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1 hour ago, New World Disorder said:

That is because we have ACCEPTED it to be this way.  Time to change that.

CNN got caught lying about collusion for 3 years, they were successfully sued by a high school student for defamation of character, and they're enjoying record ratings. Partly because of covid, but people still consider CNN a "News" source.

Anderson Cooper could say he was a dragon and 5 million people would believe him.

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Your title allows these leftists to use it to dismiss everything else you say. But never mind those kind of losers, the questions you have raised are still quite valid. If not conspiracy then surely c

Time for people to use facts and be free thinkers, my point again is when has any government ever had the best interest of the people in mind? They say it was not created in a lab but was being studie

So I've been reading a lot of your post lately, and I have to say... I'm impressed... You're a strong contributor with principals... Keep up the good work.

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I'm starting to think that the only way we're going to stop this, is if millions of people get on the streets and start protesting. What's the government going to do, shoot them all? If people don't start protesting soon, more people are going to die from poverty, than this virus.

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23 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I'm starting to think that the only way we're going to stop this, is if millions of people get on the streets and start protesting. What's the government going to do, shoot them all? If people don't start protesting soon, more people are going to die from poverty, than this virus.

They won't have to shoot you... you'll all be coughing by the end of the day.  

If people are poor, we can just seize the assets of the wealthy to get us through.  Oops... did I make you faint with that ?  :lol:

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29 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I'm starting to think that the only way we're going to stop this, is if millions of people get on the streets and start protesting. What's the government going to do, shoot them all? If people don't start protesting soon, more people are going to die from poverty, than this virus.

They're taking guns away, like every other good totalitarian regime in the past.

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6 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

 

You don't know that. Nobody has determined where it originated. The first KNOWN case was in France.

No. The first case was December 11 in China. The French case you're talking about was December 27.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/heal-the-mind-heal-the-body/202005/was-covid-19-already-in-france-last-december

14 patients were tested. They had flu like symptoms but tested negative for flu. One was an Algerian immigrant whose son had experienced similar symptoms but had not been hospitalized. He was the only one of the 14 who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19.

The French team of Deslandes and Cohen published their results in the International Journal of Antimicrobial agents in early May.

They cautioned:

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 owing to the retrospective nature of the analyses, medical records were not exhaustive and some relevant information might have been missing. Second, we are not able to rule out false-negative results due to the sensitivity of RT-PCR [15] and a technique of storage that may possibly impair the quality of samples [16]. 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920301643

However they believe they took necessary precautions in hopes of avoiding a false negative.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

They won't have to shoot you... you'll all be coughing by the end of the day.  

If people are poor, we can just seize the assets of the wealthy to get us through.  Oops... did I make you faint with that ?  :lol:

Bezos can give 100 Billion away, and he'd STILL be a billionaire. Like he would still have 40 Billion left over.

Zuckerberg made billions using peoples Facebooks data and selling it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-twice-as-wealthy-as-mark-zuckerberg-2020-4

Collectively the top 10 wealthiest people could solve MOST of the worlds problems with their money. But no they all decide to toss in as little as they can. Bezos kicking in 1 to 10 to 100 milllion is chump change to him.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

No. The first case was December 11 in China. The French case you're talking about was December 27.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/heal-the-mind-heal-the-body/202005/was-covid-19-already-in-france-last-december

14 patients were tested. They had flu like symptoms but tested negative for flu. One was an Algerian immigrant whose son had experienced similar symptoms but had not been hospitalized. He was the only one of the 14 who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19.

The French team of Deslandes and Cohen published their results in the International Journal of Antimicrobial agents in early May.

They cautioned:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920301643

However they believe they took necessary precautions in hopes of avoiding a false negative.

Thank you. Clearly, I was wrong and I stand corrected. 

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1 hour ago, ProudConservative said:

I'm starting to think that the only way we're going to stop this, is if millions of people get on the streets and start protesting. What's the government going to do, shoot them all? If people don't start protesting soon, more people are going to die from poverty, than this virus.

Please change your name to a ProudAnarchist 

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10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. "We should not do trade with a country"... that acts in bad faith. "Abruptly working towards stopping, yes. "  So yes you said all trade.

My quote is below.

On 5/11/2020 at 8:44 PM, OftenWrong said:

Abruptly stopping, no. Abruptly working towards stopping, yes. It only makes sense to make changes like that for anything that involves our national security. We must be more self-sufficient. Globalism is a failure. Now let us not fall into the same stupidity as though we might expect a different outcome. You know what that means. Insanity

I hope I need not repeat that any more. I find the rush to answer in haste makes one stumble over the reading, thinking, and intelligent responding.

The rest of all that you wrote, I have no interest in bickering back and forth over those. I apologize that I cannot address every point you have raised. It does not matter anyway. Do not make this about me, I never said I am mad at China, I said practically the whole world is. And the longer the quarantine goes, the more that resentment has time to build.

