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Not sure if anybody took the time to watch it last night , it was short and sweat, actually impressed it was fairly controlled, no cat fights, yelling or scream, people talking over one another etc....maybe because CBC did not officiate ….it went well much better than the French debate which was more like the traditional political debate we have seen...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservative-leadership-candidates-direct-jabs-squarely-at-trudeau-liberals-in-second-debate-1.4989357

I was watching the morning news on CTV, and was puzzled by their take on the debate, they framed mr Mackay as the winner because he had the best answer to systemic racism....which was one of dozens of topics during the debate. In my opinion , in todays world this topic is NOT the number one issue, nor should it be the key to framing the debate....one would think how are we going to get our economy up and running after covid 19, and creating more jobs, and how are we going to tackle the debt....but also finding solutions to some of the issues highlighted during the pandemic, like supply chain problems with key pieces of medical equipment, PPE, critical medications...what is going to work going to look like , child care, etc... and what about our Seniors homes, what improvements are we going to make in that area....and some where in all of that we have to look at the accusations of systemic racism in all our governmental policies, and departments....but is it really the number one problem here in Canada....

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Would you get a pass in Philosophy at Berkeley if you just scribbled down "I hate pigs, all wimin must be beleved, whit men are gilty of slavory, impeach the orange satin"? It wouldn't surprise m

Not sure if anybody took the time to watch it last night , it was short and sweat, actually impressed it was fairly controlled, no cat fights, yelling or scream, people talking over one another etc...

Which is disappointing, because that's what we're already getting from the current federal government.  Justin Trudeau - master of the bromidic marshmallow toss (I stole that term from the Globe I thi

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I was watching the morning news on CTV, and was puzzled by their take on the debate, they framed mr Mackay as the winner because he had the best answer to systemic racism....which was one of dozens of topics during the debate. In my opinion , in todays world this topic is NOT the number one issue, nor should it be the key to framing the debate....

Zeroing in on the above point, CTV like all media outlets is trendy. It grabs the trend story and runs with it to the exclusion of all others reflecting its short attention span and assuming its audience has the same attention deficit.

Part of this is caused by one simple explanation-it has no one capable of understanding let alone explaining financial issues facing this country. Its too complicated to put into 10 second sound bites.

Its why we elect as our leader a part-time drama teacher born into a trust account where he has never had to work. We do not want to deal with the economy or people who understand it. Its too threatening and/or boring.

This country has serious financial issues. Its bankrupt. Covid 19 has bankrupt all Western nations Cash reserves, interest rates, stock markets, all are unstable because we ave borrowed so heavily we can't pull back the out of control interest rates.

No amount of tax increases can undo our deficit. The only way to survive economically is to literally strip down all governments and budgets and the average Canadian takes for granted the extent of their government services and will not be willing to go on a diet. 

People do not talk about that diet because it scares them.

Instead the size of government budgets remain the same.

The idea you can tell people to stay home indefinitely and can sustain that, is just not realistic.

No politician wants to talk reality-that we have a permanently displaced unemployed work force, most of our employed are under-employed, and those working are often getting paid by tax money.

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Army Guy, you titled this topic wrong. You titled it 'conservative debate' when it should have been "Conservative Party debate'. Because there was really nothing conservative about these people. At least, not MacKay or O'Toole.

Neither presented any new ideas or policies we haven't heard from the Tories for years. Neither wanted to deal with any controversial issues, or issues which would draw controversy, like saying how they would deal with Covid-19 henceforth, or how they would deal with the economy and budget deficit, or health care or natives. They made generalized mouth noises and committed to pretty much nothing. O'Toole did the only 'controversial' thing by refusing to admit Canada was 'systemically racist'. That doesn't mean he doesn't agree, but more likely he's hoping that will get him votes from the right side of the party. He and MacKay are politicians, and neither, so far as I've seen, stands for anything.

 

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1 hour ago, Argus said:

They made generalized mouth noises and committed to pretty much nothing. 

Which is disappointing, because that's what we're already getting from the current federal government.  Justin Trudeau - master of the bromidic marshmallow toss (I stole that term from the Globe I think).  

