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By the time covid is gone, the enduring legacy of it will be:

1) Massive carnage among small to medium businesses, while mega-corporations like Home Depot, FB and Amazon experience growth 

2) Twice as many deaths as a regular flu season, but almost exclusively in the very elderly demographic. People of middle age or lower will have very few deaths, and there will be less than 1% of the deaths of a regular flu season among children. (Less people will die of covid in the US this year than die of medical mistakes every single year, and at the height of the covid 'pandemic' in BC, more people died of fentanyl than covid. Yet covid dominates 70% of our newscasts as if it's the biggest killer ever, and everywhere we go we are indoctrinated in the fear of covid)

3) The government has effectively used the MSM as a fear-mongering tool to exert a huge amount of control over us, possibly even forcing vaccinations on every single one of us, even though nothing that they have said and done during the Covid scare has made any sense. Remember that liberal politicians on both sides of the border did everything possible to kill people via covid at the outset - now they all act like they're the champions of the cause. They did things like oppose travel bans, encourage large gatherings in Feb and March, encourage rioting & looting (large groups of people in close proximity exerting themselves and looting buildings), told people NOT to wear masks, put infected people into care homes... (Honestly, lib sycos need to look over that list and try to find a single example of me not being 100% correct - and what I'm saying is = "Libs/Dems intentionally killed tens of thousands of people").  There's no room left for stupidity as an excuse, the overall pattern is too overwhelming.

 

When you look at #s 1 & 3, you can see how covid has been a blessing to a small few elite companies, and how they could easily see the value of promoting C19 hysteria. FB and other social media, busier and more profitable than ever during covid, are all notorious for shutting down all talk of HCQ, and are pro-vaccination. Social media and the MSM are acting as the book-burners and brownshirts of the covid fascism. The government has even allied themselves with agents of social chaos/terrorism in Antifa and BLM. 

 

And at the end of the day, when you look at all the things that are wrong with fascism/communism/socialism, compare the actions of the liberal NA gov'ts with the rise of Hitler, Stalin, etc (dither about the differences between fascists and communists all you want, a lot of the evil things they did were achieved the same way) and you see a lot of similarities: The government is killing the entrepreneurial spirit of the country (more gently than true communists) and narrowing down the economy to fewer companies which all promote their screed, stripping away individual rights and freedoms, exercising extreme control over the main societal narratives through their modern-day brownshirts (FB, Antifa, BLM, state-controlled media, etc), pushing false narratives to divide the people, diminishing the power of legitimate policing, increased dependance on the gov't by citizens, etc. The attack on police, by malcontent losers and the liberal government, is outright disgusting. 

The complete frenzy that liberals go into when you say HCQ is very telling. They don't want a cheap, off-patent drug to protect us from the monster that is covid, which could eventually kill 0.05% of us if we're not careful. We will have our freedoms severely limited if we don't take their precious vaccine - no flights, can't visit or work in certain places, etc. 

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By the time covid is gone, the enduring legacy of it will be: 1) Massive carnage among small to medium businesses, while mega-corporations like Home Depot, FB and Amazon experience growth  2

I think the planning and organization required to pull off a world wide pandemic in order to implement (Fascism? Socialism? Communism?) in Canada is well beyond the capabilities of our Government, or

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Ah yes, Hitler.  I was thinking the same thing when I put my mask on at Costco just the other day.  It might look like a box store now, I said to myself, but how quickly can they turn it into a concentration camp, eh?  That's the question!

As for the "twice as many deaths" as a seasonal flu prediction.  It's better than the previous "fewer than the seasonal flu" nonsense, that's for sure.  Still nonsense though.

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17 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Ah yes, Hitler.  I was thinking the same thing when I put my mask on at Costco just the other day.  It might look like a box store now, I said to myself, but how quickly can they turn it into a concentration camp, eh?  That's the question!

As for the "twice as many deaths" as a seasonal flu prediction.  It's better than the previous "fewer than the seasonal flu" nonsense, that's for sure.  Still nonsense though.

