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Well, it is official now. Our dear unelected comrade health officer here in BC Bonnie Henry has gone totally insane in the head. Good old comrade Bonnie has decided that we have not had enough already of all of these rules of Covid but now she wants to give us more new rules to have to abide by during these terrible awful Covid 19 times. Chuckle. 

She has now declared that the people of BC can no longer host friends at their homes, gather together outdoors or get together with other family members at restaurants. Only the immediate people in your bubble family can still be together. How nice of this sob. The people who own restaurants are already having a tough time trying to stay open. After all that they have tried to do to make this royal dictator happy, she now does this to them. Where will this ever end. So, what will be the next little rule that this sob will come up with next? Locking us all down completely? 

This nut job woman has to go. She has totally gone cuckoo. She has pretty much said that there will be no more get together's for who knows how long. This could last for weeks or even months whatever she decides to do. How can this nut job be given such a job like this and get paid to do what she is doing by the taxpayer's of this province. This is not about the virus anymore, it is all about communist like power and control over the people of BC now. if she is not fired now then I believe that there may just be a rebellion going to happen as I think that people are going to start to get fed up with all of these rules and anti-social behavior on the part of buffoons like Bonnie, our BC premier and BC health minister. Our province cannot take  this mush anymore. 

So, what do you members here from BC and from other provinces also have to say about this new draconian rule? Has Bonnie Poo gone way too far here? With face masks now being required in most places, social distancing being enforced by the police, isolation being forced on people who come back from vacations, and which I am now sure that lock downs will be next on the Bonnie menu. Are we being set up for something here like some kind of communist like takeover? I believe that there is more to this Convid nonsense and lie then what we are being told. what say you? You now have the floor. :)

 

Source: Rebel News. 

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On 11/12/2020 at 6:02 PM, taxme said:

The people who own restaurants are already having a tough time trying to stay open. After all that they have tried to do to make this royal dictator happy, she now does this to them. Where will this ever end. So, what will be the next little rule that this sob will come up with next? Locking us all down completely? 

The people who own restaurants have good reason to be pissed off. They invested money into upgrades as directed by the health authority. They implemented the safety protocols. Now they're told they have to shut down anyway.

The reason? Those methods and techniques they force on people are ineffective. They gave themselves legal authority without competency. These health authorities do not seem to know much about health. They give no real health advice, just how to hide from the virus. The orders they give to businesses are useless instructions that just cost money, and waste time.

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14 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

The people who own restaurants have good reason to be pissed off.

 

14 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Those methods and techniques they force on people are ineffective.

People not following the guidelines is what makes the methods ineffective.  If all the people - even the young healthy ones who hardly ever die even if they get sick - didn't think they were safe to party, go to weddings, birthday parties, house parties and street parties, we wouldn't have increasing cases.

Henry imposed testrictions in Lower Mainland two weeks; cases stopped increasing.  The rest of BC continued to increase - from 100% a day to 300% in different areas.  So now the rest of BC gets the same restrictions.  

Politicians across Canada are begging people to take precautions, stay home, keep their contact circle small, keep distance, wear a mask.  Politicians reiterate, week after week, that they do not want to lock down, that if people follow guidelines, there won't need to be a lockdown.

But misinformers continue with their claims - its just a bad flu, 99% of people survive, hospitals aren't that full, that masks are ineffective and an assault on freedom, that we should be allowed to "do what we want" and - magnanimously from some "protect the vulnerable." 

If you don't want businesses shuttered, follow and support the public health guidelines and quit pretending you're some kind of expert that knows better than people who've trained all their life in epidemiology and pandemic control.

 

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2 hours ago, dialamah said:

 

People not following the guidelines is what makes the methods ineffective.

 

What makes the methods ineffective is that they are ineffective. I hear you people like to talk about what you're calling  "the science" though. Please show us some. Because I've been hearing the other side of the story. I'd like to hear what you think you've got.

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30 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

What makes the methods ineffective is that they are ineffective. I hear you people like to talk about what you're calling  "the science" though. Please show us some. Because I've been hearing the other side of the story. I'd like to hear what you think you've got.

