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32 minutes ago, Independent1986 said:

It starts to smell like Karl Marx's dirty bed sheets. Did you know that Karl Marx in his quest to brainwash individuals and turn them into sheep was forgetting to wash his linen ? Just a fun Friday night fact.

Canada is an opportunity for every immigrant, minority, white person to work hard and create a life for their family however in a capitalistic society some people fail, who knows, it might be me next or not, I don't know, maybe then to explain my failures I will turn to agitators like yourself for comfort. I sure hope though, if that happens, to have wisdom and trust myself and keep moving forward. 

Not sure what you're trying to get at it here. Are you calling me a communist? 

I believe we are quite fortunate to be where we are in the world. I am under no illusion that this is the case. This is a secure country with a good functioning system. However, this does not mean that I'm going to turn a blind eye to what has taken place in the past, in order for this country to be formed. I am also not going to turn a blind eye to the issues that our system has created today. 

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Anybody can be racist against any other race, but most people are not racist.  I guess that was what Day was commenting on.  Obviously intolerance goes far beyond mere racism.

I think we have given too many special interest groups a voice, and a stage to be heard, (more on the left side) and now today they are all screaming at the same time, and nobody is really hearing any

Not really.  It sucks if you're a woman, having to compete against biological men.  Trans women (biological men) are breaking all the records previously held by actual women.  They're also taking scho

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36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm comparing the culture within this country, whose history is so deplorable according to you, to the culture which you hold so dear:

What culture do I hold so dear? Whose history is deplorable?

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You're not limiting yourself to talking about where we are and going forward in this thread, you're taking a jab at our past as if it's somehow extremely relevant to the topic of how the left talks/acts in 2020.

It matters what we have done in the past. Let's look at the First Nations population in Canada. Do you not see what our past actions has done to these people today? You think you can suddenly turn the switch and change a culture, because a law was changed?

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm talking about how you act like the culture of islam is beyond reproach and Canada is a huge work in progress.

I don't know WTF you're talking about. When have I done that?

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you want to take the position that Canada needs to try to step up it's game, that's for certain. No country is perfect, no country will ever be perfect, humans are too far from it. This topic just doesn't jive with the first half of the one above, at all. 

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1 hour ago, marcus said:

Sure racist. Try to explain away that one.

Already done that you antisemitic vermin.

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I mean that racist trash will be singled out as our culture, in general, does not tolerate racists like you.

Don't act like you're a part of society as opposed to the dingleberry on its unwashed rectal opening.

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1 hour ago, marcus said:

We need to continue to improve as a society and part of that is by looking at what is wrong with our society and try to improve it.

Sounds very much like a Cultural Revolution. Maybe even leading to a Great Leap Forward.

People on the far Left are always making wishful  plans for when they can be in charge and eliminate wrongthink.

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1 minute ago, Argus said:

Already done that you antisemitic vermin.

Don't act like you're a part of society as opposed to the lint in its unwashed belly button.

Anti Semitism is also racism,  but to some segments of society it's just AOK

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4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's just a matter of time.  And the worst part of it (since I identify as conservative now) is

Such a defeatist attitude can hardly be called responsible, let alone conservative. Why do you identify as conservative now? Perhaps because you've had enough of where liberalism is going, and you no longer can go there with them. It's like being on a sailboat in a strong wind. When the boat wants to tip real hard to the port side, we all need to run over to starboard, or she'll keel over for sure.

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1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

Such a defeatist attitude can hardly be called responsible, let alone conservative. Why do you identify as conservative now?

Probably because the Conservative party no longer has any actual conservative policies, beliefs or leaders.

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20 minutes ago, marcus said:

I'm going to turn a blind eye to what has taken place in the past, in order for this country to be formed. I am also not going to turn a blind eye to the issues that our system has created today. 

So what did you do, you, marcus in the past to feel responsible for these injustices ? What did I do ? This is the talk you hear in social studies courses, where the productivity is at zero. How am I, an immigrant from Eastern Europe responsible ? Because of my skin color ? Even if let us suppose in theory my grandfather was a colonialist,  I am an individual, why should I be judged by the action of another person ? 

