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A Rebel News reporter published a non-classified document stating that the first suspected covid cases were in members of foreign militaries who visited China during the winter games.

Theoretically, that prompted a visti at his home by the RCMP.

As a media skeptic myself I'm not going to act like any of this is gospel truth, but if it is it's pretty huge.

 

Fascism much? I'm pretty sure that members of CTV don't get visited by the police every time they twist their narratives beyond recognition. 

 

If there's any truth that members of western militaries were targeted first then this was definitely a biological warfare attack. 

 

That's a lot of big news for one little blurb by Keane Beaxte or whatever his name is, if there's any truth to this.

 

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4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

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A Rebel News reporter published a non-classified document stating that the first suspected covid cases were in members of foreign militaries who visited China during the winter games.

Theoretically, that prompted a visti at his home by the RCMP.

As a media skeptic myself I'm not going to act like any of this is gospel truth, but if it is it's pretty huge.

 

Fascism much? I'm pretty sure that members of CTV don't get visited by the police every time they twist their narratives beyond recognition. 

 

If there's any truth that members of western militaries were targeted first then this was definitely a biological warfare attack. 

 

That's a lot of big news for one little blurb by Keane Beaxte or whatever his name is, if there's any truth to this.

 

I think it's important to be open to the idea that this was a deliberate attack.  We certainly don't know, and anyone who says that they do know, based on current public information, is either ignorant or dishonest.   

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On 1/27/2021 at 10:08 PM, Zeitgeist said:

I think it's important to be open to the idea that this was a deliberate attack.  We certainly don't know, and anyone who says that they do know, based on current public information, is either ignorant or dishonest.   

Trump's trade war with China may not have been enough to spark this, but Trump bragging that he won the trade war definitely added to the likelihood that China would find a way to retaliate. 

This virus helped China in two ways: 1) culling their own population and 2) shutting down America's booming economy.

Right when this virus came from China I was mentioning that the Chinese government wasn't shy about killing millions of their own citizens in the 40s and 50s, and they were 'taking action against 2nd babies' in the last few generations to curb population growth, so if they found a virus that just killed the very elderly & unhealthy, IE people who are a drain on society, I wouldn't put it past them to let it ravage their own population. 

The fact that there are so many obese, unhealthy Americans makes it seem as if covid was tailor-made to target the US as well.

Covid was a win-win for China imo. 

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6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump's trade war with China may not have been enough to spark this, but Trump bragging that he won the trade war definitely added to the likelihood that China would find a way to retaliate. 

This virus helped China in two ways: 1) culling their own population and 2) shutting down America's booming economy.

Right when this virus came from China I was mentioning that the Chinese government wasn't shy about killing millions of their own citizens in the 40s and 50s, and they were 'taking action against 2nd babies' in the last few generations to curb population growth, so if they found a virus that just killed the very elderly & unhealthy, IE people who are a drain on society, I wouldn't put it past them to let it ravage their own population. 

The fact that there are so many obese, unhealthy Americans makes it seem as if covid was tailor-made to target the US as well.

Covid was a win-win for China imo. 

Well it's looking highly likely that the virus came from the Wuhan lab.  I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to practice their pandemic response on their own people.  They now have a more scientific excuse to control their population and force the hands of governments to control their respective populations.  Want to prevent people from reproducing?  Want to slash greenhouse gas emissions?  Want to accelerate working and learning remotely to restrict movement?   It's all right here wrapped in a bow.

Peoples are embracing restrictions out of legitimate fear.  We are totally beholden to pharmaceutical tech.  However, I won't be convinced that the restrictions will end until they do. Again, beware of new variants or mutations becoming the excuse to continue emergency measures, which are an extreme violation of human rights.  Once all vulnerable people are vaccinated and 70% of the population is vaccinated, restrictions must be lifted unconditionally.  If there are resistant strains at that point, we have to create a pathway for the vulnerable to stay home and live under protection while everyone else gets back to normal or else our economy and quality of life will be destroyed.  

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7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The fact that there are so many obese, unhealthy Americans makes it seem as if covid was tailor-made to target the US as well.

 

 

Not very precise targeting....healthy and unhealthy people around the world were also impacted.   The U.S. economy only shrank by 3.5% in 2020...less than Canada's estimated 5%.

China will need to come up with a better idea to kill America.

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34 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not very precise targeting....healthy and unhealthy people around the world were also impacted.   The U.S. economy only shrank by 3.5% in 2020...less than Canada's estimated 5%.

China will need to come up with a better idea to kill America.

Impacted, sure, but the big mortality numbers that covid put up, which stopped the economy, came from the very elderly and very sick.

The effect that covid had on healthy people wouldn't have been enough to warrant any change to the economy, or schools. 

