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its just been as plain as day, Trump won't go out of his way to save any of his past cronies who are currently wearing orange jumpsuits. but when Flynn or Stone are brought up... he goes ape shit. very nervous.

‘Dirty, filthy cops’: Trump blasts Michael Flynn investigation after new FBI documents released

this is all just part of the set up... to pardon them before they see cell bars. because if they sing then Trump is toast.

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3 hours ago, godzilla said:

its just been as plain as day, Trump won't go out of his way to save any of his past cronies who are currently wearing orange jumpsuits. but when Flynn or Stone are brought up... he goes ape shit. very nervous.

‘Dirty, filthy cops’: Trump blasts Michael Flynn investigation after new FBI documents released

this is all just part of the set up... to pardon them before they see cell bars. because if they sing then Trump is toast.

Wow, your thread title is just an example of putting an extremely negative spin on Trump for something that the FBI did wrong. 

The FBI laid a perjury trap on Flynn, then he was bled dry in court fighting, then they threatened to put his son through the exact same thing that they put Flynn through unless he pled guilty to perjury at the aforementioned trap.

The Dem lackeys at the FBI who set up Flynn are in the crosshairs of the AG. This is just another sad crime committed by the FBI in their plot to unseat a duly elected President. 

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20 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The FBI laid a perjury trap on Flynn, then he was bled dry in court fighting, then they threatened to put his son through the exact same thing that they put Flynn through unless he pled guilty to perjury at the aforementioned trap.

 

yep, thats what they do and we should all be happy that all levels of policing involve such tactics in the US and Canada. and the reason they do it is because the guilty are the only ones who will lie under such circumstances. got nothing to be guilty of, no reason to lie! its the law that one will not lie to the FBI, if its not cool then Congress should strike the law! no plans for that i can see even from Republicans. i don't even see Trump touting such a change to the legal system.

funny that, isn't it? Trump says they are dirty cops and yet they are following the rules. rules that Trump must support as he's made no effort to strike those laws. all he has to say to the American public is... its OK to lie to the FBI! lie away all you like to the FBI, Congress and the Senate! fill you boots! how well do you think that will go over with the voting public?

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30 minutes ago, godzilla said:

yep, thats what they do and we should all be happy that all levels of policing involve such tactics in the US and Canada. and the reason they do it is because the guilty are the only ones who will lie under such circumstances. got nothing to be guilty of, no reason to lie! its the law that one will not lie to the FBI, if its not cool then Congress should strike the law! no plans for that i can see even from Republicans. i don't even see Trump touting such a change to the legal system.

funny that, isn't it? Trump says they are dirty cops and yet they are following the rules. rules that Trump must support as he's made no effort to strike those laws. all he has to say to the American public is... its OK to lie to the FBI! lie away all you like to the FBI, Congress and the Senate! fill you boots! how well do you think that will go over with the voting public?

They're not following the rules, that's why the verdict against Flynn will be vacated. 

Trump doesn't have to change the laws, once it's proven that the FB acted in the manner they did you'll see what the rules actually are.

You don't think Hillary got caught lying over and over? She literally said "I don't remember" dozens of times. She pretended to have fallen backwards onto the stairs and bumped her head. Memory trouble. But, miraculously, it didn't affect her memory on the campaign trail.

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On 5/1/2020 at 1:37 PM, WestCanMan said:

They're not following the rules, that's why the verdict against Flynn will be vacated. 

Trump doesn't have to change the laws, once it's proven that the FB acted in the manner they did you'll see what the rules actually are.

You don't think Hillary got caught lying over and over? She literally said "I don't remember" dozens of times. She pretended to have fallen backwards onto the stairs and bumped her head. Memory trouble. But, miraculously, it didn't affect her memory on the campaign trail.

again, its illegal to lie to the FBI. Stone and Flynn should have said that they didn't remember. they didn't, they chose to lie. they chose to cover up.

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On 4/30/2020 at 4:02 PM, godzilla said:

its just been as plain as day, Trump won't go out of his way to save any of his past cronies who are currently wearing orange jumpsuits. but when Flynn or Stone are brought up... he goes ape shit. very nervous.

