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Multiple Chinese "Canadian" organizations are, on the eve of Remembrance Day, lauding the 75th anniversary of China's entry into the Korean war and how they fought off the evil western imperialists, like, uh, Canada. The Chinese made great and noble sacrifices to protect North Korea's Kim regime.

What this says to me is we need a much more robust CSIS in this country, and need to be able to strip such people of their status and deport them. We also need to slow down the number of Chinese immigrants coming here to a level each can be checked out by Canadian agents in China.

A group of Chinese-Canadian associations are marking the 70th anniversary of the Korean War by publicly condemning the United States and its allies, including Canada, as aggressors and imperialists while lauding China for fighting alongside North Korea.

“Seventy years ago, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army and the Korean people fought together to resist the invasion, took the initiative to attack and achieved victory! Let us remember this great victory,” wrote Tracy Law, a Vancouver financial adviser and president of the Guangzhou Fellow-students Association of Canada and president of the Guangdong Chinese Chamber of Commerce of Canada

Yeah, she sounds like a great patriotic Canadian. /s

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-chinese-canadian-groups-laud-belligerents-that-fight-against-canada/#comments

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On 10/29/2020 at 12:11 PM, Argus said:

What this says to me is we need a much more robust CSIS in this country, and need to be able to strip such people of their status and deport them. We also need to slow down the number of Chinese immigrants coming here to a level each can be checked out by Canadian agents in China.

What it says to me is multiculturalism as an idea is a failure. Especially in the way we implemented it. What we do not do is promote the very vision of a nation that allows for people to freely indulge themselves in their foreign cultures. We do not celebrate, nor even protect, the very framework for the freedom and tolerance this nation provides.

The world looks at Canada and sees nothing more than an open camp-ground. Rightly so, given the message that we are not a real nation coming from our own, federal Prime Minister.

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When I read things like this I think that the Canada as we know it will be totally unrecognizable in the not too distant future. How on earth could anyone think the North Korean invasion of the South was a just cause to fight for and that UN forces were the aggressors ? Brainwashing works as we see from those coming from Communist China. Those foot soldiers must be laughing at our multiculturalism ,and rightfully so.

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Speaking of Canada becoming China, this is an interesting read. It clearly sets out how China's policies, mentioned elsewhere on other China topics, is to try to incorporate all Chinese across the world into a single nation under their control. Thus to them, all the Chinese-Canadians owe allegiance to China, and no one else.

The Communist Party has begun expanding the concept of the nation, attempting to create a new type of global entity.

First, the expansion. The Chinese authorities are looking to win recruits to their hyper-nationalist cause, and so Party propaganda now preaches a new China—a China that includes not only the 1.4 billion citizens living within the country’s borders, but also the huaqiao (Chinese citizens living overseas) and the huaren (ethnic Chinese with foreign citizenship).3 “The unity of Chinese at home requires the unity of the sons and daughters of Chinese abroad,” according to a CCP teaching manual for United Front cadres. The Party hopes that by appealing to these vast groups, it can “awaken their ethnic consciousness,” in the semi-mystical words of He Yafei, deputy chief of the Party-run Overseas Chinese Affairs Office (OCAO).

And so the huaqiao and the huaren are told that their blood connects them to the motherland, no matter what it might say on their passports. The message is a loud one: Beijing now enjoys total control of virtually all Chinese-language media in Australia, as well as most Chinese community and professional associations in Western Europe and the United States (* and Canada). Future generations are being recruited too, at summer camps for young Chinese organised by the OCAO.4 We are witnessing the attempt to construct a global identity—one that straddles all borders, proudly representing Beijing on every continent.

https://quillette.com/2020/10/28/chinas-stateless-nations/

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On 10/29/2020 at 9:11 AM, Argus said:

Multiple Chinese "Canadian" organizations are, on the eve of Remembrance Day, lauding the 75th anniversary of China's entry into the Korean war and how they fought off the evil western imperialists, like, uh, Canada. The Chinese made great and noble sacrifices to protect North Korea's Kim regime.

What this says to me is we need a much more robust CSIS in this country, and need to be able to strip such people of their status and deport them. We also need to slow down the number of Chinese immigrants coming here to a level each can be checked out by Canadian agents in China.