Eg, 2,000 American children died from the swine flu when Obama was president and there were no lockdowns. Less than 200 American children died from covid. There definitely wouldn't be lockdowns at the level we're seeing here from covid if not for the effect that it had on the diseased/elderly. 

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5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

...There definitely wouldn't be lockdowns at the level we're seeing here from covid if not for the effect that it had on the diseased/elderly. 

 

Lockdowns varied by country and even within countries.   There was no uniform response even in the face of rising numbers.   U.S. mortality is actually lower than in some other nations based on confirmed testing cases.

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1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not very precise targeting....healthy and unhealthy people around the world were also impacted.   The U.S. economy only shrank by 3.5% in 2020...less than Canada's estimated 5%.

China will need to come up with a better idea to kill America.

The US has more than twice the death rate of Canada.  However, the US is vaccinating at a faster rate, despite all the Canadian preorders.  Trudeau was foolish not to push for and fund domestic vaccine manufacturing.  Once again, relying on outside sources has made Canadians vulnerable.  

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9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The US has more than twice the death rate of Canada.  However, the US is vaccinating at a faster rate, despite all the Canadian preorders.  Trudeau was foolish not to push for and fund domestic vaccine manufacturing.  Once again, relying on outside sources has made Canadians vulnerable.  

 

 

Canada's government chose to partner with China for a vaccine at first (CanSino), only to lose that bet and get in late on contracts from other sources.  Canadians in country were not even part of large scale Phase 3 vaccine testing until recently. 

 

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7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

 

Canada's government chose to partner with China for a vaccine at first (CanSino), only to lose that bet and get in late on contracts from other sources.  Canadians in country were not even part of large scale Phase 3 vaccine testing until recently. 

 

Yup.  I find it strange that when Canada was a much smaller country, its leaders were more intent on ensuring relative independence in key areas.  We should be building Energy East at least as far as refineries in Ontario and diversifying our trade, especially as the border hardens, China reneged on her vaccine partnership, Trump tried to hoard PPE (after imposing steel and aluminum tariffs), and Keystone XL is again on the chopping block under the Dems.

The Meng affair again exposed Canada's vulnerability as expendable collateral damage in trade/military competitions between superpowers.  Canada must have complete energy, food, military, and health capacity for her population in order to truly chart her own course, or else Canada will always be choosing between bedfellows who won't hesitate to push her out of the bed in times of crisis.

We're approaching the economy of scale of a 1950's Britain or France.  Relying on progressive rhetoric and the kindness of others doesn't cut it.  We've done better in the past.  Trudeau is naive. 

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yup.  I find it strange that when Canada was a much smaller country, its leaders were more intent on ensuring relative independence in key areas.  We should be building Energy East at least as far as refineries in Ontario and diversifying our trade, especially as the border hardens, China reneged on her vaccine partnership, Trump tried to hoard PPE (after imposing steel and aluminum tariffs), and Keystone XL is again on the chopping block under the Dems.

 

This is a recurring theme...Canada has experienced the same lesson again and again but is not likely to get wiser with the present government and like minded coalition parties.   It is difficult to even get full transparency in the policy process and decision making, and the opposition's only recourse is to make a stink in the press/media.

Trudeau had been naive (and weak) for a long time before COVID, but he remains as a wounded placeholder PM because the CPC opposition has not mounted a viable federal alternative.   Trudeau has been able to limp along no matter what, and it remains to be seen if the spending spree debt and limits on Charter Rights will be enough to topple his minority government.   Not even another AdScam would work today (see "WE scandal").

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2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

This is a recurring theme...Canada has experienced the same lesson again and again but is not likely to get wiser with the present government and like minded coalition parties.   It is difficult to even get full transparency in the policy process and decision making, and the opposition's only recourse is to make a stink in the press/media.

Trudeau had been naive (and weak) for a long time before COVID, but he remains as a wounded placeholder PM because the CPC opposition has not mounted a viable federal alternative.   Trudeau has been able to limp along no matter what, and it remains to be seen if the spending spree debt and limits on Charter Rights will be enough to topple his minority government.   Not even another AdScam would work today (see "WE scandal").

All true.  Trudeau's government is built on woke rhetoric and identity politics that's inauthentic upon close scrutiny because Trudeau couldn't contend with the forces his government unleashed.  We saw this when train supply lines ground to a halt and natural gas pipeline construction stopped due to radical left protests before the pandemic. Harper knew that inquiries would trudge up the same findings as police investigations, but more importantly, they would be hijacked by a slew of dubious causes from Marxism to the dismantling of Canada itself.

