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6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

There may not be "clean coal"

There is no clean coal. Period. Whether or not our coal is cleaner than other countries or past decades is irrelevant. It’s still dirty, bad for human health and bad for the environment...even at its supposed cleanest 

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Just so it's crystal clear where I'm coming from I'll let South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem spell it out for you.

Diversity of energy is our strength. And if you're hoping to cut coal out of equation with fear mongering pushing the idea of "ooh scary coal" while denying us the obvious observation of clear skies in the US and Canada well...it's you that's irrelevant.

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"Joe Biden’s youngest son, Hunter, has a long and muddled history of profiting from business interests tied to the former vice president’s political influence."

"2. Hunter Biden was on MBNA’s payroll while Joe Biden was writing bankruptcy reform legislation. 

In the early-2000s, Hunter Biden remained on MBNA’s payroll as a consultant while his father was writing and pushing the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. The arrangement, which did not become public until after the law was passed, started in 2001 after Hunter Biden had left his position in the Commerce Department. Hunter Biden was paid monthly consulting fees, with some claiming they ranged upwards of $100,000, to advise the company on online banking issues.

The 2005 bankruptcy law tightened regulations to make it extremely difficult to declare bankruptcy. The law was heavily favored by MBNA and other giants in the banking and finance sectors. Many consumer protection advocates, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), have claimed the bill benefited special interests at the expense of consumers. Some have even suggested the law only served to hasten and aggravate the recession of the late 2000s.

 

As previously reported by the New York Times, Biden worked against many of his own fellow Democrats in Congress to ensure the final version of the bill was free of provisions opposed by companies such as MBNA.

Biden “was one of five Democrats in March 2005 who voted against a proposal to require credit card companies to provide more effective warnings to consumers about the consequences of paying only the minimum amount due each month,” the Times noted."  

The mainstream media carefully avoided these scandals during the 2020 election campaign.

Five Times Hunter Biden’s Dealings Were Conflict of Interest for Joe Biden (breitbart.com)

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3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

It is if you're pushing a 'fear the CO2' narrative.

Are you?

CO2 is only one reason. All Pollution is inherently bad for a number of reasons therefore should be reduced  to the absolute minimum amount necessary and we should always be looking for new ways to reduce it further. Why is that so hard for you to understand?  
 

Oh because the right is funded by the fossil fuel industry. 

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2 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Just so it's crystal clear where I'm coming from I'll let South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem spell it out for you.

Diversity of energy is our strength. And if you're hoping to cut coal out of equation with fear mongering pushing the idea of "ooh scary coal" while denying us the obvious observation of clear skies in the US and Canada well...it's you that's irrelevant.

Wow LMAO I wondered what it would it take for a conservative to say “diversity is strength” given how much they love to bash the word diversity. Big money from the Fossil fuel industry is what it takes I guess. 
 

The claim that North America’s coal doesn’t pollute or affect human health is a ridiculous lie. 

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32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

"Joe Biden’s youngest son, Hunter, has a long and muddled history of profiting from business interests tied to the former vice president’s political influence."

"2. Hunter Biden was on MBNA’s payroll while Joe Biden was writing bankruptcy reform legislation. 

In the early-2000s, Hunter Biden remained on MBNA’s payroll as a consultant while his father was writing and pushing the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. The arrangement, which did not become public until after the law was passed, started in 2001 after Hunter Biden had left his position in the Commerce Department. Hunter Biden was paid monthly consulting fees, with some claiming they ranged upwards of $100,000, to advise the company on online banking issues.

The 2005 bankruptcy law tightened regulations to make it extremely difficult to declare bankruptcy. The law was heavily favored by MBNA and other giants in the banking and finance sectors. Many consumer protection advocates, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), have claimed the bill benefited special interests at the expense of consumers. Some have even suggested the law only served to hasten and aggravate the recession of the late 2000s.

 

As previously reported by the New York Times, Biden worked against many of his own fellow Democrats in Congress to ensure the final version of the bill was free of provisions opposed by companies such as MBNA.

Biden “was one of five Democrats in March 2005 who voted against a proposal to require credit card companies to provide more effective warnings to consumers about the consequences of paying only the minimum amount due each month,” the Times noted."  

The mainstream media carefully avoided these scandals during the 2020 election campaign.

Five Times Hunter Biden’s Dealings Were Conflict of Interest for Joe Biden (breitbart.com)

So I guess the moral of the story is if your dad’s a senator you must remain unemployed lest your dad  work on some legislation that somehow benefits your employer. 

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35 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

So I guess the moral of the story is if your dad’s a senator you must remain unemployed lest your dad  work on some legislation that somehow benefits your employer. 