One I've seen many times: when you wear a mask it won't work if only covers your mouth and not your nose.  Really not that complicated, yet very difficult for some people.  

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2 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I hear you people like to talk about what you're calling  "the science" though. Please show us some.

https://www.dlsph.utoronto.ca/covid19real/real-review/how-well-do-cloth-masks-reduce-transmission-of-sars-cov-2-viral-particles/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-12/masks-can-reduce-covid-spread-by-40-german-study-suggests

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

Data regarding the “real-world” effectiveness of community masking are limited to observational and epidemiological studies.

An investigation of a high-exposure event, in which 2 symptomatically ill hair stylists interacted for an average of 15 minutes with each of 139 clients during an 8-day period, found that none of the 67 clients who subsequently consented to an interview and testing developed infection. The stylists and all clients universally wore masks in the salon as required by local ordinance and company policy at the time.

In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.

A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34

A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.

Investigations involving infected passengers aboard flights longer than 10 hours strongly suggest that masking prevented in-flight transmissions, as demonstrated by the absence of infection developing in other passengers and crew in the 14 days following exposure.

Seven studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system, a  German city, a U.S. state, a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C., as well as both Canada and the U.S. nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S. also demonstrated reductions in mortality. An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.

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Why do people keep talking like the government measures are preventing people from getting covid, when we have been clearly told that they are meant to flatten the curve so that our hospitals are not overwhelmed. We are being told that covid is running wild, and that our hospitals are in danger of being overwhelmed. Notice that when you say one right after the other people will assume that they are cause and effect. Lets look at the numbers: There are 227 current hospitalizations for covid in our 161 hospitals in B.C.. This means an average of 1.4 cases per hospital. Overwhelming , maybe not. Of these cases 57 are in intensive care, an average of 0.35 per hospital. Also not likely to overwhelm the system. How would you really put the system in jeopardy? If the system was already unable to provide major procedures in a timely manor, and had months long waiting lists, you could shut down hospital beds, and operating rooms. What's that, you say that has already done. We could always do it again.

 

Currently there are 25474 covid infections in a population of 5,1000,000, meaning that 1 in every 200 people in B.C. have the virus, bad, but not a crisis.  Oh by the way the measures don't prevent any infections it just makes them happen over a longer period of time.

 

Why would Bonnie Queen Henry pretend that covid cases were overwhelming our system when it obviously is not. Do you believe that she is basking in the public adulation, loving the fact that people are sorry that it is too late to nominate her for the award of B.C., but mentioning her for the award of Canada. Do you think that holding control over her subjects, having them hang on her every word, and locking them down at will is more important to her than looking out for their best interests. You could be right.

 

Why would John Horgan want to drag the crisis out forever? Could it be because it made him the most popular premier in the country, and enabled him to call an election that everyone knew was not necessary, and won him the majority that escaped him in the previous election? Just a thought.

 

We are already 8 months into this crisis, but that is not long enough for some. Again lockdowns do not prevent infections, but they do let us keep them for longer.

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Here's a more recent one Dora:

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Major Study Finds Masks Don’t Reduce COVID-19 Infection Rates

 
NOVEMBER 18, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A high-quality, large-scale Danish study finds no evidence that wearing a face mask significantly minimizes people’s risk of contracting COVID-19. The randomized-control trial found no statistically significant difference in coronavirus infection rates between mask-wearers and non-mask-wearers. In fact, according to the data, mask usage may actually increase the likelihood of infection.

“The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use,” the authors summarized their results.

 

While mask-wearing has been advertised by health officials all around the world, including the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, the Danish researchers found that there was no statistically significant difference between wearing a mask or not in preventing people from contracting COVID-19.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/18/major-study-finds-masks-dont-reduce-covid-19-infection-rates/

Doesn't sound like the Dutch are big maskers:

Dutch Medical Experts Have Said That Masks Don’t Stop The Spread Of COVID

And we know Sweden's not.