They're all wet blankets and none of them have a chance at beating Justin unless they actually offer a notable alternative.  

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IMO the best of the  bunch is O'Toole although I would prefer Leslyn Lewis but would like to see her as an MP first. 

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19 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Not sure if anybody took the time to watch it last night , it was short and sweat, actually impressed it was fairly controlled, no cat fights, yelling or scream, people talking over one another etc....maybe because CBC did not officiate ….it went well much better than the French debate which was more like the traditional political debate we have seen...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservative-leadership-candidates-direct-jabs-squarely-at-trudeau-liberals-in-second-debate-1.4989357

I was watching the morning news on CTV, and was puzzled by their take on the debate, they framed mr Mackay as the winner because he had the best answer to systemic racism....which was one of dozens of topics during the debate. In my opinion , in todays world this topic is NOT the number one issue, nor should it be the key to framing the debate....one would think how are we going to get our economy up and running after covid 19, and creating more jobs, and how are we going to tackle the debt....but also finding solutions to some of the issues highlighted during the pandemic, like supply chain problems with key pieces of medical equipment, PPE, critical medications...what is going to work going to look like , child care, etc... and what about our Seniors homes, what improvements are we going to make in that area....and some where in all of that we have to look at the accusations of systemic racism in all our governmental policies, and departments....but is it really the number one problem here in Canada....

I watched it too. 

The media seems to be pushing and manipulating for McKay to be the next leader.  He's the most progressive of all.    

 

I would like to see Leslyn Lewis win, too.   She looks like a rookie but, she can be polished.  She has to be polished.   At least, she's not a career politician -that will be a plus point.  And, she comes across as such, another likeable feature!

In today's world....... being  female, and black, and with her Masters degree on Environment........ not only would that help the CPC  revamp its perceived image as a nestful of supremacists - she's also got a good chance at beating Trudeau.   She carries no unpleasant baggage. 

For starter - the Liberals will be walking on eggshells with their attack ads.....and chances are, Trudeau and his big mouth will be  the Liberal's biggest pitfall.

 

Riding on the current guilt-tripping mode the world is in - she has a very big chance with Canadians (liberals and socialists alike).

 

I urge Conservatives to   SEIZE THIS MOMENT!

 

It will be groundbreaking, and refreshing, to see her as PM.  

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May I add that if Klobuchar has now stepped down as a candidate for Biden's running mate - and had urged Biden to choose a woman of colour - just imagine how that would also play up here in our country!  

 

Her platform is not extreme.  It can be palatable to all Canadians.

 

The liberals/socialists in Canada will be torn with angst.   Will they deny this opportunity to a female, woman of colour?   I bet they will look past other defining ideologies of liberalism and would latch on this.

And......think about our diversed people of colour.   Lewis will become the perfect role-model!

 

We will win this.

 

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2 hours ago, betsy said:

May I add that if Klobuchar has now stepped down as a candidate for Biden's running mate - and had urged Biden to choose a woman of colour - just imagine how that would also play up here in our country!  

 

Her platform is not extreme.  It can be palatable to all Canadians.

 

The liberals/socialists in Canada will be torn with angst.   Will they deny this opportunity to a female, woman of colour?   I bet they will look past other defining ideologies of liberalism and would latch on this.

And......think about our diversed people of colour.   Lewis will become the perfect role-model!

 

We will win this.

 

She will not march in the parade, so that ends it. Sads that a parade decides who becomes PM in this country. Amy was a DA that let that cop that killed that black man go on another charge 8yrs ago, that sunk her. I have been hoping for Val Demings to be picked.

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1 hour ago, PIK said:

She will not march in the parade, so that ends it. Sads that a parade decides who becomes PM in this country. Amy was a DA that let that cop that killed that black man go on another charge 8yrs ago, that sunk her. I have been hoping for Val Demings to be picked.

I don't think not marching in the parade will have any effect this time.