There is only so much time and energy available to governments to draft policy.  Rather than creating opportunities for Indigenous by facilitating resource development and building the health, transportation, food, and military infrastructure that would increase the wealth, health, and security of all Canadians, we have divisive race and gender-based policies that make employee relations and relationships in general about race over other considerations such as poverty.  It's a retrograde return to segregation and social tension at a time when very real socio-economic class tensions must be addressed to ensure that the privileged don't have greater health protections in a pandemic.  Race comes into the equation only inasmuch as it negatively impacts economic opportunity, yet we know that privilege exists across all racial/ethnic groups.   

As always, it's about opportunity.  The leaders of BLM understand this, but they are Marxists.  The important question government should be asking is what mixture of government intervention and free market capitalism creates the most economic opportunity for the most people across all racial/ethnic/economic groups and genders?  Niche policies that create winners and losers are divisive.  Trudeau stokes those fires.

Trudeau has also used climate change action rhetoric to justify choking off economic opportunity in a marketplace where the resource and manufacturing sectors were already struggling and energy was already becoming unaffordable.   Only sell as much of the farm as you need to.  Trudeau hasn't figured that out and the debts with which future generations of Canadians will be saddled are mounting at a staggering rate.  

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2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 As always, it's about opportunity.  The leaders of BLM understand this, but they are Marxists.  The important question government should be asking is what mixture of government intervention and free market capitalism creates the most economic opportunity for the most people across all racial/ethnic/economic groups and genders?  Niche policies that create winners and losers are divisive.  Trudeau stokes those fires.

 

Trudeau benefited from the huge Canadian backlash against Trump, repeatedly getting passes for multiple transgressions, and doubling down on the virtue signaling, even as the economy faltered.   Trump taught the Canadian government a valuable lesson that may or may not translate into more independent policy and actions.  The problem now is that they can no longer point at Trump for their troubles and moral superiority, and the new American president kicked Canada in the teeth on his first day in office.

In engineering, we use environmental stress testing to improve designs, parts, and manufacturing processes...governments are being challenged now with severe social, economic, and political stressors that should (but doesn't always) separate the contenders from the pretenders.  Equality of opportunity does not means equality of outcomes, but it can translate into campaign rhetoric and votes.

"Canada First" is too much hardcore American style, but the right leader could succeed with a  tempered Canadian version to push back against the U.S., China, Russia, and EU policies.   The word "allies" only applies in specific, narrow contexts...it is not a excuse or substitute for competition and national interests.

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8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The Meng affair again exposed Canada's vulnerability as expendable collateral damage in trade/military competitions between superpowers.  Canada must have complete energy, food, military, and health capacity for her population in order to truly chart her own course, or else Canada will always be choosing between bedfellows who won't hesitate to push her out of the bed in times of crisis.

We're approaching the economy of scale of a 1950's Britain or France.  Relying on progressive rhetoric and the kindness of others doesn't cut it.  We've done better in the past.  Trudeau is naive. 

I think Canada's vulnerability was exposed long before China was a NATO talking point, back as far back as the 70's and 80's our NATO allies were discussing Canada's lack of interest in it's own security apparatus  behind closed doors, not long after that, they were telling us straight to our faces for decades,to get our shit together, every president has told or urged Canada to expand it's security systems as they were a weak spot not only for NATO but NORAD and all our other defensive pacts we have signed on to.

The fact that the US protects the majority of the North American continent is very telling. What disappoints me the most is it is a source of Canadian pride that we get a free ride. And the only time Joe Public says anything about the issue is when someone embarrasses personally.    As for it's health care system has been in decline before that and slipping rapidly ever since,  while we still tell one another that atleast it is better than the American health care system, when most Canadians don't really know where our health care system stands. Like everything else in this country it has suffered from the lack of funding, and has fell on life support. and instead of fixing it we invent new social programs as a band aid fix.

With all the money Justin has spent todate we could have fixed all of these problems and then some...

Today we have the very country the majority of Canadians want, nothing more, nothing less, we have exactly what we deserve. The left has declared war on anything right, it has given power to left wing interest groups allowing them to dictate to the rest of the country, what is best? and they are winning as the right has sat down and threw up its hands like it is now hopeless and to late. This is not Justins fault, this falls firmly on the feet of the right, Justin just took advantage for his benefit.  

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On 1/31/2021 at 12:21 AM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not very precise targeting....healthy and unhealthy people around the world were also impacted.   The U.S. economy only shrank by 3.5% in 2020...less than Canada's estimated 5%.

China will need to come up with a better idea to kill America.

Well, for one thing, China's economy grew about 3%. And that's why it's becoming clear now that the US increased saber-rattling and military threats against China are not motivated by much else than being stuck in the ditch, while China takes the lead of the Capitalist World Order.

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1 minute ago, Right To Left said:

Well, for one thing, China's economy grew about 3%. And that's why it's becoming clear now that the US increased saber-rattling and military threats against China are not motivated by much else than being stuck in the ditch, while China takes the lead of the Capitalist World Order.

