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1 hour ago, Argus said:

I think we'd all be more willing to accept high taxes if the roads were in good shape, we had a health care system that didn't require months of waiting to see a specialist, and the justice system worked well.

The Liberal Party of Saskatchewan ran with an election platform of higher taxes for needed infrastructure and to stop the ballooning deficits created by the Conservatives. The Tories and the NDP started a bidding war to see who could promise more spending and lower taxes. It was called the hot tub war for it's lavish promises of subsidized home renovations. The only seat the Liberals  won was the leader's. The NDP defeated the Tory government. Just for the record, I worked on the Tory campaign but I learned nobody ever won an election promising higher taxes or a cut in services. Taxme will never see his vision of government nor will I ever see a restoration of the Canadian Armed Forces nor a powerful Monarch. But I do make a darned fine coffee mug.

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Would you get a pass in Philosophy at Berkeley if you just scribbled down "I hate pigs, all wimin must be beleved, whit men are gilty of slavory, impeach the orange satin"? It wouldn't surprise m

Not sure if anybody took the time to watch it last night , it was short and sweat, actually impressed it was fairly controlled, no cat fights, yelling or scream, people talking over one another etc...

Which is disappointing, because that's what we're already getting from the current federal government.  Justin Trudeau - master of the bromidic marshmallow toss (I stole that term from the Globe I thi

Real Women of Canada endorses Sloan and Lewis. 

 

 

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The ultimate pro-life voting guide to Canada’s Conservative Party leadership race


Pro-life groups are saying there are only two real leadership choices for voters in the Conservative party of Canada: Derek Sloan and Leslyn Lewis

The pro-life group is asking pro-life Conservatives “to vote for Derek Sloan and Leslyn Lewis in the top ballot positions of number one and number two, in whatever order you prefer,” says director of political operations, Jack Fonseca.



It is also urging pro-life Conservatives to leave MacKay and O’Toole completely off the ballot, even though O’Toole is endorsed by Alberta Premier Jason Kenney and Alberta MP Garnett Genuis.


“REAL Women does not recommend that a vote be cast on the ballot for the two Red Tory candidates Peter MacKay and Erin O'Toole. Neither of them is pro-life/family nor can be trusted to take into consideration the social conservative position when making decisions,” the group stated in a press release.

O’Toole and MacKay “do not deserve a vote from pro-life, pro-family Conservatives,” emphasized CLC’s Fonseca.

“It would send the wrong message to all Conservative politicians across Canada, essentially telling them that they can earn our support without giving us anything in terms of meaningful policy.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-ultimate-pro-life-voting-guide-to-canadas-conservative-party-leadership-race

 

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42 minutes ago, betsy said:

And if they get more than 10% of the vote I'd be shocked. Your chose is between O'Toole and MacKay. Which is not, I admit, much of a choice.

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3 hours ago, betsy said:

But if one of them should win the race that does not mean that they will be able to fulfill their promise. That will all be up to the head honchos in the conservative party, and from what I have seen so far coming from the head honchos of the conservative party they mostly appear to want to push liberal socialist programs and agendas that are anti-life.  Real Women of Canada better beware as to who they vote for. They may get what they did not ask for. The conservative party is not a real and true conservative party at all. They only want to talk about and endorse liberal values that will only end up being more of a detriment to Canada than a benefit. ;)

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On 7/2/2020 at 5:06 PM, taxme said:

But if one of them should win the race that does not mean that they will be able to fulfill their promise. That will all be up to the head honchos in the conservative party, and from what I have seen so far coming from the head honchos of the conservative party they mostly appear to want to push liberal socialist programs and agendas that are anti-life.  Real Women of Canada better beware as to who they vote for. They may get what they did not ask for. The conservative party is not a real and true conservative party at all. They only want to talk about and endorse liberal values that will only end up being more of a detriment to Canada than a benefit. ;)

 

The closest to being Conservative who has a real shot at not only kicking Trudeau out, but also winning a majority is none other than LESLYN LEWIS!  

The Conservative Party CAN BE a real conservative party.  Lewis' platform is all conservative though she expresses herself DIPLOMATICALLY (which is practical since we want to win the centrists too)!

 

I urge all conservatives to get united behind Lewis!   She's gaining momentum among non-social conservatives.  She's the ticket to a majority in the next Federal election!  Take my word for it!