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On 6/19/2020 at 11:24 AM, Rue said:

Its why we elect as our leader a part-time drama teache

Just for the record, Trudeau was a math teach, unlike Jason Kenney who flunked out of University as a philosophy major. What kind of pin head fails philosophy?

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On 6/20/2020 at 5:29 AM, betsy said:

May I add that if Klobuchar has now stepped down as a candidate for Biden's running mate - and had urged Biden to choose a woman of colour - just imagine how that would also play up here in our country!  

 

Her platform is not extreme.  It can be palatable to all Canadians.

 

The liberals/socialists in Canada will be torn with angst.   Will they deny this opportunity to a female, woman of colour?   I bet they will look past other defining ideologies of liberalism and would latch on this.

And......think about our diversed people of colour.   Lewis will become the perfect role-model!

 

We will win this.

 

I think that we will soon be seeing the Canadian fake leftist liberal media trying to push our politically correct politicians into having a person of color(anti-white racism)as the next Prime Mistake of Canada. I mean to not do so will surely show and must mean that Canada is full of white racists. Today in Canada, all white Canadians may well have to bend the knee to people of color one day. It will become mandatory. And the conservative liberal party will be no different. They will be forced to assist in that movement for a person of color(sounds so racist)to become a Prime Mistake of Canada one day. Hey, we never know, eh? ;)

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On 6/19/2020 at 9:06 AM, Army Guy said:

Not sure if anybody took the time to watch it last night , it was short and sweat, actually impressed it was fairly controlled, no cat fights, yelling or scream, people talking over one another etc....maybe because CBC did not officiate ….it went well much better than the French debate which was more like the traditional political debate we have seen...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservative-leadership-candidates-direct-jabs-squarely-at-trudeau-liberals-in-second-debate-1.4989357

I was watching the morning news on CTV, and was puzzled by their take on the debate, they framed mr Mackay as the winner because he had the best answer to systemic racism....which was one of dozens of topics during the debate. In my opinion , in todays world this topic is NOT the number one issue, nor should it be the key to framing the debate....one would think how are we going to get our economy up and running after covid 19, and creating more jobs, and how are we going to tackle the debt....but also finding solutions to some of the issues highlighted during the pandemic, like supply chain problems with key pieces of medical equipment, PPE, critical medications...what is going to work going to look like , child care, etc... and what about our Seniors homes, what improvements are we going to make in that area....and some where in all of that we have to look at the accusations of systemic racism in all our governmental policies, and departments....but is it really the number one problem here in Canada....

All I ever see the so called conservative party ever do is act more like they were just another bunch of liberals dressed up in conservative clothing. Political correctness can be seen drooling out of their liberal conservative butts and down their liberal conservative legs. if Canadians want the same old, same old, then just keep voting for the leftist liberals or the leftist liberal conservative party. All their policies are pretty much the same.

I am still waiting for one of those leftist liberal conservatives talk about real issues like more freedom, less government, and less taxes. Now that is what a real and true conservative is all about and should be talking about. Actually, from all of my observations over the years, I have found that both the liberals and the liberal conservative party's are both controlled puppets on the strings of the deep state globalists. Actually, there is no real liberalism or conservatism at all anymore. There is only deep state globalism now ruling the roost in Canada. Believe it or not. ;)

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On 6/20/2020 at 12:55 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

Just for the record, Trudeau was a math teach, unlike Jason Kenney who flunked out of University as a philosophy major. What kind of pin head fails philosophy?

Just for the record, comrade Trudeau was never good at anything at all. If comrade Trudeau was a math teacher well then he must have flunked that major also. Just look at how and what he has been doing with all of our tax dollars over the past six years? Comrade Trudeau appears to only know how to blow tax dollars willy-nilly rather than is able to save taxes. For a math teacher he sure is bloody stupid at math. Hey, ya'll, look at me, I am a math teacher who only knows how to blow taxpayer's tax dollars, and I do not really give a shit about your tax dollars. I learned that in University. Whoopee me, says Comrade Trudeau. 