A group of Chinese-Canadian associations are marking the 70th anniversary of the Korean War by publicly condemning the United States and its allies, including Canada, as aggressors and imperialists while lauding China for fighting alongside North Korea.

“Seventy years ago, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army and the Korean people fought together to resist the invasion, took the initiative to attack and achieved victory! Let us remember this great victory,” wrote Tracy Law, a Vancouver financial adviser and president of the Guangzhou Fellow-students Association of Canada and president of the Guangdong Chinese Chamber of Commerce of Canada

Yeah, she sounds like a great patriotic Canadian. /s

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-chinese-canadian-groups-laud-belligerents-that-fight-against-canada/#comments

Anyone who supports China like that dumb azz Tracy Law does has to be a communist. Chinese spies and communists are now pretty much everywhere in Canada today thanks to Castro Trudeau who has opened up the door for those Chinese commies to try and takeover Canada. There was a huge contingent of American soldiers shipped to the border of Canada and America awhile back. I wonder what that was all about? Maybe China being in control of Canadian affairs now? Hey, we never know, eh? 

Hoping to deport and to put a stop to all Chinese immigration will be a tough task indeed to try and do as they are here already in big numbers. CSIS is as useless as Castro Trudeau is. CSIS no doubt is probably being run by pro Chinese communists in the government for all we know. Castro Trudeau being one of them. Our politicians have deserted Canadian freedom for Chinese communism. The only one that can save Canada from the likes of Castro Trudeau is Donald Trump because Trump has already put China in it's right place. Get the hell out of America. Believe it or not. I do anyway. ;)

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On 10/30/2020 at 11:54 AM, cannuck said:

You can take the boy (or girl) out of China, but you will NEVER take China out of the boy (or girl).

Will the Chinese people in Canada be loyal to Canada or China? I think that they will be forced to be loyal to China and not Canada. In Canada today, Asians can pretty much do anything they want in Canada in their own language without hesitation thanks to multiculturalism and diversity. Speaking English is just a minor inconvenience for them to have to learn and speak. And most white leftist liberals think that this is just oh so dandy. The buffoons. :D 

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Just now, Michael Hardner said:

They tried this unpatriotic-Canadian accusement with Andrew Scheer also, just saying.

The conservative party of Canada is just another leftist liberal party in Canada. Everything they do and say is what Castro Trudeau says or does. Both liberal party's fighting to wreck and ruin this once great country called Canada. A worm has more of a backbone then those buffoons in the conservative party will ever be able to grow. They both come nowhere near a great leader like Donald Trump who has no problem showing his loyalty and patriotism to his America. Our dear comrade Canadian leaders only show loyalty and patriotism to other not so great communist countries.

Canada is pretty much phck'd today. Real and true conservatism is almost dead here in Canada while leftist liberal, socialists and communists now rule over Canada. While America has freedom thanks to Trump, Canada will have communist tyranny. Way the go you stupid supporters of socialism and communism. You, and especially your children and grandchildren, will pay big time for your ignorance and stupidity. Enjoy your new normal world. You soon will start to cry as to what you have allowed to happen. Way the go, followers. :(

 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

They tried this unpatriotic-Canadian accusement with Andrew Scheer also, just saying.

So are you saying there's nothing unpatriotic about these people lauding China for its invasion, where it killed hundreds of Canadian soldiers? Are you saying all the information about how China is taking over local Chinese media and community groups is imaginary? That CSIS reports about how China is working to gain influence with the Chinese-Canadian community are racist scaremongering? That China's openly expressed policy that all people who are Chinese by race owe allegiance to China is fake news?

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17 hours ago, taxme said:

The conservative party of Canada is just another leftist liberal party in Canada.

Canada is pretty much phck'd today. Real and true conservatism is almost dead here in Canada while leftist liberal, socialists and communists now rule over Canada. While America has freedom thanks to Trump, Canada will have communist tyranny.