Don't think of Hitler when you put on a mask in costco.

Think of why the Libs/Dems fought against a travel ban from China, why they encouraged large gatherings and subway ridership in mid-late February, why they discouraged masks, why they put infected people into care homes, why they encouraged 'protests' and then pretended that that protest groups and groups or rioters looting stores are the only ones that don't spread covid, etc. Tell me that makes even a little bit of sense to you sapper.

 

 

Tell me whether you honestly believe those people were 'fighting' covid, or whether it seems like they were intentionally spreading it? 

 

 

 

A seasonal flu kills up to 60,000 Americans, covid is a bit more than twice that, but deaths attributed to covid are sketchy to say the least. When octogenarians with two or more co-morbidities die of 'covid', it's actually more like covid is 1/5th of the cause.  

There are 2.2M active covid cases in the US right now. Only 209 people died yesterday. That's one death for every 10,500 infected people, and that's just among people who are known to be infected. There are many more people who are sick but just didn't factor into the stats. 

Covid, as a health risk, is not as big of a deal as covid as a political risk. Socialism, fascism and communism are actually all really bad. No one leaves free countries to move to socialist, communist or fascist countries. The governments of free countries don't shoot people who try to defect. get it?

 

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11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't think of Hitler when you put on a mask in costco.

Think of why the Libs/Dems fought against a travel ban from China, why they encouraged large gatherings and subway ridership in mid-late February, why they discouraged masks, why they put infected people into care homes, why they encouraged 'protests' and then pretended that that protest groups and groups or rioters looting stores are the only ones that don't spread covid, etc. Tell me that makes even a little bit of sense to you sapper.

 

 

Tell me whether you honestly believe those people were 'fighting' covid, or whether it seems like they were intentionally spreading it? 

 

 

 

A seasonal flu kills up to 60,000 Americans, covid is a bit more than twice that, but deaths attributed to covid are sketchy to say the least. When octogenarians with two or more co-morbidities die of 'covid', it's actually more like covid is 1/5th of the cause.  

There are 2.2M active covid cases in the US right now. Only 209 people died yesterday. That's one death for every 10,500 infected people, and that's just among people who are known to be infected. There are many more people who are sick but just didn't factor into the stats. 

Covid, as a health risk, is not as big of a deal as covid as a political risk. Socialism, fascism and communism are actually all really bad. No one leaves free countries to move to socialist, communist or fascist countries. The governments of free countries don't shoot people who try to defect. get it?

 

"Get it"?  That's hilarious.

Incompetence ≠ fascism, fortunately.  Even when it comes to Trump, he's more clown than Nazi. (although he might try to make a liar out of me come November)

Still, I can't say it any better than General Melchett.  You're George.

 

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10 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

"Get it"?  That's hilarious.

Incompetence ≠ fascism, fortunately.  Even when it comes to Trump, he's more clown than Nazi. (although he might try to make a liar out of me come November)

Still, I can't say it any better than General Melchett.  You're George.

It is hilarious, because you obviously don't 'get' much.

I'm done replying sap. I'm posting examples of "either dangerous stupidity which caused mass deaths or intentional euthanasia" and you're ignoring it and putting up clownish videos to make sandbox insults. 

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1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

Ah yes, Hitler.  I was thinking the same thing when I put my mask on at Costco just the other day.  It might look like a box store now, I said to myself, but how quickly can they turn it into a concentration camp, eh?  That's the question!

As for the "twice as many deaths" as a seasonal flu prediction.  It's better than the previous "fewer than the seasonal flu" nonsense, that's for sure.  Still nonsense though.

Flu deaths are down, as are other communicable diseases - mitigating for Covid transmission also mitigates for other diseases.  

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8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It is hilarious, because you obviously don't 'get' much.

I'm done replying sap. I'm posting examples of "either dangerous stupidity which caused mass deaths or intentional euthanasia" and you're ignoring it and putting up clownish videos to make sandbox insults. 

