing systems, buying PPE gear, and preparing for what was to come.,

Get back to me when you have proof have evidence that President Trump "ignored everything" yes pal since you made that claim then it is your responsibility to prove it, not mines.

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On 3/31/2020 at 10:01 PM, Tdot said:

 ...hmmmm..

How much better prepared and immobilizing for COVID-19, would the USA had been? If the Fed GOVT/Congress, had not been tied up with the Dem's investigations and hoax impeachment hearings plus the awesome Senate trial processes, from Nov-early Feb??

 

Should the USA citizens immediately outlaw the Dem party? What say you?

I say only a Russian spambot looking to get negative attention would posit such an opinion. I would also state Rocky and Bullwinkle are not interested in Natasha and although your leader hates gays they are considered a nice couple here in Frostbite Falls. Like I said, Dudley Doright retired and he ain't comin out of retirement to chase Boris.

You done?

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3 hours ago, Rue said:

I say only a Russian spambot looking to get negative attention would posit such an opinion. I would also state Rocky and Bullwinkle are not interested in Natasha and although your leader hatescgays try are considered a nice couple here in Frostbite Falls. Like I said, Dudley Doright retired and he ain't comin out of retirement to chase Boris.

You done?

I regret to inform you sir, that your massive misery and nefarious narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

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43 minutes ago, Tdot said:

I regret to inform you sir, that your massive misery and nefarious narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

......lol...just stand outside naked..that will work faster....

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20 minutes ago, Rue said:

......lol...just stand outside naked..that will work faster....

Again...I regret to inform you sir, that your massive misery and nefarious narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

 

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7 minutes ago, Tdot said:

Again...I regret to inform you sir, that your massive misery and nefarious narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

 

..or you could just turn yourself in...

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On 3/31/2020 at 8:01 PM, Tdot said:

 ...hmmmm..

How much better prepared and immobilizing for COVID-19, would the USA had been? If the Fed GOVT/Congress, had not been tied up with the Dem's investigations and hoax impeachment hearings plus the awesome Senate trial processes, from Nov-early Feb??

 

Should the USA citizens immediately outlaw the Dem party? What say you?

I say that you are a propagandist seeking to present a false case in favor of the arrogant right-wing BELIEF in doing anything it takes to reach your goal. 

While the left tends to be overly PC, the right PRETENDS to be promoting 'news' that their own philosophy intrinsically believes SHOULD be manipulated, contrary to the claims. If you believe in free competition in ideas regardless of HOW you behave, then YOU believe IN manipulation as a justified behavior. So either present how you are NOT intending to falsely present a case, or provide distinct proof of something that the right-wing actually is against in principle that the Democrats are violating.

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22 minutes ago, Rue said:

..or you could just turn yourself in...

 

 

Again...I regret to inform you sir, that your massive Misery and your nefarious Narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

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Scott welcome to my world.  Its full of smoke  and mirrors but in the  end you always figure it out...the smell if collognecgives it away...lol...

18 minutes ago, Tdot said:

Again...I regret to inform you sir, that your massive Misery and your nefarious Narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

..or you could retire...cuz you suck at this man...I much preferred the good old days with Pravda...now Leonid was quite something...he had flammable bowels..he was smoking one of those stinky Russian cigarettes getting a colonic and boom the methane and his cigarette went kaboom..his eyebrows never grew back right...go figure...now that  said you done...this is Frostbite Falls Boris....no Capt. America here for the Red Skull ...just a bunch of beavers and moose. The plural of moose is moose. Go figure that too.

Stop Russian

Slow down

 

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36 minutes ago, Scott Mayers said:

I say that you are a propagandist seeking to present a false case  

According to this logic, all truth is propaganda. So please, provide evidence that somehow now 'the truth' is meaningless if someone can run up claiming that it is propaganda.  

And while you are at it, please show where I presented a false case here.  I welcome your treasure trove of evidence.

For example, what is false about the Dems filed false docs with the FISA Court, to get the Mueller investigation launched?

What is false about Dems (and you) being okay with Biden corruption in Ukraine ---even to the point of (illegally) impeaching Trump, for exposing the corruption? Illegally, as in, for almost 15 years now it is specific USA-Ukraine foreign policy to expose corruption. But, Trump got impeached for it ---and you are okay with that?

And tell me..What is false about me highlighting the message which Pelosi sent to the world, about North American disunity, when during the USA SOTU she sat behind Trump ripping up his speech?? ISIS was watching and BRICs nations were too.

 

If you can't disprove the facts, then how is it you desire a treacherous anti-Democracy group to lead your nation?

 

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doing anything it takes to reach your goal. 

And what is that goal, which you have defined for me? 

 

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On 4/1/2020 at 1:03 AM, Tdot said:

Actually I respect where you are going, but no, it does not apply here IMHO. Since this specific case is regarding the Dems' antics since Jan 2017.

For example, here are a list of things not protected by the 1st Amendment ---which the Dems are guilty of regarding President Trump:

  • Obscenity
  • Fighting words (Pelosi antics)
  • Defamation (including libel and slander)
  • Perjury (House impeachment hearings and subsequent witness tampering)
  • Blackmail
  • Incitement to imminent lawless action (Dem's politicizing the nation's fight against COVID 19)
  • True threats (impeachment threats from Dec 2016 - Mar 2017)
  • Treason (Dem's supporting China's anger at the trade war or even Dem's anger over Soleimani's death) 
  • Solicitations to commit crimes (filing false docx in the FISA Courts)

These things are all true to some extent, but banning the Demmies makes the US a basic dictatorship lol. 

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Treacherous?  Wow. You think anyone in the West uses that  word? Ahahah. 

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17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

These things are all true to some extent, but banning the Demmies makes the US a basic dictatorship lol. 

A dictatorship?! For banning a lawless, treacherous group?!!!

<yikes!> 

sounds like Pakistan or Assyria lol

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

These things are all true to some extent, but banning the Demmies makes the US a basic dictatorship lol. 

With friends like that y'all need to count on us ancient ones to remind you that bein cozy with Vladimir is just like  a bad case of hemmeroids. 

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19 minutes ago, Rue said:

Treacherous?  Wow. You think anyone in the West uses that  word? Ahahah. 

 

Again...I regret to inform you sir, that your massive Misery and your nefarious Narcissism, have made you indefinitely ineligible to receive meaningful messages from me.

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Just now, Tdot said:

 a lawless, treacherous group?!!!

 Assyria 

...definitely  Russian. 

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