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, betsy said:

 

The closest to being Conservative who has a real shot at not only kicking Trudeau out, but also winning a majority is none other than LESLYN LEWIS!  

The Conservative Party CAN BE a real conservative party.  Lewis' platform is all conservative though she expresses herself DIPLOMATICALLY (which is practical since we want to win the centrists too)!

 

I urge all conservatives to get united behind Lewis!   She's gaining momentum among non-social conservatives.  She's the ticket to a majority in the next Federal election!  Take my word for it!

 

 

 

 

Steven Harper was supposed to have been a real and true conservative but what did he do for Canada and conservatism when he was elected the PM with a majority. Harper had a golden opportunity to get rid of the CBC, one of his worse enemies, and he did not. Harper was supposed to believe in freedom of speech, less government and less taxes. Did we get any of that? NOPE. All we got from Harper was just more government, more taxes, and less freedom.  

Take my word for it. If Lewis is a real and true conservative, she will never become the leader of the liberal conservative party. That is the last thing the liberal conservative party wants to do is to have someone who is a real conservative in the party. Take my word for it, she will be going nowhere fast in the liberal conservative party. No one can ever say that Scheer was a conservative. Scheer was a liberal thru and thru. 

The only hope for conservatism to take hold in Canada is to join and vote for the PPC and Maxine Bernier. Come on, Betsy, you only have to look at what the liberal conservative party talks about and what the PPC talks about. Scheer or whomever it will be is a liberal. Bernier is a conservative. There is no other choice. It's either whomever and Bernier. Your call. ;)

 

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On 7/2/2020 at 10:25 AM, betsy said:

What we the people really want to hear from our politicians today is to hear them say to the people that if you vote for me I will cut taxes, cut government/regulations, and fight for freedom and freedom of speech. I will stop all immigration for awhile, and stop all illegal so called refugees from entering Canada illegally, and I will end forced multiculturalism. These are things that real and true conservatives want to hear. And we can have all of those I mentioned above if people like you would vote for and support the PPC party. Otherwise, nothing will change with the liberal conservative party. That I can guarantee you. Real women should be endorsing Bernier instead of any other candidate of any other liberal/socialist party. ;)

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17 minutes ago, taxme said:

What we the people really want to hear from our politicians today is to hear them say to the people that if you vote for me I will cut taxes, cut government/regulations, and fight for freedom and freedom of speech. I will stop all immigration for awhile, and stop all illegal so called refugees from entering Canada illegally, and I will end forced multiculturalism. These are things that real and true conservatives want to hear. And we can have all of those I mentioned above if people like you would vote for and support the PPC party. Otherwise, nothing will change with the liberal conservative party. That I can guarantee you. Real women should be endorsing Bernier instead of any other candidate of any other liberal/socialist party. ;)

Actually, I want to hear them say they will raise taxes.  Someone has to pay for COVID.  I'd also like to see increased regulations, and I would oppose a moratorium on legal immigration.

I'm okay with your other points, especially the freedom of speech. 

Pro life doesn't mean anything in Canada.

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10 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Actually, I want to hear them say they will raise taxes.  Someone has to pay for COVID.  I'd also like to see increased regulations, and I would oppose a moratorium on legal immigration.

I'm okay with your other points, especially the freedom of speech. 

Pro life doesn't mean anything in Canada.

1. Cuckoo-cuckoo. :P

2. Personally, I do not think that you could give a dam about freedom of speech. After all, if you are all for more taxes, increased regulations, and are in favor of more immigration than you have to be cuckoo-cuckoo. Why don't the covidiots pay for the cost of what that fake and phony hoax of a virus has cost the Canadian taxpayer's like me. 

3. Life appears to mean nothing to most people anymore. It is quite strange as to why most people are against capital punishment but are all in favor of abortions. More covidiot like morons. :D

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1. Cuckoo-cuckoo. :P

2. Personally, I do not think that you could give a dam about freedom of speech. After all, if you are all for more taxes, increased regulations, and are in favor of more immigration than you have to be cuckoo-cuckoo. Why don't the covidiots pay for the cost of what that fake and phony hoax of a virus has cost the Canadian taxpayer's like me. 