I didn't insult you, did I?  Other than to say you are talking nonsense, which, I think, is a perfectly valid response to your paranoia.

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11 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I didn't insult you, did I?  Other than to say you are talking nonsense, which, I think, is a perfectly valid response to your paranoia.

So then your actual answer is:

Libs/Dems are so incredibly stupid that their attempts to fight covid are identical to the list of things that you'd do to intentionally spread covid and to euthanize sick people & the elderly. 

You think I'm paranoid, I think you're naive. Agreed?

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11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So then your actual answer is:

Libs/Dems are so incredibly stupid that their attempts to fight covid are identical to the list of things that you'd do to intentionally spread covid and to euthanize sick people & the elderly. 

You think I'm paranoid, I think you're naive. Agreed?

No, I don't agree.  I haven't looked into everything that governments have done to prevent the spread of Covid-19, (let's face it, if it's just another flu why should they bother, right?) but as with many things that require costly planning based on possibilities, and unpopular decisions once possibilities become probabilities, they have shown themselves to be inadequate. 

Not all of them, of course.  I understand some isolated islands have managed better than most other countries.

But I don't see any malice.  Just everyday incompetence in the face of extraordinary circumstances.  It's one of the failings of a system that allows anyone a chance to be elected.

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6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No, I don't agree.  I haven't looked into everything that governments have done to prevent the spread of Covid-19, (let's face it, if it's just another flu why should they bother, right?)

See, here's where your failure to grasp this situation really shows through.

1) At the very beginning of this 'pandemic', there was reason to believe that it might be deadly. That's because only the Chinese gov't knew what was going on with covid, and they were supposedly disappearing people to cover it up (or maybe to play it up?). 

So, at the beginning, it was CRITICAL to take the right steps to slow/stop the spread by blocking travel and wearing masks, etc.

2) Now that we know that it's just a bad flu, drastic/draconian measures are no longer required, and suddenly the Libs/Dems are all over it. We're doing the things now that we should have done in late January when we found out about this. 

 

Do you at least understand that much, now that it has been explained to you?

I'm not asking you to invent the wheel here, just nod your head when I ask you if you understand that it rolls. 

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17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

See, here's where your failure to grasp this situation really shows through.

1) At the very beginning of this 'pandemic', there was reason to believe that it might be deadly. That's because only the Chinese gov't knew what was going on with covid, and they were supposedly disappearing people to cover it up (or maybe to play it up?). 

So, at the beginning, it was CRITICAL to take the right steps to slow/stop the spread by blocking travel and wearing masks, etc.

2) Now that we know that it's just a bad flu, drastic/draconian measures are no longer required, and suddenly the Libs/Dems are all over it. We're doing the things now that we should have done in late January when we found out about this. 

 

Do you at least understand that much, now that it has been explained to you?

I'm not asking you to invent the wheel here, just nod your head when I ask you if you understand that it rolls. 

No wheel required, thankfully.  Too little, too late is a common feature of incident response of this kind.  Your first point (too little) just illustrates the incompetence I mentioned. 

Your second point, while coming from a ridiculous premise, highlights the "too late" bit.

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9 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No wheel required, thankfully.  Too little, too late is a common feature of incident response of this kind.  Your first point (too little) just illustrates the incompetence I mentioned. 

Your second point, while coming from a ridiculous premise, highlights the "too late" bit.

You're coming around.

1) Yes, too little was done, but everything that was done, was done by the Republicans, against harsh criticism by the Dems - "Blocking covid is racist!!!" 

Also at that time, the Dems were telling people to do all kinds of things which, like I said, aided greatly in spreading the virus. 

2) "Too Late" is correct. In Canada we did everything we could to get covid in here, and now that it is here, our economy and our way of life has been destroyed. We shut the door to the henhouse after the fox got in. Now we are doing things that destroy small businesses which aren't necessary. 