So you know what would be interesting?

Comparing place like that in Northern Europe where they don't appear to be pushing for masks to places in Southern Europe where they have mask mandates like Spain and Italy

So here's where you can find the data and see the graphs for:

Denmark: Population about 6 million

Sweden: Sweden Population about 10 million

Netherlands: Population about 17 million

Versus:

Spain: Population about 47 million

and 

Italy: Population about 60 million

I looked it over and it doesn't inspire me to run to the drug store for masks.

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On 11/21/2020 at 8:38 PM, OftenWrong said:

The people who own restaurants have good reason to be pissed off. They invested money into upgrades as directed by the health authority. They implemented the safety protocols. Now they're told they have to shut down anyway.

The reason? Those methods and techniques they force on people are ineffective. They gave themselves legal authority without competency. These health authorities do not seem to know much about health. They give no real health advice, just how to hide from the virus. The orders they give to businesses are useless instructions that just cost money, and waste time.

Our lying politicians, the lying media and those so called health experts like Bonnie Henry are all paid off liars and they are there to push the Convid 19 agenda of the deep state globalists. Event 201 which can still be found on the internet can explain it all to anyone who will take the time to go check it out. Those mentioned above are onl ypuppet on a string buffoons who are taking their orders from the globalists who keep them talking about something that they have no clue or idea about as to what they are talking about. All they seem to be able to do is dream up more rules to take evn more freedoms away from us. 

The wearing of masks and social distancing and self quarantining was supposed to solve the problem. Apparently it does not. even vaccines will not stop this rape of our freedoms. They the people are being made fools of every day and they don't seem to not care about one bit. Some have become so paranoid that they now live in state of panic and fear and will even wear a mask while driving in their own vehicles. How nuts is that? The majority will not even bother to question or challenge anything told to them. The farce will carry on until the people decide that they have had enough already, and stop listening to their lying leaders and the media. If they did the China virus would be gone tomorrow. It's not about the virus anymore and the politicians and the media and Bonnie poo already know that. Believe it or not. ;)

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19 hours ago, dialamah said:

@taxmeMore restrictions for BC - maybe time to move?

BC Premier John Horgan to ban all liquor sales starting December 17.

 

Bull chit. Does comrade Horgan want a riot on his bloody hands. Horgan needs the money from the sales of booze to keep his little Convid hoax and farce going. Shit, who is going to pay Queen Bonnie Henry her big time six figure salary for doing dyk if he shuts the liquor stores down. If it were true though then I guess that there will be a mad rush on booze like there was for toilet paper not too long ago. Nice song. Nice chicks too. It had me moving and grooving, man. Lol. 

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Speaking to The Spectator, the British doctor stated: ‘We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus.

‘The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.’

Dr Nabarro went on to say that developing economies had been indirectly affected by lockdown measures, adding: ‘Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry in the Caribbean, for example, or in the Pacific because people aren’t taking their holidays.

‘Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world — look what’s happening to poverty levels.

‘It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.’

Dr Nabarro continued: ‘Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.’

He concluded: ‘And so, we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method.

‘Develop better systems for doing it. Work together and learn from each other.’

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12 hours ago, GeorgeLiam said:

Millions of people are dying , the whole world is infected with the virus.Why do people think about some kind of conspiracy and try to somehow break the rules established during the pandemic...🙃

 

It's just for that reason of the many that are dying that many people are now starting to question this virus hoax. It has always been a conspiracy from the start. Event 201 on the internet told us all this was going to happen. Check it out. It was no coincidence as to what Event 201 was all about. 

The Convid 19 rules that have been implemented since March have caused way more harm and deaths to society than any virus ever could have done. It's time for people to wake up and end this nonsense or it will go on forever if our dear comrade leaders and the globalists keep getting their way. It's time to end this hoax now. Works for me. ;)

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On 12/18/2020 at 6:10 AM, oops said:

Speaking to The Spectator, the British doctor stated: ‘We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus.

‘The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.’