3. Life appears to mean nothing to most people anymore. It is quite strange as to why most people are against capital punishment but are all in favor of abortions. More covidiot like morons. :D

I do so give a damn about freedom of speech!

I support your right to say cuckoo-cuckoo, even though it makes you look like an idiot.

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9 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I do so give a damn about freedom of speech!

I support your right to say cuckoo-cuckoo, even though it makes you look like an idiot.

Idiotic communists do not give a dam about freedom of speech. Cuckoo-cuckoo. :lol: 

 

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5 hours ago, taxme said:

The only hope for conservatism to take hold in Canada is to join and vote for the PPC and Maxine Bernier. Come on, Betsy, you only have to look at what the liberal conservative party talks about and what the PPC talks about. Scheer or whomever it will be is a liberal. Bernier is a conservative. There is no other choice. It's either whomever and Bernier. Your call. ;)

 

 

Leslyn Lewis is the closest to conservative we're gonna get if  we want to kick out Trudeau/Liberals.   She has conservative values.

Bernier didn't even win his seat in his own turf.  He'll never have a chance.    We'll be stuck with long years under the Liberals again.   

 

 

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‘I don’t hide who I am’: Leslyn Lewis's pitch to conservative voters

She's the first-ever woman of colour vying to lead the Tories and her platform emphasizes fairness within the Conservative Party, a pushback against political correctness and a repeal of Liberal policies

 

Lewis is hoping that her plain-dealing approach will do more than defy her own party’s expectations. “To unite the country, we have to be able to sit across the table from people who don’t think like us and have strong conversations about where our country needs to go for everybody to benefit,” Lewis says.

 

A poll commissioned by her campaign showed that Canadians, writ large, overwhelmingly preferred a Conservative Party leader who fit her description—“Female. Lawyer and entrepreneur. Ph.D. in law and a master’s in environmental studies. Visible minority”—over those of her opponents.

 

Despite being a relative “outsider,” she has secured endorsements from seven MPs.

A cross-section of Conservative sources, including people working on other campaigns, say they are seeing a surge in her popularity. “She’s so articulate, and very intelligent and calm. And she has an understated, powerful way of communicating with people that makes her very relatable,” says Melanie Paradis, who is heading up communications for Erin O’Toole.

 

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/leslyn-lewis-social-conservative-party-leadership-2020/

 

 

"......strong conversations about where our country needs to go for everybody to benefit,”

 

We need that now, more than ever!  She'll unite Canada. 

 

Leslyn Lewis is the one!

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Leslyn Lewis seems like an excellent candidate. Too bad for her she's now been co-opted by the single issue abortion wingnuts, because that will just make everybody else turn away from her. She never had a chance.

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1 hour ago, BubberMiley said:

Leslyn Lewis seems like an excellent candidate. Too bad for her she's now been co-opted by the single issue abortion wingnuts, because that will just make everybody else turn away from her. She never had a chance.

I don't think that will hurt her at all.   It might actually help her, the way she's handling the issue with diplomacy and tact. 

If I'm not mistaken, her platform   is to establish some laws limiting abortion, which is inlined with what the majority of Canadians want. 

 

You should read the whole polls and explanations.

 

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Do Canadians support a law limiting abortion? Yes.

The 2020 Dart poll is an excellent example of this. In that poll 71% believe a woman should be able to get an abortion for whatever reason, but at the same time 70% of Canadians think abortion should be illegal in the last trimester and 84% supported a law against sex selective abortion.

 

https://weneedalaw.ca/2020/06/canadian-opinions-on-abortion/

 

 

Lewis will get us the majority on the Fall election.  Conservatives, we better get our act together here! 

 

UNITE!

 

LESLYN LEWIS is the one! 

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22 hours ago, taxme said:

Steven Harper was supposed to have been a real and true conservative but what did he do for Canada and conservatism when he was elected the PM with a majority. Harper had a golden opportunity to get rid of the CBC, one of his worst enemies, and he did not. Harper was supposed to believe in freedom of speech, less government and less taxes.  All we got from Harper was just more government, more taxes, and less freedom.  

What Harper did do was to get rid of the useless Gun Registry.  The 'First Nations Financial Transparency Act' that was to track the billions of $$ dumped into that black hole 'Indian Act' . . .cancelled by Justin Trudeau.