So what do you propose we do ? More taxes ? You want to tax the private industry at 99 % so we can resolve these "issues" ? And who should get this money ? What about the minorities and the native Canadians that succeed in life, why are you grouping them together so you can make your point across  ? Lots of people don't listen to the propaganda, they go out and start businesses becoming productive members of society.

“The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.”

 Ayn Rand

 

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Love it - go home blackface  https://twitter.com/schtev69/status/1269000497295290369

 

It's too dangerous to attend QP and Parliament but he can go to a mass rally.  But funny how he has hidden in his cottage for almost 3 months but when there is a photo op and camera’s to pander for votes,  he comes out
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9 hours ago, jacee said:

AND WE HAVE SOME WINNERS! 

Denial of racism among Canadians.

Denial of racism among Canadian police.

Denial of racism in the death of George Floyd. 4

MLW is STILL the racist winner of Canadian discussion boards! 

Cue the deniers 

Q?  If white supremacists truly believe in the supremacy of the white race, the dangers of inter-mingling races, the threats of multiculturalism to the white race ... why do they deny their own racism? Do they not have faith in their own ideology? 

Always a mystery! 

 

Don't forget deniers of the virus!

But then good thing we have you to counter the right-wing madness, with an equal and opposite left-wing madness! It cancels out!

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1 hour ago, marcus said:

What culture do I hold so dear? Whose history is deplorable?

It matters what we have done in the past. Let's look at the First Nations population in Canada. Do you not see what our past actions has done to these people today? You think you can suddenly turn the switch and change a culture, because a law was changed?

I don't know WTF you're talking about. When have I done that?

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Ok Hillary, you don’t know anything. We get it. Why do you yap then? 

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8 hours ago, scribblet said:

I stand corrected. I was aware of preferences, not restrictions.

Racism in hiring is systemic and has to be addressed directly. 

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5 hours ago, ironstone said:

Yes they have been charged, but do you admit they all have the right to a fair trial . 

Of course. That's the point of laying charges, the goal of the protests.

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

As for Stockwell Day's comments,I can't believe he resigned over that. He said absolutely nothing offensive! People can agree or disagree with him, we do have that right,at least for now.It is largely progressives that are intolerant and hateful. Judge someone by the content of their character? Hell no!

Ya, we saw Stockwell Day's character.

End of story.

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3 hours ago, Independent1986 said:

Is Friday night after a long week of work, if you work, my advice would be to relax a little bit. Don't let your emotions overrule your rational thinking because you can end up like her, she will be spending most of her life in prison:

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Oh I don't have to work, dear, nor do I go out at night, but thanks for your concern.  Lol 

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7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Older people just seem to be out of touch as to what is considered acceptable today.

 

Many of them simply thought a few signatures on an online petition would sweep Don Cherry back onto Coach's Corner.  Well, that didn't happen.  As with same-sex marriage, the old attitudes literally die off and all of a sudden there is a new normal.  At one point politicians were glad to be against it, then lo and behold ... they weren't.  

It's just a matter of time.  And the worst part of it (since I identify as conservative now) is that the same young people who have been shut out of economic success by the Boomers will be driven to the far left.  I much prefer classical liberal economics, but the ones that pay the bills, support public services and pay for the environment.  It's the "worst" part because a lot of old right-wing kooks are going to live through the socialist nightmare they themselves created ... for a short time until they go to heaven where Ronald Reagan and Thatcher await them.

Speaking of time and Heaven, Pat Robertson says Heaven is like Kindergarten except it goes on forever. I suspect after quadrillions upon sextillians of googleplexs of singing "Shall We Gather at the River?" even hard-boiled conservatives will be rioting.

As for your identifying as a conservative :lol:.  There is no way you're escaping Beelzebub's fiery pits but I'm pretty sure we'll still be happier than those poor saps and their stupid river.

One more time!  Shall We blah blah blah blah blaaaaah blah....

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3 hours ago, Independent1986 said:

So what did you do, you, marcus in the past to feel responsible for these injustices ? What did I do ? This is the talk you hear in social studies courses, where the productivity is at zero. How am I, an immigrant from Eastern Europe responsible ? Because of my skin color ? Even if let us suppose in theory my grandfather was a colonialist,  I am an individual, why should I be judged by the action of another person ? 

