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1 hour ago, Shady said:

The glee is conveniently from people who don’t have to worry about their property being destroyed.  I think all of these people need to set their cars on fire today in solidarity for the actions they approve of and champion.  Otherwise they’re complete and utter hypocrites.  Like usual.

And the disgust that poor people are being "victimized" in the name of social justice that's coming from the right is utterly hypocritical.

Conservatives don't care about poor people in the inner city. Remember when Trump called these places shit holes? Suddenly they care about their property and rights because of a politically inconvenient movement. 

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50 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well, you know I'm going to turn this back to the Black Americans' perceptions that cops hate them right ? 

Which black Americans? The ones who are cops themselves... or how about the retired cop who was killed by looters at a pawn shop?

"Black Lives Matter" - can a name be any more racist?

It's the old adage, those who want to help are creating the greater harm. Road to hell, and stuff.

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1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

Which black Americans? The ones who are cops themselves... or how about the retired cop who was killed by looters at a pawn shop?

 

Indeed...."black Americans" are not a monolithic block that universally thinks cops hate them.   In many "black communities", the need and demand for good police services and law enforcement is even higher.   

The Black Panther Party tried this tactic back in the turbulent 1960's and early 1970's....but ultimately lost black support.  

"Kill the Pigs" will only get you so far.

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31 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Which black Americans? The ones who are cops themselves... or how about the retired cop who was killed by looters at a pawn shop?

2. "Black Lives Matter" - can a name be any more racist?

3. It's the old adage, those who want to help are creating the greater harm. Road to hell, and stuff.

1. What is your point ?
2. Or 'Blue Lives Matter' as singling out a career path that isn't the most unsafe.
3. Well my response is: Black Lives Matter.

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1 hour ago, Boges said:

And the disgust that poor people are being "victimized" in the name of social justice that's coming from the right is utterly hypocritical.

Conservatives don't care about poor people in the inner city. Remember when Trump called these places shit holes? Suddenly they care about their property and rights because of a politically inconvenient movement. 

That's another disgusting lie Boges, you're far worse than the person you're falsely accusing.

Trump didn't call the inner cities shitholes because he doesn't care about the people there, he said that they're shitholes because of their awful Democrat mismanagement:

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"His district is considered the Worst in the USA," wrote the presidentSaturday. "As proven last week during a Congressional tour, the Border is clean, efficient & well run, just very crowded. Cumming District is a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess. If he spent more time in Baltimore, maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous & filthy place."

 

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3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

3. Well my response is: Black Lives Matter.

As was pointed out, the Black Lives Matter slogan is entirely racist, and paints a very misleading picture of the state of affairs in the USA.

Ironically the party who promotes that slogan is the one that kills black babies by the truckload. 

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Just now, WestCanMan said:

That's another disgusting lie Boges, you're far worse than the person you're falsely accusing.

Trump didn't call the inner cities shitholes because he doesn't care about the people there, he said that they're shitholes because of their awful Democrat mismanagement:

Yeah blame the politicians that the people vote for, not the people. :lol:

Heck if they vote for Conservative, perhaps these cities will become affluent places like Alabama, Mississippi, Kansas, West Virginia, etc etc etc. :rolleyes:

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The more I look at these protests I realize it is a connection to massive unemployment and economics.

There are lots of young people in the streets, all colors and backgrounds that because the society is moving so fast, business are implementing Artificial Intelligence (therefore cutting employees) and having a sociology major will not get you that far in life, this is a frustration protest. The unfortunate episode with the criminal cop was just the catalyst.  

Even with people that are highly educated, not just the social studies, I have a friend in Quebec he has a degree in Computer Science and can't find a job, he has so much potential yet all he is left with is frustration and staying idle.

Extremism is on the horizon and is very possible. It will all depend on the middle class, either they will go with the social chaos or the system might become fascistic in which case the middle class will make a deal with an authoritarian system to maintain their safety. Both scenarios will be unfortunate. Let's hope it does not come to that. 

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Just now, WestCanMan said:

As was pointed out, the Black Lives Matter slogan is entirely racist, and paints a very misleading picture of the state of affairs in the USA.

Ironically the party who promotes that slogan is the one that kills black babies by the truckload. 

I suggest you go to someone protesting police brutality and tell them that. 

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Just now, WestCanMan said:

As was pointed out, the Black Lives Matter slogan is entirely racist, and paints a very misleading picture of the state of affairs in the USA.

It isn't.  And I'm not pointing fingers here but every person I have seen complain about the slogan seems to be problematic in their and their logic.

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2 minutes ago, Independent1986 said:

The more I look at these protests I realize it is a connection to massive unemployment and economics.

There are lots of young people in the streets, all colors and backgrounds that because the society is moving so fast, business are implementing Artificial Intelligence (therefore cutting employees) and having a sociology major will not get you that far in life, this is a frustration protest. The unfortunate episode with the criminal cop was just the catalyst.  