You didn't read the five ways Hunter benefited greatly from his political connections through Joe Biden, not just when he was a Senator but also later when he became a vice President.  Corruption. and conflicts of interest is standard fare.  They have a long history of milking the system.

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Just now, blackbird said:

You didn't read the five ways Hunter benefited greatly from his political connections through Joe Biden.  Corruption. and conflicts of interest is standard fare. 

Good thing George Bush Sr. and Donald Trump didn’t have any children eh?

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2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Good thing George Bush Sr. and Donald Trump didn’t have any children eh?

I don't see any similarity there.   You didn't read the article and see how the conflicts of interest and large amounts of money were paid to Hunter Biden in the different connections.  Don't waste our time if you can't be bothered to read the information.

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On 2/27/2021 at 7:33 AM, BeaverFever said:

Equating burning coal to breathing. 🙄

This is the kind of right-wing idiocy that society has to deal with

WOW YOUR POST IS JUST BURSTING WITH FACTS AND INTELLIGENT COUNTERPOINTS!

Just kidding. It was just run of the mill leftist idiocy.

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This is scary.  This guy is actually president.

He also gets one of the congresswomen’s names wrong.  She’s been in Congress for decades.

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

WOW YOUR POST IS JUST BURSTING WITH FACTS AND INTELLIGENT COUNTERPOINTS!

Just kidding. It was just run of the mill leftist idiocy.

Seriously if you can’t tell the difference between living organisms exhaling and inhaling in a balanced interdependent ecosystem, and burning fossil fuels then you’re a fucking idiot and there’s no helping you.  Your ignorance is a direct consequence of you dropping out of school all those decades ago.  It’s not something I can reverse through an internet chat forum. 

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5 hours ago, blackbird said:

I don't see any similarity there.   You didn't read the article and see how the conflicts of interest and large amounts of money were paid to Hunter Biden in the different connections.  Don't waste our time if you can't be bothered to read the information.

Really?  The young Bush Jr had numerous do-nothing corporate board of director jobs on account of his daddy being VP and president and companies wanting to have access.  Joe Biden was one of 538 members of Congress who work on dozens of bills relating to the financial sector in any given year. His son worked an obscure job in the financial sector at a middling company in an industry that has thousands of companies large and small, many far larger and more influential than MBNA and there’s not even any evidence offered that MBNA or Hunter were involved with this supposed bill or directly benefited from it its all just sloppy innuendo 

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27 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Really?  The young Bush Jr had numerous do-nothing corporate board of director jobs on account of his daddy being VP and president and companies wanting to have access.  Joe Biden was one of 538 members of Congress who work on dozens of bills relating to the financial sector in any given year. His son worked an obscure job in the financial sector at a middling company in an industry that has thousands of companies large and small, many far larger and more influential than MBNA and there’s not even any evidence offered that MBNA or Hunter were involved with this supposed bill or directly benefited from it its all just sloppy innuendo 

How about this?

"4. Hunter Biden’s firm scored a $1.5 billion deal with the Bank of China only days after his father paid an official visit to the country. 

As Peter Schweizer, a senior contributor at Breitbart News, revealed in his bestselling book — Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends — Hunter Biden inked a multi-billion dollar deal with a subsidiary of the state-owned Bank of China in 2013. The deal, which was the first of its kind, created a private equity fund, Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) to invest Chinese money overseas.

The timing of the lucrative deal has been brought into question as it came only 12 days after Hunter visited China with his father aboard Air Force Two. Officially, the then-vice president was visiting the country amid escalating tensions over islands in the South China Sea and decided to bring his granddaughter and son along. In a March 2018 interview with Breitbart News Tonight, however, Schweizer detailed the political machinations that preceded Hunter Biden’s $1.5 billion venture with China. Schweizer said:

In December of 2013, Vice President Joe Biden flies to Asia for a trip, and the centerpiece for that trip is a visit to Beijing, China. To put this into context, in 2013, the Chinese have just exerted air rights over the South Pacific, the South China Sea. They basically have said, ‘If you want to fly in this area, you have to get Chinese approval. We are claiming sovereignty over this territory.’ Highly controversial in Japan, in the Philippines, and in other countries. Joe Biden is supposed to be going there to confront the Chinese. Well, he gets widely criticized on that trip for going soft on China. So basically, no challenging them, and Japan and other countries are quite upset about this.

Since its creation, BHR has invested heavily in energy and defense projects across the globe. As of June, Hunter Biden is still involved with BHR, sitting on its board of directors and owning a minority stake of the fund estimated to be worth more than $430,000."

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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Seriously if you can’t tell the difference between living organisms exhaling and inhaling in a balanced interdependent ecosystem, and burning fossil fuels then you’re a fucking idiot and there’s no helping you.  Your ignorance is a direct consequence of you dropping out of school all those decades ago.  It’s not something I can reverse through an internet chat forum. 