Dr Nabarro went on to say that developing economies had been indirectly affected by lockdown measures, adding: ‘Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry in the Caribbean, for example, or in the Pacific because people aren’t taking their holidays.

‘Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world — look what’s happening to poverty levels.

‘It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.’

Dr Nabarro continued: ‘Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.’

He concluded: ‘And so, we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method.

‘Develop better systems for doing it. Work together and learn from each other.’

I like the part where they say that the only time lock downs should be implemented is when time is needed to reorganize, regroup and re balance. In other words we have no problem with lock downs which to me is what they want to happen anyways. I will never believe a word the CDC or WHO has to babble on about. They are pretty much both heavily funded by globalists like G. Soros and B. Gates. 

The best system and solution is for we the people to stop listening to those mentioned above and their lackey politicians and the media who only will repeat the words that are written down for them to say. OUR LYING POLITICIANS AND THE LYING MEDIA IS THE PROBLEM. Ignore the liars. Works for me all the time. ;)

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20 hours ago, GeorgeLiam said:

Why do people think about some kind of conspiracy and try to somehow break the rules established during the pandemic.

The reason some people are breaking the rules set by our governments is that, they make no sense to them. When the virus was first discovered people were told that it was catastrophic, and that bodies were piling up on the streets. Most people believed this, but some said, if there are bodies piling up on the streets, how come I don't see them? Some people don't believe anything that the government tells them, and believe that the world leaders are conspiring together to enslave us all and take complete control of everything. I have seen our leaders, and don't believe they are clever enough to pull that off.

 

I believe that the WHO totally misdiagnosed the covid19 virus, believing that it was a repeat of the 1918 H1N1 flue virus. It is not. The 1918 H1N1 virus infected one third of the world's population, and one tenth of those infected died.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html#:~:text=It is estimated that about,occurring in the United States.

 

It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide.

 

Covid19 has so far infected 81.2 million people worldwide or one ninety sixth of the world's population. The number of deaths is 1.77 million, or one  fourty fifth of those infected.

 

Our governments are fighting a pandemic which ended 100 years ago.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+deaths+worldwide&rlz=1C1GGRV_enCA911CA911&oq=covid+deaths+world&aqs=chrome.0.0i433i457j69i57j0l6.8794j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

The 1918 virus infected people of all ages, and people with strong immune systems, and people with weak immune systems. This required a general lock down. Covid19 mainly affects older people with weak immune systems. 75% of the deaths from covod19 are in people in long term care homes, meaning that a targeted response would have been far more effective than a general lock down.

 

According to the National Institute on Aging (NIA) at Ryerson University, by 24 November 2020, long-term care (LTC) and retirement homes reported 12% of the Canadian totals of COVID-19 cases and 75% of total deaths.

 

https://hillnotes.ca/2020/10/30/long-term-care-homes-in-canada-the-impact-of-covid-19/. These people were in effect already locked down, and not seeing people outside of their bubble, but the government decided to lock down everyone else.

In Canada to date there have been 555,000 cases, which is one in every 82 people. Of the resolved cases 466,000 have recovered and there have been 15,122 deaths. This means that 96.5% of the people recovered. That makes 99% of the people not in long term care homes have recovered.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+cases+canada+current&rlz=1C1GGRV_enCA911CA911&oq=covid+cases&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59l3j0i402l2j69i60l2.11279j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

People are not seeing the catastrophic damage that the media, and our governments are telling us is out there, but are seeing massive damage caused by the lock downs. They are tired, and frustrated after 9 months of ill advised restrictions, and some are fighting back the only way they know how. Masks have become a symbol of the restrictions, and some see wearing them as a sign of agreeing with them, and this becomes the focus of their anger.

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It's not for a communist takeover. Goodness. Hospitals are now flooded and there are people who are actually dying. Not because we don't see it means that we should not believe that the pandemic is real. We all want to get back to our normal lives, yes, me too! But knowing the risks is one thing. There had been many pandemics before and people abided by the rules even if they didn't like it. I mean, can't we all just follow the rules and sacrifice our old habits for everyone's sake? 

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