God given rights. Do you really have any?

[French Patriot 32]

God given rights. Do you really have any?

 

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

 

When a right is given to us by governments, they assume and have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. If governments do not accept and do this enforcement duty, then citizens have a corrupted government.

 

If a right is given to a soul, by god, he would have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. The fact that they often are, indicates that he is shirking his duty.  

 

To me, rights are like laws, completely useless and worthless unless they can be enforced by a given power when they are breached.

 

Do you have any real god given rights, or are god given rights just a feel-good lie that we tell ourselves we have so as to ignore that we have none?

 

Regards

DL

[New World Disorder 41]

God is dead. So, no.

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The notion being that by saying so, we remove 'absolute power' from our own governments.

You decide toward what or whom you would like to give absolute power. I know my response.

[French Patriot 32]

On 5/16/2020 at 1:03 PM, New World Disorder said:

God is dead. So, no.

You know that god is dead, how?

I ask, basically, to see if you know what a logical fallacy is, as you are using one and should not as that is a theist's trick. 

Regards

DL

Edited May 28, 2020 by French Patriot

[French Patriot 32]

On 5/18/2020 at 9:02 AM, OftenWrong said:

The notion being that by saying so, we remove 'absolute power' from our own governments.

You decide toward what or whom you would like to give absolute power. I know my response.

Right now, given Covid-19, my doctor and the medical authorities that advise them.

Your first is insightful, but I do not know if it is true or not.

Regards

DL

[New World Disorder 41]

4 hours ago, French Patriot said:

You know that god is dead, how?

I ask, basically, to see if you know what a logical fallacy is, as you are using one and should not as that is a theist's trick. 

Regards

DL

A logical fallacy is saying that God gave people rights.

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4 minutes ago, New World Disorder said:

A logical fallacy is saying that God gave people rights.

No. That is just an unjustifiable statement and provable lie.

The fallacy would be saying that god did not give us rights.

This link should be all you need. Basically, positive can be proven while negative cannot be proven.

Regards

DL

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1 minute ago, French Patriot said:

No. That is just an unjustifiable statement and provable lie.

The fallacy would be saying that god did not give us rights.

You'd have to prove a god exists before you can claim what I said as a fallacy.

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21 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

You'd have to prove a god exists before you can claim what I said as a fallacy.

Not true. Especially given that I made no such claim.

It is to the one who makes a claim to prove it worthy of belief.

You offer a reverse onus which is just another form of logical fallacy.

Seems you did learn a bit from that link.

Regards

DL

[New World Disorder 41]

1 hour ago, French Patriot said:

Not true. Especially given that I made no such claim.

It is to the one who makes a claim to prove it worthy of belief.

You offer a reverse onus which is just another form of logical fallacy.

Seems you did learn a bit from that link.

Regards

DL

Alright, so you made the claim..  lets see you prove it worthy of believe.

I did not read anything in your links.

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On 5/29/2020 at 4:36 PM, New World Disorder said:

Alright, so you made the claim..  lets see you prove it worthy of believe.

I did not read anything in your links.

What claim?

Regards

DL