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Far cheaper to use the Canadian playbook....just become a NATO deadbeat and beg somebody else to carry the load.

These are not debates. A proper political debate is formated with a set time allotment where each side is given, say 10 minutes, to state their plan for government should they be elected, without inte

The biggest failure of the night was the moderator, IMO. He should have anticipated this. You don't open the debate the way he did, with these guys. You lay out the law right at the beginning, and the

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11 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Trump was a lying clown.  I expected no less.

"C'mon man! I told the biggest lies of anyone! Shut up you clown!" - Joe Biden

Biden just outright denied that Hunter worked for Burisma and that he walked out of China with $1.5B in his pocket, multiple times. He's acting like those are made-up stories now. Wallace let that go for some reason but he kept trying to pin down Trump on unverified things like $750 in taxes for 2015 and 2016. 

The MSM doesn't want anyone to know about Burisma or the China Bank scandal, but the worst kind of politician imaginable is the one who puts his family's profiteering ahead of his country.  

Biden also brought up the CNN lie about Trump dissing the military "that came from anonymous sources", but was 100% discredited by everyone who was there who's on record.

Biden lied about his positions on the green new deal and medicare, manufacturing jobs (Obama himself said that "manufacturing jobs were leaving America and nothing could be done about it, Trump doesn't have a magic wand to bring them back...."), he lied about mail-in ballot fraud that everyone knows is happening. He pretends to not know the difference between asking for a ballot and having ballots mass-mailed to everyone who had a pulse in that state in the last ten years.

Biden lied and said that he supports the police.... for months the Dems were making laws to let rioters back on the streets, letting felons out early to participate in riots, and no one in the Dem party called out rioting, looting, arson or even the murders of police officers. NOT ONE OF THOSE FUCKING LOSERS SAID A THING! Now all of a sudden Biden acts like he supports the police and it's a huge, pathetic lie. When Trump challenged him to name a police union that supports him we heard crickets, but Wallace quickly interjected.

Biden basically said "Antifa's not really a thing", and everyone in North America knows that's a lie too.

Biden's lies are like "Hey stupid I said it so now it's true, it's time for you to start believing what you formerly knew to be a lie and just move on."

If he said "Sant Claus is officially real now" Chris Wallace would have nodded his head.

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One factor that NOBODY like to mention in the US is that if they're having a BIG election like this one, likely just over half those eligible will vote. 56% is the average turnout. 

So enthusiasm plays a BIG role. Are both sides enthused?? Really? Okay...60% turnout.

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Trump did exactly what he wanted. He had no plans on having a debate. He was just going to talk over Biden and then play victim when Biden lashed back. 

It's the whole narrative about fighting with a pig in the mud, but the pig likes it. 

So then what's the point of any future debates? Because it's clear Trump doesn't really want to debate, he just wants to have a televised internet comments section with Biden. 

I also don't really see how behaving like that broadens his appeal? 

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Just now, Argus said:

I think Americans are equally enthusiastic to vote for Trump, and to get him the hell out of there.


So 50% turnout...better hope the Biden base isn't in the middle of a good Call of Duty scenario.

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Just now, Boges said:

That's the strategy. Hope people don't vote or don't get their vote counted. 

Democracy indeed. 


I'm thinking that they'll look at the calendar and it will be the 4th of November.

"Hey...weren't we supposed to do something yesterday?"


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Note that DHS says White Supremacy is the biggest threat facing the US. Trump refused to denounce it. 




WASHINGTON – Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.

“White supremacist extremists, from a lethality standpoint over the last two years, particularly when you look at 2018 and 2019, are certainly the most persistent and lethal threat when we talk about domestic violent extremists,” said Wolf, who has been heading the DHS in an acting capacity since November.

The Senate committee hearing came just a few weeks after a whistleblower, Brian Murphy, who served as an undersecretary in the Homeland Security Department's intelligence office, said Wolf told him to squash information regarding the threat of white supremacy and assessments of Russian interference in the U.S. election to better fit President Donald Trump's agenda.



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12 minutes ago, Argus said:

More CNN bullshit.


According to Wray, Russia is using social media, proxies, state media and online journals to sow "divisiveness and discord" and "primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden and what the Russians see as kind of an anti-Russian establishment."

Anyone who thinks there's any room left for discord and division is just a complete idiot. That's like saying "There was a steak lying on the floor and he tried to make two starving dogs fight over it". 

Are the Russians also trying to get Americans to make/watch porn?

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24 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:


CNN has Russia on the brain. Like you do.

Anybody that still believes in the Russia hoax is a complete moron.  There is no more way around it at this point. with all of the information that's been released over the last few months.

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