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This is all factual: "There are 2.2M active covid cases in the US right now. Only 209 people died from it yesterday. That's one death for every 10,500 infected people, and that's just among people who are known to be infected. There are many more people who are infected but just didn't get included in the stats.

The infected death rate is pretty low, don't you think? What's ridiculous about that?

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Covid has already killed almost 160,000 people in the u.s. in just over half a year now.  

 

Still want to compare it to the flu?  

Yep. Flu deaths are no doubt added into the 160K figure. It's not like the normal flus all just knew to take 2020 off because c19 is here. 

Also, 240,000-440,000 people die from medical mistakes in the US every year. Covid is behind the pace, even if the c19 totals are accurate.

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4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yep. Flu deaths are no doubt added into the 160K figure. It's not like the normal flus all just knew to take 2020 off because c19 is here. 

Also, 240,000-440,000 people die from medical mistakes in the US every year. Covid is behind the pace, even if the c19 totals are accurate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3044888001

 

Wrong.  They are still reporting flu deaths, and also, the amount of covid deaths in the u.s. may be even higher than reported since at home deaths are not added to the count.  

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/08/houston-coronavirus-deaths-number/

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19 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3044888001

 

Wrong.  They are still reporting flu deaths, and also, the amount of covid deaths in the u.s. may be even higher than reported since at home deaths are not added to the count.  

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/08/houston-coronavirus-deaths-number/

Can you tell me how the regular flu symptoms differ from C19? The lists are the same.

The normal flu is vastly stronger against children and pregnant women but they both have the same respiratory symptoms. Covid just lasts longer and mainly targets old/unhealthy people. 

Like I said, 209 died, 2,200,000 are infected..... Ooohhh. Let's shut down the whole country.

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2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you tell me how the regular flu symptoms differ from C19? The lists are the same.

The normal flu is vastly stronger against children and pregnant women but they both have the same respiratory symptoms. Covid just lasts longer and mainly targets old/unhealthy people. 

Like I said, 209 died, 2,200,000 are infected..... Ooohhh. Let's shut down the whole country.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm

 

Almost the same, but there are differences.  

Comparing the two is like comparing bbguns and real guns.  Similar but different.  

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

 What's ridiculous about that?

 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

2) Now that we know that it's just a bad flu, 

Could actually be used in the dictionary as an example.

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't think of Hitler when you put on a mask in costco.

Think of why the Libs/Dems fought against a travel ban from China, why they encouraged large gatherings and subway ridership in mid-late February, why they discouraged masks,

I wonder if they discouraged masks early on until they could distribute enough of the type with the little metal strip that's sewn into them. Those are what they must use to tune in CNN's 5G signals before transforming them into the brainwaves that bath our minds with misinformation.

Perhaps they're afraid of HCQ not just because it's a cure for COVID but it also interferes with the production of brainwaves or something.

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4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

This is all factual: "There are 2.2M active covid cases in the US right now. Only 209 people died from it yesterday. That's one death for every 10,500 infected people, and that's just among people who are known to be infected. There are many more people who are infected but just didn't get included in the stats.

 

I'm curious about this.  Why would you limit your assessment to one day only.

I don't know what the death rate from Covid-19 is, but the only way to accurately assess it would be to compare the number of deaths from the  disease to the number of known outcomes (dead or recovered)

Notwithstanding all the unknowns, of course.

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2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I wonder if they discouraged masks early on until they could distribute enough of the type with the little metal strip that's sewn into them. Those are what they must use to tune in CNN's 5G signals before transforming them into the brainwaves that bath our minds with misinformation.

Perhaps they're afraid of HCQ not just because it's a cure for COVID but it also interferes with the production of brainwaves or something.

I appreciate your honesty eyeball. 

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Your inability to answer direct questions isn't even ridiculous, it's full-blown leftist. 

Actually I'm more of a centrist.  Sometimes an answer can seem like it's not an answer, but really, it is.

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