Real conservatism is alive and well in Canada, but you are right: it sure as hell is not represented by the Red Torries of the CPC!   The story in the US is very much the same as Canada: the drift left is an urban phenomenon.  As the world population bloats, it urbanizes to a greater proportion.   Urban populations are by definition mostly dependent populations and not very productive, thus the Petri dish of socialism (and crime, as it happens).   Rural and most of small town Canada is almost as conservative (but much less fundamentalist than rural USA).

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9 hours ago, cannuck said:

Real conservatism is alive and well in Canada, but you are right: it sure as hell is not represented by the Red Torries of the CPC!   The story in the US is very much the same as Canada: the drift left is an urban phenomenon.  As the world population bloats, it urbanizes to a greater proportion.   Urban populations are by definition mostly dependent populations and not very productive, thus the Petri dish of socialism (and crime, as it happens).   Rural and most of small town Canada is almost as conservative (but much less fundamentalist than rural USA).

Personally, I think that the majority of Canadians have drifted more towards socialism and communism. Real and true conservatism is still somewhat alive in Canada but it is so small in size that it will never go anywhere all that much. The majority of Canadians will always believe the lies told to them by their dear comrade leaders and the lying media in Canada.

There are way too many zombie followers out there who still will believe the lies being told to them today that this Convid 19 virus is back and even bigger. Pretty much 70% of the people that I see in my travels every day are now wearing masks. Some even in their vehicles. Unh? We are now living in a silly azz country full of silly azz fools who can easily be manipulated into a state of fear and panic and paranoia by their dear leaders and the media.

There is a gang of communist fools out there called Masks4Canada that want everyone to mask up. When people tend to mask up they tend to not want to talk to others which is the end game of our communist leaders and the globalists. Communist China is making itself present in Canada alright and many fools appear to be all in for communism in Canada. Mask wearing is submitting to slavery and obedience to the globalist elite. Believe it or not. :(

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On 11/3/2020 at 7:51 AM, cannuck said:

  Urban populations are by definition mostly dependent populations and not very productive, thus the Petri dish of socialism (and crime, as it happens). 

Oh FFS.   Not very productive.... really ?  How is this 'by definition' ?

I can read people who sniff their own glue only to a point.... then I have to say something... :lol:

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13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Oh FFS.   Not very productive.... really ?  How is this 'by definition' ?

I can read people who sniff their own glue only to a point.... then I have to say something... :lol:

It's simple enough that even a city slicker such as yourself should be able to figure it out.

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23 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Oh FFS.   Not very productive.... really ?  How is this 'by definition' ?

I can read people who sniff their own glue only to a point.... then I have to say something... :lol:

When you compare it to living in the country, I'd say not as productive, most city jobs are 9 to 5, ever been on a farm, or mine, or worked in forestry, not many 8 hour days there.... 

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On 10/30/2020 at 2:54 PM, cannuck said:

You can take the boy (or girl) out of China, but you will NEVER take China out of the boy (or girl).

I don't agree with that, because you don't know that.  Some people embrace their new country while some people's hearts never leave their old country.  The problem is our system doesn't seem to care either way.

What I would do as PM is end dual citizenship, make citizenship a bit stricter, and take a lot more care in making sure naturalized Canadians had sole allegiance to Canada.  Not to mention trying to forge a stronger national identity we could all embrace together.  This would also foster a lot more "trust" between immigrants and Canadian-born.  People resent  "Canadians of convenience" with dual loyalties.  If there's a war, every Canadian should be on Canada's side.  The cucks in Ottawa are too busy trying to be nice to everyone to demand anything from them.

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4 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I don't agree with that, because you don't know that.  Some people embrace their new country while some people's hearts never leave their old country.  The problem is our system doesn't seem to care either way.

I have very long experience dealing with China and Chinese people.  First thing you must appreciate:  China for thousands of years was more of an idea than one single country.  The miracle of China's success was that the displaced Chinese from the '30s clung to that idea as it was engrained within their culture.   It really only became one big country under Mao.  When Deng opened it up, those families that had been off shore from between 50 and a few hundred years simply continued clinging to the idea of China as one big country and did, as their culture dictates, just went right on being Chinese as their ancestors had once dreamed of being.  Oh: and they brought back what was billions but had grown into trillions of bux when they just kept on being Chinese.  Understanding that leads to realizing what Macao, HK, Tibet, Taiwan mean to China and Chinese.  The puzzle must be completed in their minds.