‘Dirty, filthy cops’: Trump blasts Michael Flynn investigation after new FBI documents released

this is all just part of the set up... to pardon them before they see cell bars. because if they sing then Trump is toast.

There is no dirt.  There never was.  You’re a fool.

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3 hours ago, Shady said:

There is no dirt.  There never was.  You’re a fool.

then why did they lie? in Stone's own words he was engaged in covering something up that would "look really bad" for Trump. what is this thing that Flynn, Manafort and Stone are willing to go to jail for so that people don't know?

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19 minutes ago, godzilla said:

then why did they lie? in Stone's own words he was engaged in covering something up that would "look really bad" for Trump. what is this thing that Flynn, Manafort and Stone are willing to go to jail for so that people don't know?

I don’t know if they lied or just didn’t remember.  If they did lie, it was probably because of the rabid McCarthyism being pushed by the Democrats and the mainstream media.  If you even looked at a person from Russia you were in Putin’s pocket!  It was all so absurd and embarrassing.

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10 minutes ago, Shady said:

I don’t know if they lied or just didn’t remember.  If they did lie, it was probably because of the rabid McCarthyism being pushed by the Democrats and the mainstream media.  If you even looked at a person from Russia you were in Putin’s pocket!  It was all so absurd and embarrassing.

Democrats? the media? same old foils that aren't even participating. this is Trumps own administration... the FBI that is performing the role that it has always performed.

funny that you bring up McCarthyism though... according to Wikipedia, McCarthyism started with "President Harry S. Truman's Executive Order 9835 of March 21, 1947, required that all federal civil-service employees be screened for "loyalty"."

where have we heard a president asking for "loyalty" before?

irrespective, Stone and Flynn remembered a lot of things... not just "this thing" where they met numerous times with Russians or people with Russian connections or with Wikileaks people etc... and a jury decided that forgetting so many particular things about a particular subject was... well, a child can figure that out.

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Just now, godzilla said:

Democrats? the media? same old foils that aren't even participating. this is Trumps own administration... the FBI that is performing the role that it has always performed.

funny that you bring up McCarthyism though... according to Wikipedia, McCarthyism started "President Harry S. Truman's Executive Order 9835 of March 21, 1947, required that all federal civil-service employees be screened for "loyalty"."

where have we heard a president asking for "loyalty" before?

No, the FBI isn’t preforming a usual role.  They’ve already been caught corrupting the FISA process, a federal judge read them the riot act for their abuses.  Flynn was the latest casualty in their corruption.  This is tantamount to how the secret police acted in East German, the Soviet Union and in Nazi Germany.  You should be disgusted, not applauding it.

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2 minutes ago, Shady said:

No, the FBI isn’t preforming a usual role.  They’ve already been caught corrupting the FISA process, a federal judge read them the riot act for their abuses.  Flynn was the latest casualty in their corruption.  This is tantamount to how the secret police acted in East German, the Soviet Union and in Nazi Germany.  You should be disgusted, not applauding it.

the innocent have nothing to worry about.

there is nothing secret about a jury of peers finding you guilty.

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8 minutes ago, godzilla said:

the innocent have nothing to worry about.

there is nothing secret about a jury of peers finding you guilty.

A jury didn’t find him guilty.  You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.  Good bye.

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9 minutes ago, godzilla said:

the innocent have nothing to worry about.

there is nothing secret about a jury of peers finding you guilty.

 

There is plenty secret about the prosecution withholding evidence at trial and/or from a judge.

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

There is plenty secret about the prosecution withholding evidence at trial and/or from a judge.

cite.

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3 minutes ago, godzilla said:

cite.

 

Cmon....but if you insist on the obvious:

 

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The Federal Bureau of Investigations withheld “stunning” exculpatory evidence in the case of President Donald Trump’s former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn at the behest of FBI Director Christopher Wray, the Daily Caller reported Friday.