So what do you propose we do ? More taxes ? You want to tax the private industry at 99 % so we can resolve these "issues" ? And who should get this money ? What about the minorities and the native Canadians that succeed in life, why are you grouping them together so you can make your point across  ? Lots of people don't listen to the propaganda, they go out and start businesses becoming productive members of society.

I don't think we need to spend more money. I am not sure why the mention of sympathy and empathy triggers screams of communism and taxes.

There are children who start their lives at a big disadvantage. They start life in poverty and in insecurity and they are not random. Data shows there are specific ethnic/racial groups that have a higher chance of being in poverty. Data also shows that these specific groups have had experienced trauma for at least 1 generation. 

In the U.S., the traumatized group is mostly the African American population. In Canada, it's the First Nations. We know the trauma they have gone through, for more than 3 generations. 

We need to break the cycle. That starts with us accepting that there are children who start their lives at a big disadvantage and then we need to find a way to eliminate that. It is in the best interest of everyone that this happens. 

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Here's CBC, backing Trudeau/Tam/WHO 100%:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-travel-bans-1.5495919

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U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to restrict travel from most European countries to try to contain what he called a "foreign virus" isn't grounded in science and breaks international law, experts say.

Thank you experts, for killing 7,700 Canadians with your "stupidity" [possible treachery].

Here's Global "News", censuring an MP who is smarter than the whole Liberal Party and MSM in Canada:

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Earlier this week, rookie backbench MP and current candidate for Conservative leader Derek Sloan questioned the loyalty of Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, musing aloud if her loyalties were with China over Canada.

The underlying xenophobic sentiment is abhorrent, though that is not the point of this commentary. The crux of what Sloan said in both an initial video posted to Facebook and a subsequent email to supporters — that Dr. Tam was wrong on two specific issues: masks and travel bans — have been echoed by some conservative politicians and even some politicaland opinion journalists.

This stupid bimbo even posted a link to name other Conservatives who were 100% right on this issue while Global was playing stupid, and watching Trudeau's six, while Trudeau was dissing the POTUS (who was also right). 

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10 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Such a defeatist attitude can hardly be called responsible, let alone conservative.
2. Why do you identify as conservative now?
3. Perhaps because you've had enough of where liberalism is going, and you no longer can go there with them.
4. It's like being on a sailboat in a strong wind. When the boat wants to tip real hard to the port side, we all need to run over to starboard, or she'll keel over for sure.

1. It's entirely pragmatic.  Attitudes change over time and we need to be able to retain our core values as this happens.
2. Because human rights, fiscal intelligence and environmental thought have always been core conservative values, and they need some help shoring them up now that Russian-govt-funded extremist shitbirds are attempting to hijack a centrist and founding Canadian ethic.
3. Small l 'liberalism' is actually conservatism so your sentence is an example of the success of the aforementioned shitbirds in infecting our politics. 
4. Some people like to sail with the boat tipped over and claim it's not.  

Conservatives support government solutions to climate change. Conservatives support transgender rights.

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7 hours ago, eyeball said:

1.Pat Robertson says Heaven is like Kindergarten except it goes on forever.
2. I suspect after quadrillions upon sextillians of googleplexs of singing "Shall We Gather at the River?" even hard-boiled conservatives will be rioting.
3. As for your identifying as a conservative :lol:
4. There is no way you're escaping Beelzebub's fiery pits but I'm pretty sure we'll still be happier than those poor saps and their stupid river.

5. One more time!  Shall We blah blah blah blah blaaaaah blah....

1. He's probably thinking of the kindergarten he went to, which probably had no black people.  He's in for a surprise when he finds out heaven isn't segregated. I'm a Christian athiest, so for me the afterlife IS blackness. :lol:
2. Eventually, they get around to every song ever written which by my calculation would talk a million years go get through.  They close out with the infinite version of "sextellions of googleplex of beer on the wall"

3. I care about the environment, trans rights, and Christian values.  Unlike the rainforest-torching, hatemongering, immigrant-killing death cult that poses as conservative these days I think I'm there.  It absolutely kills them when I tell them that, but then again those groups are socially retarded which is too bad really.
4. Christian Athiest over here.  But I am still a Christian, which means I happily destroy the stores of racists and money changers like Our Lord did.
5. We shall.
 