I just wish we had leadership that could define Canada and Canadians with that kind of strength and longevity.  But: we sure as hell do NOT have that, nor have we ever.

Yes, there will be individual exceptions, but my experience (and I think you will find many others who know the country and its culture) is that overall, a Chinese will be Chinese forever.   Doesn't stop them from being a welcome, contributing and loyal Canadian.

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9 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I don't agree with that, because you don't know that.  Some people embrace their new country while some people's hearts never leave their old country.  The problem is our system doesn't seem to care either way.

What I would do as PM is end dual citizenship, make citizenship a bit stricter, and take a lot more care in making sure naturalized Canadians had sole allegiance to Canada.  Not to mention trying to forge a stronger national identity we could all embrace together.  This would also foster a lot more "trust" between immigrants and Canadian-born.  People resent  "Canadians of convenience" with dual loyalties.  If there's a war, every Canadian should be on Canada's side.  The cucks in Ottawa are too busy trying to be nice to everyone to demand anything from them.

I agree with most of what you say, but I'm curious what does our national identity look like today and what is it going to look like after mass immigration. I ask because lots of people on this forum are more than willing to give up their Canadian identity for something unknown. while some of us are not willing to give up that easy.

I think dual loyalties is beyond fixing right now, take a look a few years back war broke out in Lebanon, and 50,000 plus Canadians needed to be rescued, on short notice,  These were Lebanese Canadians who had moved back to Lebanon, for what ever reason, and are not paying taxes in Canada, but were rescued on Canadian tax dollars because they have duel citizenship. If there is 50,000 in a small country like Lebanon, how many are are across the globe.

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7 hours ago, cannuck said:

Yes, there will be individual exceptions, but my experience (and I think you will find many others who know the country and its culture) is that overall, a Chinese will be Chinese forever.   Doesn't stop them from being a welcome, contributing and loyal Canadian.

What matters is loyalty/allegiance.  What matters is that if there is a confrontation between China and Canada, Canadian citizens choose Canada.  It is expected that people from a foreign culture still have identity wrapped in that culture.  The priority should be in defending the polity known as Canada and what it stands for.

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On 11/6/2020 at 12:23 PM, Army Guy said:

I think dual loyalties is beyond fixing right now, take a look a few years back war broke out in Lebanon, and 50,000 plus Canadians needed to be rescued, on short notice,  These were Lebanese Canadians who had moved back to Lebanon, for what ever reason, and are not paying taxes in Canada, but were rescued on Canadian tax dollars because they have duel citizenship. If there is 50,000 in a small country like Lebanon, how many are are across the globe.

I think the Little Tur....er,  I mean PRIME MINISTER TRUdeau is talking about preparing to evacuate 300,000+ from Hong Kong.  I would for one welcome that particular infulx.  People who refuse to knuckle under to Communism (and ironically would be fleeing into creeping socialism).

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Another warning from CSIS about China's efforts to influence Chinese-Canadians and immigrants. here. I doubt Mr. Socks will pay much attention, to it.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service says Beijing routinely uses undercover state security officials and “trusted agents,” or proxies, to target members of Canada’s Chinese community in an effort to silence critics of President Xi Jinping, including threats of retribution against their families back in China.

The federal spy agency says these illegal activities in Canada are part of a global campaign of intimidation that constitutes a threat to this country’s sovereignty and the safety of Canadians. One of the most high-profile efforts is Operation Fox Hunt, directed by Beijing’s Ministry of Public Security, which has been under way since 2014.

“The Chinese authorities are very active. They are very sophisticated. They have almost unlimited resources and in particular, the Chinese diaspora in Canada is quite large,” he said.

Vancouver-based immigration lawyer Richard Kurland said this intimidation from China on Canadian soil has become “standard operating procedure” now.

He said sisters and brothers are often used to exert pressure on behalf of Beijing. “In British Columbia, siblings are fair targets and they’re not even shy about it. It’s literally in your face.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-csis-warns-chinas-operation-fox-hunt-is-targeting-canadas-chinese/

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