... And a little old US propaganda to help it along never hurt neither, you know what I'm saying? ;)

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2 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

1. Bezos can give 100 Billion away, and he'd STILL be a billionaire. Like he would still have 40 Billion left over.  Zuckerberg made billions using peoples Facebooks data and selling it.

2. Collectively the top 10 wealthiest people could solve MOST of the worlds problems with their money. But no they all decide to toss in as little as they can. Bezos kicking in 1 to 10 to 100 milllion is chump change to him.

 

 

1. Let's do it !!!
2. Revolution !!!

Maybe this new brand of rightie is ok after all....

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1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

1.I hope I need not repeat that any more. I find the rush to answer in haste makes one stumble over the reading, thinking, and intelligent responding.

2. The rest of all that you wrote, I have no interest in bickering back and forth over those. I apologize that I cannot address every point you raise. It does not matter anyway. Do not make this about me, I never said I am mad at China, I said practically the whole world is. Longer the quarantine goes, the more that resentment has time to build.

3. And a little old US propaganda to help it along never hurt neither, you know what I'm saying? ;)

1. No worries, I have the same problem.  Your quote was ambiguous to me but now I get the meaning
2. Fair enough.
3. I still want to make CanadAlbania when we have time some weekend...

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2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

... And a little old US propaganda to help it along never hurt neither, you know what I'm saying? ;)

 

Canada longs for the good old halcyon days of just anti-U.S. propaganda when nobody got a virus and died.

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On 5/12/2020 at 10:23 AM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Let's not use the term 'cheap goods'.  There are a host of imports and services at play.  Do you think iPhone's are 'cheap' ?  I don't.  I had a ZTC phone.
2. Trump did the trade war with China.  Did he attach 'conditions' and what were they ?  Did they stop this from happening ?  Do you think Canada could be harder than Trump was ?
3. It's not difficult to understand but it's not done.  For SOME REASON it's very rare for business interests, uh sorry "trade negotiators" to be interested in enshrining labour and environmental rights.  
4. Again, one dimensional take on this... 'cheap imports'.  Something else I just thought of: Real Estate investments.  Every Canadian home owner could be impacted by China pulling out of real estate.  In fact, the scale of the impact can't be estimated accurately.
5. Too dramatic.  We have traded with people as bad or worse than China in the past... we can do better but we aren't going to walk away from this relationship.
 

 

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1. Oh do let us use the word cheap, as well as  the words unsafe, defective, hazardous and crap.  Don't kid yourself as to who you are sleeping with.

2. Blaming Trump for starting trade war with China is like when you tried to blame what was her name.. for that child you had back in Lima in 1965..she did have some help from you and it was a business transaction that needed more than 1 participant.

3.,4.,5. Nothing melodramatic going on about what China does to countries, i.e., ..see no.2. 

China is spreading diseases. You get into bed with her you better use a rubber Mr. Harder.

Disclaimer

The above was only a fictional analogy. Any actual resemblance to the Sir Michael Harder on this forum or  Senora Lolita Chi Chi Guevera of Tijihuana,  Mexico are coincidental and unintended.

 

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On 5/12/2020 at 9:12 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Let's do it !!!
2. Revolution !!!

Maybe this new brand of rightie is ok after all....

A wealth tax is in order. These dolts don't pay any taxes and yet leech off the infrastructure that the people for pay via taxes.

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13 hours ago, ProudConservative said:

Alex Jones is on a roll. They didn't take this video down yet!

 

What is with the hero worship? Are you that easily seduced?  Man the only person who could do that to me was Diana Rigg from the Avengers no not those Avengers...go look up Mrs.Emma Peel.  

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13 hours ago, ProudConservative said:

Alex Jones is on a roll. They didn't take this video down yet!

 

The video is gone. Youtube has been very active in scrubbing their platform with any videos that they deem unfit. It's actually an AI that is doing most of the work, which Youtube stated a couple months back. 

Massive censorship via Youtube, Google, Twitter,  Facebook ... ect.

Still have not take down the WHO's own twitter posts saying that no human to human transmission. They posted that simply because China said there was none.

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8 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

The video is gone. Youtube has been very active in scrubbing their platform with any videos that they deem unfit. It's actually an AI that is doing most of the work, which Youtube stated a couple months back. 

Massive censorship via Youtube, Google, Twitter,  Facebook ... ect.

Still have not take down the WHO's own twitter posts saying that no human to human transmission. They posted that simply because China said there was none.

Here's today's video

 

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This is looking more and more like a plandemic everyday.

In January, We have the Crisis in Wuhan... Trudeau says... The risk to Canadians is low... So go eat at those Chinese resturants, and "Don't be Racist"... While allowing thousands of Chinese to fly into Canada with no tempurature checks.... No self-issolation.

In Febuary we have a 3 week railroad blockaid (race baiting in Canada), Trudeau did nothing to stop the proffesional agitators... While the virus spreads to Iran and Europe.