Lots of people flunk out of University. So, what's your point here? Why are you picking on Jason Kenney? Because he is a conservative by chance? Bill Gates left school at grade eight and look where he is now. A multi billionaire. He became a multi billionaire without a university degree. Eat that, you. Holding a university degree of some kind is just a status thing for people who like to brag and show off. I did okay in life without a university degree, and I consider myself a lot smarter than most people who have a university degree. Some people who have a university degree are bloody well stupid beyond belief, and many of them are in politics, and are screwing up everything in this country that they touch. University my arse. LOL. 

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On 6/19/2020 at 2:05 PM, Moonbox said:

Which is disappointing, because that's what we're already getting from the current federal government.  Justin Trudeau - master of the bromidic marshmallow toss (I stole that term from the Globe I think).  

They're all wet blankets and none of them have a chance at beating Justin unless they actually offer a notable alternative.  

The only chance that the conservative party has to beat globalist comrade Trudeau in the next election is if the conservative party starts to act more like a real and true conservative party rather than keep acting like they are just another liberal party. The problem is that the conservative party is terrified of the lying Canadian media who will attack and look for any excuse to call them racists or anti-immigrant.

A real and true conservative party will ask the lying leftist liberal media to show some proof as to where the conservative party is supposed to be a racist or anti-immigrant party. But they will not. They think that grovelling and bending the knee to the lying leftist liberal Canadian media will get then brownie media points, and that the media will be nice to them. They never learn from those mistakes and lessons. Why? Because they do not have a real and true conservative leader like Trump. That is what the conservative party really needs as a leader is a Trump like leader, not a grovelling and bending the knee leader. 

Right now, the only real and true party left in Canada today is the PPC and Maxine Bernier. Canada needs a conservative leader like Bernier. But for some unknown and strange reason most conservatives will still vote for the liberal conservative party. I am just not getting their logic at all. Maybe that is because they have no logic left anymore. Hey, we never know, eh? :D

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Peter MacKay the final nail in the coffin of the Conservative Party of Canada.

I did not watch Conservative party debate as the conservatives have no chance of being elected. The bleak records of this party speaks for itself (Mulroney and his unpopular GST or the fact that he was the reason we almost lost our country with Quebec being pushed to separation by his failure) or Kim Campbell (who said to the army of unemployed in 1993 not to call her but she will call them in the year 2000), and Harper (running the most corrupt manipulative government in our history).

It now appears an undemocratic guy by the name of Peter MacKay is the favorite to lead this party who was a major player in the previous corrupt , manipulative, full of scandals Harper government and the manipulative undemocratic manner he pushed the laws into parliament during his tenure. Peter MacKay's election as the leader will put the final nail in the coffin of the Conservative party of Canada.

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One could quickly write a few paras on the shit show that represents all parties both in the past and today.… And for some reason finding a leader that has the qualities it takes to lead a country is hard to find, not sure if thats a reflection on the quality of Canadians or not . Or maybe those with the right qualities are just not interested, or bothered to put in the time and effort..

I think the conservative voting base just wants to end this painful period of Justin Trudeau's reign of power, and would vote for crusty the clown if they had to. I also think there are liberals on this forum that would also like to see what is next other than Justin. ( who's record is far from being perfect, corrupt, deceitful, full of scandals and the list goes on forever)

One day I hope there comes a leader that can unite all of us across the nation, and tackle the tough issues, issues that are best for the country, but not very popular in gathering votes.  that seem to plague our country, or atleast bind it in a ball of red tape. 

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5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

One could quickly write a few paras on the shit show that represents all parties both in the past and today.… And for some reason finding a leader that has the qualities it takes to lead a country is hard to find, not sure if thats a reflection on the quality of Canadians or not . Or maybe those with the right qualities are just not interested, or bothered to put in the time and effort..

I think it's related to the media, which sees it as its sacred duty to unmask every single little thing any politician ever said or did in their lives and treat it as a shocking outrage. And of the way parliament has been turned into a collection of powerless, voiceless sheep under both this and the previous government. What person of real abilities and experience, having created or led large organizations where he or she had genuine power and made tons of money would run for member of parliament? This is a job where everything you say publicly has to be cleared with political apparatchiks from the PMO, where you're given their speeches to speak and release, where you're told what to vote in all committees and on all votes, where you can't even ask a question in the House without permission from your party office. Oh yes, there's the hope, if you're a person of great accomplishment, you could make it into cabinet
. But that depends on a variety of factors involving where you're from and who else is from that area, whether you speak French or are a minority. And even once in cabinet you are still totally at the mercy of the PMO in everything you say or do and can be dismissed for any reason.