You need to go live in an area where you don't need to heat your house or drive a car so that you can stop whining, and I'm obviously not the one who's lacking an education or an honest, intelligent opinion.

Face the facts: you need to be posting in a liberal echo chamber in order to be happy beave. You'll be able to bask in the glory of Trudeau, CNN, Biden and CTV, and no one there will question the testimony of Dr Ford types & "anonymous sources".  You can even mourn the murder of Suleimani together without being ridiculed. It's heaven on earth I tell you beave. 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You need to go live in an area where you don't need to heat your house or drive a car so that you can stop whining, and I'm obviously not the one who's lacking an education or an honest, intelligent opinion.

Face the facts: you need to be posting in a liberal echo chamber in order to be happy beave. You'll be able to bask in the glory of Trudeau, CNN, Biden and CTV, and no one there will question the testimony of Dr Ford types & "anonymous sources".  You can even mourn the murder of Suleimani together without being ridiculed. It's heaven on earth I tell you beave. 

Yeah you clearly are lacking an education and it shows. Sorry it’s just a fact. 

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3 hours ago, blackbird said:

How about this?

"4. Hunter Biden’s firm scored a $1.5 billion deal with the Bank of China only days after his father paid an official visit to the country. 

As Peter Schweizer, a senior contributor at Breitbart News, revealed in his bestselling book — Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends — Hunter Biden inked a multi-billion dollar deal with a subsidiary of the state-owned Bank of China in 2013. The deal, which was the first of its kind, created a private equity fund, Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) to invest Chinese money overseas.

The timing of the lucrative deal has been brought into question as it came only 12 days after Hunter visited China with his father aboard Air Force Two. Officially, the then-vice president was visiting the country amid escalating tensions over islands in the South China Sea and decided to bring his granddaughter and son along. In a March 2018 interview with Breitbart News Tonight, however, Schweizer detailed the political machinations that preceded Hunter Biden’s $1.5 billion venture with China. Schweizer said:

In December of 2013, Vice President Joe Biden flies to Asia for a trip, and the centerpiece for that trip is a visit to Beijing, China. To put this into context, in 2013, the Chinese have just exerted air rights over the South Pacific, the South China Sea. They basically have said, ‘If you want to fly in this area, you have to get Chinese approval. We are claiming sovereignty over this territory.’ Highly controversial in Japan, in the Philippines, and in other countries. Joe Biden is supposed to be going there to confront the Chinese. Well, he gets widely criticized on that trip for going soft on China. So basically, no challenging them, and Japan and other countries are quite upset about this.

Since its creation, BHR has invested heavily in energy and defense projects across the globe. As of June, Hunter Biden is still involved with BHR, sitting on its board of directors and owning a minority stake of the fund estimated to be worth more than $430,000."

Well the actual dollar amounts are speculative (and I wouldn’t put any stock in any figures coming from right wing sources considering their dishonesty). 
 

But isn’t it interesting that  you don’t object to Trumps business dealings in China, including when China fast tracked Ivankas very lucrative trademark applications once Trump got elected and Ivanka got a white house job. 

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9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Well the actual dollar amounts are speculative (and I wouldn’t put any stock in any figures coming from right wing sources considering their dishonesty). 
 

But isn’t it interesting that  you don’t object to Trumps business dealings in China, including when China fast tracked Ivankas very lucrative trademark applications once Trump got elected and Ivanka got a white house job. 

 

9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Well the actual dollar amounts are speculative (and I wouldn’t put any stock in any figures coming from right wing sources considering their dishonesty). 
 

But isn’t it interesting that  you don’t object to Trumps business dealings in China, including when China fast tracked Ivankas very lucrative trademark applications once Trump got elected and Ivanka got a white house job. 

So you only consider left wing sources as honest?  That's a surprise because it is the left wing that kills millions of unborn babies and supports biological men using women's washrooms and changing rooms.  These are the immoral people you trust.  On the race for corruption and immorality, I think the Democrats won the race long ago.

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8 hours ago, blackbird said:

 

So you only consider left wing sources as honest?  That's a surprise because it is the left wing that kills millions of unborn babies and supports biological men using women's washrooms and changing rooms.  These are the immoral people you trust.  On the race for corruption and immorality, I think the Democrats won the race long ago.

Yes Abortion is and should be legal.   That’s a battle you lost long ago and it’s never coming back.
 

Transgendered people have always used whichever bathroom they choose throughout all history. That you think you can suddenly prevent this now is hilarious. Will you be signing up for the new bathroom police?  Given all the people on the religious right who end up exposed as  perverts and sexual predators I’m sure thee will be no shortage of Christian conservative volunteers eager to start patrolling restrooms and inspecting genitalia 

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