In March... Government Panics... Nobody go to school. Nobody can have there business open...

In April... Take the lockdowns harder... Fine everyone for walking their dogs.

In May, Ok we might open a few stores... but lets not get ahead of outselves... Will do it slowwwwly

In June.... Lets have a Racial Civil War in the US... and watch Cities burn. Barack Obama tells people that they're oppresed... so they need to rise up and encourages people to protests, but says absolutely nothing to condem the violence, the vandalism, and the billions of dollars of destuction to private propety.

This all seems to me like a divide and conquore strategy to bankrupt western civilizations. The rioting gets people to beg for martial law, protestors tracked, and their civil liberties taken away... all in the name of security.

So what happens in December? Manditory vaccinations, unless you see this Plandemic for what it is... I'm more scared of the vaccine than the virus... So i'm taking a full multivitamen and 50MG of Zinc a day... Trump said take Zinc... You should listen to him.

The only thing I need to get is more vitamen C pills... My grandpa use to take 16 Grams a day... had prostate Cancer for 25 years... That never metastasized. He died of old before the cancer killed him, so im sure 5grams a day... won't harm you... if you can afford to get that much vitamen C.

15 minutes a day outside with my shirt off to get vitamen D

Take my mask off outdoors, and walk by hundreds of people a day at a safe distance....While growcery shopping mask loosly fit, so I can get oxygen. I want to gradually build up my immunity to this virus at a safe distance, so when the second wave hits... I have a better chance at not getting seriously sick.

I don't want to take a vaccine, because they add heavy metals to them, that give you alzheimer's. Vaccines are known to lower your overall immunity, so why damage your immune system, just to get protection against one virus?

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On 4/28/2020 at 8:59 PM, Rue said:

Some illnesses are self explanatory.  We all live in la la land.

We should all be  kept away from anything with a point.

This OP is perfectly safe then...

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I don't believe the initiating causes of the virus are not essentially conspiratorial given virus' pandemics occur regardless. But it could be possible that a 'conspiracy' may indirectly be encouraged, such as 9/11, that though comes from an extreme minority, may have been SOUGHT out to let happen by providing certain honeypots that attract the terrorist events. 

Now given that this happens to favor a justification to vote for more 'socialist' concerns in upcoming elections, I think that the left are no doubt utilizing this in a kind of similar empowerment that Bush had in 2001 to be able to create the Homeland Security, justification for relieving people's rights by excusing these atrocities for intolerant lawmaking, increase in the war machine, and in general, great supporting justification for more Conservative empowerment. That this pandemic will favor the collectives on the Left is definitely being taken advantage of with conspiratorial-like fervor. 

I think this pandemic may also justify the counter-Right extremes as it has the Left and we may be heading toward potential world war ?? I hope not. But some of the extremes are due to a few generations of snow-flaking sensitivities that are going too far. I get the need to slow down the infection as a good tactic but this is or will be used to justify new government systems that trend towards more censorship powers and penalties of 'offence' by special subsets of protected ethnic supremacists against the complementary classes of people most predominantly of North European decent. With the added similar movement of the Extreme Feminism that has become mainstream today, this will effectively prevent the assumed "white culture" by dividing them through sex discrimination. Given half the population of any race are women, by further condemning the male sex most particularly of those who are 'white', this will (and is) successfully preventing any subminorities of this European Caucasian stereotype to become the modern equivalent of the prior AntiSemitic forms of hate of the past. Even the Jews and Spanish are considered non-white today, thus further proving HOW the bias is affecting people who happen to have white colored skin as its only badge needed to identify our conspiratorially-defined 'culture' !? 

I already embraced this lifestyle of home isolation prior to this pandemic and now only hope that at least many being forced to experience this MAY be able to reflect upon this experience in some good way. But I am doubtful this will end well in the near future. I just wish for some big fucking asteroid to come along and finalize our own self-destruction. Maybe the ants can rise to replace our annihilation as the dominant species next? 

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On 5/12/2020 at 9:12 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Let's do it !!!
2. Revolution !!!

Maybe this new brand of rightie is ok after all....

The global economy was melting down already, and then BAM, a pandemic. Three months of lock down and job losses, a spark ignites a movement, mostly peaceful, but there are some taking advantage of the crisis to riot. All while we became victims of the largest transfer of wealth we have ever seen.

 

Now that people are in the streets..... we should be asking the following

If the numbers of COVID-19 do not increase dramatically because of this and we don't have people dying en masse, then we can say we've been lied to. 

If that is the case..... 

I'm Mad As Hell Speech From Network (1976) | Neil Hughes

 

Gonna add something else to consider ...  It took our governments 2-3 months to react to the virus. A week in the USA to bring in the riot cops. Don't think that cannot happen in Canada if things get a little out of control. And if it does, watch out for those anomalies.

Want to know where the money is spent? Very well equipped police in riot gear, and the abysmal broken cheap PPE goes to the doctors and nurses.

 

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