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On 7/25/2020 at 4:11 PM, betsy said:

 

Leslyn Lewis is the closest to conservative we're gonna get if  we want to kick out Trudeau/Liberals.   She has conservative values.

Bernier didn't even win his seat in his own turf.  He'll never have a chance.    We'll be stuck with long years under the Liberals again.   

 

 

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/leslyn-lewis-social-conservative-party-leadership-2020/

 

 

"......strong conversations about where our country needs to go for everybody to benefit,”

 

We need that now, more than ever!  She'll unite Canada. 

 

Leslyn Lewis is the one!

so has other people in the conservative party have conservative ideas but they will not be allowed to become the leaders of the conservative party. The conservative party, jut like the liberal party, are pro-globalist. The head honchos in the PC party will never let a real and true conservative like Bernier ever become a leader. Bernier was a real conservative and the PC party voted for the liberal Scheer instead. Keep dreaming on, Betsy, but the next leader of the PC party will be just another liberal globalist. See if I am not wrong. Hold me to it if I am.

As one great Canadian called Pat Burns once said? The difference between the conservative party and the liberal party is that the conservative party will go a little slower towards total liberalism and globalism for Canada. Believe it or not. If Leslyn Lewis is your woman for the leaders job, well good luck for you on that one. Just saying. ;)

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7 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

What Harper did do was to get rid of the useless Gun Registry.  The 'First Nations Financial Transparency Act' that was to track the billions of $$ dumped into that black hole 'Indian Act' . . .cancelled by Justin Trudeau.

True enough. But it did not take long before the lieberals pretty much made the gun registry even worse than what it was, and Trudeau did end the First Nations financial transparency act. I guess all we can do now is just wait and see what happens with the conservative party.  I cannot understand as to why the PC party will not talk about the real issues going on in Canada. Big government, high taxes, and never have said that freedom of speech will exist forever. Political correctness is killing this once great British/European country, and the PC party appears to be just as PC as the liberal party is PC.

Just remember, it was conservative Brian Mulroney that gave the Canadian taxpayer's another tax called the GST. That tax has cost the Canadian people more of their dollars being stolen out of their wallets. If I were someone running for the PC party that wanted to get elected I would say to we the people that if I am elected I will get rid of the GST.  They should be a shoo-in. Just saying. ;)

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LESLYN LEWIS is the one for this election, folks.  ESPECIALLY, if we have a fall federal election!  It'll be the perfect timing for her!

Let's not waste votes.  UNITE. 

Put her at the top.

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6 hours ago, betsy said:

LESLYN LEWIS is the one for this election, folks.  ESPECIALLY, if we have a fall federal election!  It'll be the perfect timing for her!

Let's not waste votes.  UNITE. 

Put her at the top.

You're a Liberal supporter or delusional . . . . . Leslyn Lewis should be considered for a portfolio if MacKay or O'Toole should win the next Federal election.  Otherwise, sadly a vote for her is a vote for what we have now.  Apologies for bursting your bubble . . . 

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What are the chances that Trudeau might end up stepping down due to this WE scandal?  

If that happens...............who's likely to be the next leader of the Liberal Party?

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4 hours ago, betsy said:

Why Peter MacKay Is the Wrong Choice

MacKay’s history as minister of justice raises questions about his political fitness

https://thewalrus.ca/should-conservatives-trust-peter-mackays-leadership/

So many things to attack him with.   We'll only end up with a replay from last election.

Have to agree with you . . . . Peter MacKay would be the wrong choice.  Hoping Erin O'Toole can pull it off and become the official opposition at this time. 

Have to ask:  Are you a Liberal ?    :ph34r::blink:

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Sorry to intrude with reality but according to today's NP polls of likely conservative voters put MacKay so far out ahead it will be a laughter. He's at 55% to O'Toole's 25%. Lewis is at 11%.

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9 minutes ago, Argus said:

Sorry to intrude with reality but according to today's NP polls of likely conservative voters put MacKay so far out ahead it will be a laughter. He's at 55% to O'Toole's 25%. Lewis is at 11%.

Truth be told . . . . a mannequin from the store window would have more intelligence and depth than the shitpump that disgraces Rideau Hall now.  A Conservative PM is all I can hope for at the moment.  

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