Even with people that are highly educated, not just the social studies, I have a friend in Quebec he has a degree in Computer Science and can't find a job, he has so much potential yet all he is left with is frustration. 

Extremism is on the horizon and is very possible. It will all depend on the middle class, either they will go with the social chaos or the system might become fascistic in which case the middle class will make a deal with an authoritarian system to maintain their safety. Both scenarios will be unfortunate. Let's hope it does not come to that. 

 

This post is complete conjecture. 

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1 minute ago, Boges said:

This post is complete conjecture. 

Of course, we all have personal opinions, that's why we talk and exchange ideas to calibrate those opinions.

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2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Your evident glee at seeing wanton destruction of civility is duly noted. Once again

My 'glee' once again, is pretty much restricted to laughing at how you bozos react to having your nonsense rubbed in your silly noses. You mentioned my cohort and in the context of the rest of your post cohort appeared to mean everything from a simple lefty to the more complex lefties you mentioned that are masterfully manipulating media and millions of people.  You backpedal and disavow your penchant for conspiracies in one breath and then immediately turn around and talk about radical groups, trained specialists you said, using strategies, techniques, and equipment..against us.

I mean c'mon you must be trying to kid yourself or something. You couldn't disassociate yourself from the nuttier aspects of the ideology you've hitched your wagon to if your life depended on it.

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You are utterly mesmerized by the media. You don't have to tell me anything.

No, I'm utterly fascinated by the big fat buttons your ilk insert into so many of your posts. I'm not trying to tell you anything because you'd never listen - I'm more interested in getting you to say what's really on your mind and pushing the button you always stick out seems to do the trick.

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3 hours ago, Shady said:

The glee is conveniently from people who don’t have to worry about their property being destroyed.  I think all of these people need to set their cars on fire today in solidarity for the actions they approve of and champion.  Otherwise they’re complete and utter hypocrites.  Like usual.

It's always the same with you people - any understanding of why something bad is happening that doesn't conform to your own automatically means support for it.  It's one of your weirder aspects.

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's always the same with you people - any understanding of why something bad is happening that doesn't conform to your own automatically means support for it.  It's one of your weirder aspects.

I'm not listening to anything more you have say until you set your car on fire.  It's easy to advocate for riots when you sit on your ass at home, free of any risk.  You're a domestic chickenhawk.

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7 minutes ago, Shady said:

I'm not listening to anything more you have say until you set your car on fire.  It's easy to advocate for riots when you sit on your ass at home, free of any risk.  You're a domestic chickenhawk.

@eyeball are you advocating for riots and destruction of private property ?? what ?

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32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It isn't.  And I'm not pointing fingers here but every person I have seen complain about the slogan seems to be problematic in their and their logic.

En Englais s'il te plaît?

The slogan illogically implies that black lives don't matter. We're not talking about libs and their abortion policies here, we're talking about police who risk their lives every day to help black people. It's idiotic and racist, and anyone who doesn't understand that is an idiot or a racist.

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36 minutes ago, Boges said:

Yeah blame the politicians that the people vote for, not the people. :lol:

Heck if they vote for Conservative, perhaps these cities will become affluent places like Alabama, Mississippi, Kansas, West Virginia, etc etc etc. :rolleyes:

The people are sucked in by Dem MSM, just like you are. They believe in Russian & Ukrainian collusion, bad Nick Sandman, Dr Ford, and all the other BS that you gobbled up and regurgitated here. 

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3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The people are sucked in by Dem MSM, just like you are. They believe in Russian & Ukrainian collusion, bad Nick Sandman, Dr Ford, and all the other BS that you gobbled up and regurgitated here. 

Yep.  Trump Derangement Syndrome is very real, and destroys people's lives.  

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4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The people are sucked in by Dem MSM, just like you are. They believe in Russian & Ukrainian collusion, bad Nick Sandman, Dr Ford, and all the other BS that you gobbled up and regurgitated here. 

I swear you're a bot, your default response to a discussion about inner cities and poverty is to talk about Brett Kavanah and a kid in a MAGA hat who confronted a FN person. 

Did this conversation break your algorithm? 

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38 minutes ago, Boges said:

I suggest you go to someone protesting police brutality and tell them that. 

Sure, I'll have run out and have a discussion with a mob of irrational, violent morons which requires logic and fairness. 

OTOH, I don't need to. I can have that convo with you and MH, and spare the violence. 

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21 minutes ago, Shady said:

I'm not listening to anything more you have say until you set your car on fire.  It's easy to advocate for riots when you sit on your ass at home, free of any risk.  You're a domestic chickenhawk.

Yeah well get back to us when you've succeeded at infecting yourself with COVID-19.

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17 minutes ago, Independent1986 said:

@eyeball are you advocating for riots and destruction of private property ?? what ?

Apparently.

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