Why would an accomplished, confident person used to charting their own course (which is what you need in a leader) bother? To spend years sucking up to your betters in hopes of getting into cabinet, then glad-handing and more sucking up in hopes that some day there'll be a leadership contest and you might stand a chance of getting elected party leader? No, becoming an MP is largely a job for small people of little accomplishment.

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One day I hope there comes a leader that can unite all of us across the nation, and tackle the tough issues, issues that are best for the country, but not very popular in gathering votes.  that seem to plague our country, or atleast bind it in a ball of red tape. 

The closest we've ever come was Kevin O'Leary. And I don't say that because I admire him but because unlike any other leadership candidate now or in the past, he could set a room on fire and excite people. But as long as the political parties insist on bilingualism for the leadership job 95% of Canadians will continue to be screened out of the job.

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13 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Peter MacKay the final nail in the coffin of the Conservative Party of Canada.

I did not watch Conservative party debate as the conservatives have no chance of being elected. The bleak records of this party speaks for itself (Mulroney and his unpopular GST or the fact that he was the reason we almost lost our country with Quebec being pushed to separation by his failure) or Kim Campbell (who said to the army of unemployed in 1993 not to call her but she will call them in the year 2000), and Harper (running the most corrupt manipulative government in our history).

It now appears an undemocratic guy by the name of Peter MacKay is the favorite to lead this party who was a major player in the previous corrupt , manipulative, full of scandals Harper government and the manipulative undemocratic manner he pushed the laws into parliament during his tenure. Peter MacKay's election as the leader will put the final nail in the coffin of the Conservative party of Canada.

 

I don't see McKay  winning against Trudeau.  I simply don't have that vibe at all.

Being a pro-life, having declared himself a solid pro-choice, I can't bring myself to vote for McKay.  I do understand their strategy that they want someone who'll appeal to the centrist population - however,  for me, it's like hitting smack against a wall.  Exacerbated by the fact that he'll whip his MPs and forbid them to vote with their conscience....... I can't get past it.  It's the deal-breaker for me.

I see Leslyn Lewis fitting right in, as the perfect leader in this new "environment" we're  facing today.   She'll win against Trudeau.

 

Leslyn Lewis is the leftists' worst nightmare - all of them parties! -  and that includes the media!

 

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Someone pointed out that Lewis wouldn't be the first person of color to become leader of a political party -there is Jagmeet Singh!  It was pointed out too, that Lewis wouldn't be the first female either - there was Elizabeth May.  Either of the two didn't beat Trudeau.

But I pointed out:   Jagmeet Singh may be a person of color but he is representing a Socialist Party!  Canadians may be socialist-leaning, but they are not into full-pledged socialism!  Added to that is the fact that Singh isn't a woman!

Elizabeth May may be a woman, but she isn't a person of color.  She's also depicted herself as an extremist environmentalist.

 

 

Leslyn Lewis is  black...a  woman....and,  with a degree on Environment.   She is the epitome of three vital liberal issues - all rolled into one package!

 

Here are the reasons why I urge all Conservatives to come together,  and vote for Leslyn Lewis. 

 

Lewis cannot be associated with Harper, Let's exploit that.
Lewis is new. She has no baggage! No scandal, no political gaffes or mud that can be used against her. Let's exploit that.
Lewis is not a career politician. Let's exploit that.
Lewis is not a member of the elite. Let's exploit that.


Lewis is female. Let's exploit that.
Lewis is black. Let's exploit that.
Lewis has a degree on Environment. Let's exploit that.


Lewis has a very positive persona - she doesn't strike me as someone who'll be a "loose cannon."
She is intelligent. She is diplomatic. Dignified. Motherly in stance.

