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Just now, Aristides said:

Not true. Canada designed and built all its own destroyers and frigates from the 50's to the present Halifax class.

 

Very true...last decade...no navy ships.  

Canada has lost the ability to design and build competent warships...more importantly and alarming, Canada has lost the will to do so.

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Very true...last decade...no navy ships.  

Canada has lost the ability to design and build competent warships...more importantly and alarming, Canada has lost the will to do so.

 

Aye...the good old days when we were #3 Navy-wise.

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Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

Ideal hospital ships for our many humanitarian missions.

 

Nah....Canada prefers to spend more money on used junk from other nations.   Except for those CC-177s that Harper bought over Liberal objections.   Smart move....

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Nah....Canada prefers to spend more money on used junk from other nations.   Except for those CC-177s that Harper bought over Liberal objections.   Smart move....

 

They were both at fire sale prices that even Egypt could afford...

But, yes...Canada Joe Bidened that up as well.

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Just now, Aristides said:

Only in number of ships. We were a small ship navy. A couple of escort carriers and two heavy cruisers were our largest WW2 ships.

 

Yes...a real force that would need to be dealt with rather than brushed-off as insignificant. Like...say...the Red Chinese view us now.

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1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

They were both at fire sale prices that even Egypt could afford...

But, yes...Canada Joe Bidened that up as well.

 

Must be frustrating for Canadian Forces....rusty trucks...rusting submarines...corroding CF-188s...leased mongrel supply ships...museum grade rotary winged aircraft...a long list.

 

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4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

We need actual combat ships that can operate in the Arctic more.

 

Who says they can't? Russia commissioned them...an Artic nation. The Mistral is a very capable jeep carrier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral-class_amphibious_assault_ship

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Just now, Aristides said:

Destroyers, frigates and corvettes. No subs. Probably not.

 

Seeing that it's history...yeah, it did. We were the sub hunters...not the subs. Good ones, too.

Trudeau Sr killed the Navy off.

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8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Must be frustrating for Canadian Forces....rusty trucks...rusting submarines...corroding CF-188s...leased mongrel supply ships...museum grade rotary winged aircraft...a long list.

 

 

Don't get me started. First let's talk about Canada's incorporation into the US military...

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2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Seeing that it's history...yeah, it did. We were the sub hunters...not the subs. Good ones, too.

Trudeau Sr killed the Navy off.

I used to work with some ex Argus guys. They used to say that if you wanted to find a sub, just look for the column of smoke from the destroyer it just torpedoed.

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

There  is no indication they were to be used in the Arctic. The first ship was supposed to go to the Pacific.

 

Vladivostok is a cold ass place. Enjoy your vacation.

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7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Won't work...Canada has old radios and data links !

 

Seriously, that extra layer of command is always a bother. But my fellow Canadians have that hockey attitude. 

"If the Americans come, I'm headin' fer the forest with my 30.06."

Treat you guys like we treat the RCMP, only the Army...heh. What's the bill from the Pentagon?

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4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I used to work with some ex Argus guys. They used to say that if you wanted to find a sub, just look for the column of smoke from the destroyer it just torpedoed.

 

WW2...where the big navy comes from...we sank many a U-Boat.

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4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Seriously, that extra layer of command is always a bother. But my fellow Canadians have that hockey attitude. 

"If the Americans come, I'm headin' fer the forest with my 30.06."

 

The "funny" thing is that more Canadians were embarrassed by the inability to move DART to disaster areas like Indonesia and Haiti than anything military.   Harper got the heavy airlift for that and the chronic leasing of resources from Ukraine and others for A-stan.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The "funny" thing is that more Canadians were embarrassed by the inability to move DART to disaster areas like Indonesia and Haiti than anything military.   Harper got the heavy airlift for that and the chronic leasing of resources from Ukraine and others for A-stan.

 

Thus two Mistral class assault ships + Dr Nick.

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This is why I always liked diesel-electrics...damn nukes had to go to sea..often !

"Harder, Darter, Trigger, Trout...always in and never out."

 

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Canada's submarine fleet spent 'zero days' at sea last year: government documents

All four of Canada's submarines were tied up last year for repairs and maintenance — news that has the opposition Conservatives questioning whether the Liberal government can keep the second-hand fleet afloat for another two decades.

In response to a written question before Parliament, the Department of National Defence said the boats "spent zero days at sea" in 2019, but three of the four would return to service at some point this year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/submarines-canada-fleet-repairs-canadian-navy-1.5458632

 

 

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