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7 hours ago, marcus said:

We need to break the cycle. That starts with us accepting that there are children who start their lives at a big disadvantage and then we need to find a way to eliminate that. It is in the best interest of everyone that this happens. 

Ok, so you are just acting like an opposition party would. Critique and talking is easy but I want to hear policies, what should we (whatever that means) do ? If you can list some concrete solutions, I am curious. Again you are dismissing the individual and creating an attitude of us and them. 

And I agree about the cycle, on both sides, this reminded of an event that I shared a few weeks ago:

I have a very good friend of mine that I met through a volunteering position. He is native and struggled with substance abuse when he was on the reservation. He mentioned the amount of hatred daily what he heard about the outside world in there prevented him to get help earlier. He moved by himself to Toronto and now he has his own apartment and works a decent job. 

I am extremely happy for him, I joke with him all the time saying that he was lucky that he did not meet any enlightened social studies degree holder that would tell him that society is the reason he was struggling. He does not fully agree with me haha, but hey, that's why this is one of the greatest country on Earth, we are allowed to disagree.

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13 hours ago, marcus said:

We need to break the cycle. That starts with us accepting that there are children who start their lives at a big disadvantage and then we need to find a way to eliminate that. It is in the best interest of everyone that this happens. 

Wrong. You are an "equality of outcome" proponent, which is like rewarding people for being lazy and useless.

If two responsible people work hard together and do all the right things to raise their kids, why should their children be limited to the same opportunities as the 6th child of a dropout party-girl? What would be the point of people going to college/getting good jobs, or working hard if they can just belch out kids that are guaranteed to have every opportunity to succeed? What would stop people from having 17 kids each?

What reason would people have for being responsible parents? 

You're advocating for a nanny state, where parents aren't involved and the government runs every aspect of a child's life. Governments don't do childcare well. Children deserve the individual attention that only family can give.

Strong family units are the core of any healthy community. 

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On 6/5/2020 at 8:56 AM, scribblet said:

It is true to some extent, ask the CBC or the Gov  when they say whites need not apply.   

In the early stages of EE they were very aggressive in hiring and keeping quotas,  and lowering standards,  I remember the Ktchener fire dept. Doing that,doubt I would find s link now. 

The city council in Richmond, BC did the same thing where white firefighters were denied a chance for promotion because of their white skin color. The white firefighters fought back and won. When they use that term called "people of color" that just means that if you are white you are not welcome into their circle of color. A prime example of racism. We are all people of color. Why do I always get the feeling that there appears to be more racism going on against white people these days then nonwhite people? Curious. ;)

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15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Here's CBC, backing Trudeau/Tam/WHO 100%:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-travel-bans-1.5495919

Thank you experts, for killing 7,700 Canadians with your "stupidity" [possible treachery].

Here's Global "News", censuring an MP who is smarter than the whole Liberal Party and MSM in Canada:

This stupid bimbo even posted a link to name other Conservatives who were 100% right on this issue while Global was playing stupid, and watching Trudeau's six, while Trudeau was dissing the POTUS (who was also right). 

I get the criticism of the Canadian government's handling of the situation, especially at the very beginning. However, it's baffling that you somehow believe that Trump got it right. This is why I believe you have credibility issues.

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15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Here's CBC, backing Trudeau/Tam/WHO 100%:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-travel-bans-1.5495919

Thank you experts, for killing 7,700 Canadians with your "stupidity" [possible treachery].

Here's Global "News", censuring an MP who is smarter than the whole Liberal Party and MSM in Canada:

This stupid bimbo even posted a link to name other Conservatives who were 100% right on this issue while Global was playing stupid, and watching Trudeau's six, while Trudeau was dissing the POTUS (who was also right). 

Most of those so called experts and scientists are mostly on the payroll of the likes of Gates to hell and other big corporations. They get paid big bucks to try and fool we the people, and sadly, many of those people can be convinced that the sky is falling down. Our dear political master politicians and the lying media should never be listened to or believed with anything they say anymore because most of it is all just plain lies and bull shit. Our dear leaders pretty much know that all of this china virus was a hoax but yet they went along with the hoax.  Personally think that Tam is a Chinese communist spy. ;)

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