 

She represents all the diversed people of color, and immigrants in this country.  Let's exploit that.

 

There is only one global social issue that's front and center:  systematic racism.   Will Canada deny her (and what she represents) this opportunity? 

 

Because of what she represents (and that, she is also a Conservative).......she will become a UNIFIER for ALL Canadians.

 

Her opponents will have a very hard time attacking her.   They'll be walking on eggshells!  That includes the media!

 

And yes.   She's got her policies.  They are based on conservative values, but she presents them in a diplomatic way.

 

She's all those - in one package!

Let's exploit all that.
 

 

The Conservative Party is the only party that has a contender that has all those that are very relevant in today's world.

We have to seize this moment!

 

 

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There isn't much publicity about her.  For those who wonders about her policies:

 

https://www.leslynlewis.ca/policies

 

 

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Conservative leadership contender Leslyn Lewis sells herself to social conservatives

Conservative Party leadership prospect Leslyn Lewis says she wants to see all Canadians treated with respect, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Lewis, who runs her own law firm and has a PhD in law and a master's in environmental science, has emerged as the first choice of some social conservatives, including the anti-abortion advocacy group Right Now.

In fact, Lewis told CBC News she decided to run for the leadership after watching the way Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer was treated during the last election — and what she called the Liberals' "obsession" with Scheer's refusal to attend Pride parades.

"If you are ready to treat
every Canadian with equal dignity and respect, it doesn't matter whether or not you march in a parade," she said. "That's a personal choice."

The anti-abortion group Right Now is recommending that Conservative Party members rank Lewis first on their ballots, followed by fellow social conservative Sloan. O'Toole — who has said he will defend the right of women to choose but would let MPs vote their conscience on matters like abortion — is ranked third.

Another prominent anti-abortion group, Campaign Life Coalition, has given Lewis "green light" status to indicate she is a candidate worthy of support.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/leslyn-lewis-pride-parade-1.5492123

 

 

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On 6/24/2020 at 5:07 PM, Argus said:

I think it's related to the media, which sees it as its sacred duty to unmask every single little thing any politician ever said or did in their lives and treat it as a shocking outrage.

You people often speak as if the Media was some sort of living conscious being with it's own volition.

Do you imagine the Media is an AI or something?

Is capitalizing the word Media kinda  creepy?

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It is not just about being forced to march in the parade in order to be heard or not have your message shut down..., the entire debate on LGBTQ is off limits, as is abortion, Native Canadians, BLM, police etc....basically any topic that the left holds has one of their holly grails, and it changes rapidly...

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On 6/24/2020 at 2:04 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Peter MacKay the final nail in the coffin of the Conservative Party of Canada.

I did not watch Conservative party debate as the conservatives have no chance of being elected. The bleak records of this party speaks for itself (Mulroney and his unpopular GST or the fact that he was the reason we almost lost our country with Quebec being pushed to separation by his failure) or Kim Campbell (who said to the army of unemployed in 1993 not to call her but she will call them in the year 2000), and Harper (running the most corrupt manipulative government in our history).

It now appears an undemocratic guy by the name of Peter MacKay is the favorite to lead this party who was a major player in the previous corrupt , manipulative, full of scandals Harper government and the manipulative undemocratic manner he pushed the laws into parliament during his tenure. Peter MacKay's election as the leader will put the final nail in the coffin of the Conservative party of Canada.

The conservative party is now just another one of two liberal political party's in Canada. They have one hell of a nerve to be calling themselves conservative. Everything they say these days sounds like they are trying to push the liberal agenda. Conservatives like Harper had a big chance to eliminate as mush liberalism and socialism as he possibly could but yet he did just the opposite. So much for a buffoon who led us all to believe that he was all in favor of more freedom, less government, and less taxes. We got more of those instead. Just like comrade Trudeau, comrade Harper was just another globalist puppet on a string suck. 

Maybe it is time for the liberal and conservative party's to just join forces together and be done with it. Both of them together could really finish off Canada for good. Maybe that is the plan. We never know, eh? ;)

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