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/04/26/report-fbi-director-wray-behind-suppression-of-stunning-exculpatory-evidence-in-flynn-case/

 

 

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13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The Federal Bureau of Investigations withheld “stunning” exculpatory evidence in the case of President Donald Trump’s former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn at the behest of FBI Director Christopher Wray, the Daily Caller reported Friday.

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/04/26/report-fbi-director-wray-behind-suppression-of-stunning-exculpatory-evidence-in-flynn-case/

 

hilarious! "exculpatory evidence"?

the FBI knew that if they asked Flynn specific questions that he would lie... because they knew something was up. and thats supposedly a "dirty cop" trick. exculpatory?

here is another cite, claiming the same thing as "exculpatory".
Exculpatory Russia evidence about Mike Flynn that US intel kept secret

and yet

"By his own admission, he misled the FBI and Vice President Pence about the fact that sanctions did come up in a December 2016 conversation with Kislyak, then Moscow’s ambassador to the United States. He didn’t file proper foreign-lobbying paperwork for money he received from Turkish sources."

and this from the guy who is to be lead intelligence official in the US government.

if Trump wants to pardon him then he can do so. he can make that statement to the American people. that all of that is cool. but he doesn't, they are trying to find some way out!

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13 minutes ago, godzilla said:

hilarious! "exculpatory evidence"?

the FBI knew that if they asked Flynn specific questions that he would lie... because they knew something was up. and thats supposedly a "dirty cop" trick. exculpatory?

 

Besides the point as you try and avoid the obvious....why was the evidence withheld at all ?    That is the point here.

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6 hours ago, godzilla said:

again, its illegal to lie to the FBI. Stone and Flynn should have said that they didn't remember. they didn't, they chose to lie. they chose to cover up.

That's the lamest, weakest argument I've ever heard in my life.

The FBI are lying, worthless, deceitful pieces of shit, their own emails prove it and the farcical Russian collusion investigation proved it. It's not something that's even up for debate anymore, it's a sad, proven fact.

If Comey and Strzok don't end up doing actual jailtime then the integrity FBI will be gone forever.

https://time.com/magazine/us/5264136/may-14th-2018-vol-191-no-18-u-s/

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9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Besides the point as you try and avoid the obvious....why was the evidence withheld at all ?    That is the point here.

internal FBI tactics are evidence? is that routine? no. its not even important. yes, the FBI tries to nab the bad guys... who lie about their dealings with countries that the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee has confirmed was attempting to illegally influence the election.

remember, Flynn confessed. Stones emails were obvious... not to mention the witness tampering stuff. don't want trouble with the cops? don't break the law.

again, Trump just needs to say it. say it out loud. its ok the lie to the FBI! he won't. its ok to tamper with witnesses! he won't. its ok to take money from foreign governments. he won't.

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Sorry folks.   Still learning the  tool s of tis forum.   Did not mean to shout.  

Charges against Flynn Dropped.  

No reel surprise.  as everything is"unusual  "  in the circle of Trump.

 

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Pacifica 77  is called out by me as spam .

You won't see it again. Gee I wonder why.

 

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On 5/4/2020 at 9:32 PM, WestCanMan said:

That's the lamest, weakest argument I've ever heard in my life.

The FBI are lying, worthless, deceitful pieces of shit, their own emails prove it and the farcical Russian collusion investigation proved it. It's not something that's even up for debate anymore, it's a sad, proven fact.

If Comey and Strzok don't end up doing actual jailtime then the integrity FBI will be gone forever.

https://time.com/magazine/us/5264136/may-14th-2018-vol-191-no-18-u-s/

Its spam Wes. There is no one on the other side. Its a programmed  script fed out.

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On 5/4/2020 at 6:59 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Besides the point as you try and avoid the obvious....why was the evidence withheld at all ?    That is the point here.

The point is you are responding to a script designed to troll and incite anti American sentiment.  There is no one on the other end reading what you send out.

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On 5/4/2020 at 6:28 PM, godzilla said:

cite.

Cite? You don't even have the decency to disguise your programmed scripts anymore and you ask for cites? Lol

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