 

China is not there yet...its currency is not strong enough yet to displace U.S. dollar hegemony.    5,000 years and still counting....sooner or later they may figure it out.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

China is not there yet...its currency is not strong enough yet to displace U.S. dollar hegemony.    5,000 years and still counting....sooner or later they may figure it out.

 

 

I don't believe the global capitalist order has much longer on its shelf life anyway, but I can't foresee how long all this will last.

Anyway, the shift away from Bush's War On Terror to Obama's Pivot To Asia did not get much analysis when the policy shift was first announced....like what the hell does "pivot" to Asia mean in the first place?

But, when it was time to hand over to Trump and the Republicans, it turned out to mean 'try to squeeze China economically, militarily with regime change ops on Chinese business partners (Sudan), and politically, through continual barrages of charges of Chinese war crimes against every ethnicity inside China.

And now that we're in the new Joe Era, it doesn't look like much has changed, aside from a toning down of the rhetoric coming out of the White House. But aside from those superficial aspects, there are no signs yet that the Biden China policy will be any different than Trump's. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd suspect the managers within DOD, CIA and State Dept. carry on like little changes whenever there's a color change from blue to red and back again in the political administration.

But, whatever else happens, I want to stick a fork in this Epoch Times/Rebel News agenda now that is trying to convince us that we have to fear Chinese invasion....now that they've weakened us with their disease!  

When the WHO issues their report from their limited visits and testing done in China, to find the source of the Sars-Cov-2 virus, then maybe, we'll have something factual to go on. Up till now, as soon as the gloating over the Covid-19 outbreak first hit the Wuhan district of China over a year ago, it quickly morphed into The Chinese Created A New Disease To Kill US  as soon as the plague traveled to the west and has hit the US with a vengeance. And most of the rapid spread and no.1 death tolls can be blamed on the shear stupidity of your own countrymen and their political and thought leaders, especially the long worship of selfish capitalist principles, that react with hostility to any attempts to get people to work together for common purpose....like stopping the spread of a highly contagious and extremely dangerous new disease!

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1 hour ago, Right To Left said:

I don't believe the global capitalist order has much longer on its shelf life anyway, but I can't foresee how long all this will last.

Anyway, the shift away from Bush's War On Terror to Obama's Pivot To Asia did not get much analysis when the policy shift was first announced....like what the hell does "pivot" to Asia mean in the first place?

But, when it was time to hand over to Trump and the Republicans, it turned out to mean 'try to squeeze China economically, militarily with regime change ops on Chinese business partners (Sudan), and politically, through continual barrages of charges of Chinese war crimes against every ethnicity inside China.

And now that we're in the new Joe Era, it doesn't look like much has changed, aside from a toning down of the rhetoric coming out of the White House. But aside from those superficial aspects, there are no signs yet that the Biden China policy will be any different than Trump's. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd suspect the managers within DOD, CIA and State Dept. carry on like little changes whenever there's a color change from blue to red and back again in the political administration.

But, whatever else happens, I want to stick a fork in this Epoch Times/Rebel News agenda now that is trying to convince us that we have to fear Chinese invasion....now that they've weakened us with their disease!  

When the WHO issues their report from their limited visits and testing done in China, to find the source of the Sars-Cov-2 virus, then maybe, we'll have something factual to go on. Up till now, as soon as the gloating over the Covid-19 outbreak first hit the Wuhan district of China over a year ago, it quickly morphed into The Chinese Created A New Disease To Kill US  as soon as the plague traveled to the west and has hit the US with a vengeance. And most of the rapid spread and no.1 death tolls can be blamed on the shear stupidity of your own countrymen and their political and thought leaders, especially the long worship of selfish capitalist principles, that react with hostility to any attempts to get people to work together for common purpose....like stopping the spread of a highly contagious and extremely dangerous new disease!

You seem very pro China.  Perhaps on the payroll?   I won't hesitate to say that we have very radically shifted from a laissez-faire capitalist liberal democracy to Chinese-style totalitarian surveillance capitalism.  I suspect that restrictions of one form or another will remain going forward.  The virus has provided the sensible grounds to impose them and the game out of Chinese central planning may be hatching new justifications for greater government control.  Constitutional protections and human rights are suspended.  My fear is that they will continue to be suspended and any serious attempts to rally political opposition will be cast as a security threat.  I hope I'm wrong, but I think we have reason to worry.   

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2 hours ago, Right To Left said:

.... And most of the rapid spread and no.1 death tolls can be blamed on the shear stupidity of your own countrymen and their political and thought leaders, especially the long worship of selfish capitalist principles, that react with hostility to any attempts to get people to work together for common purpose....like stopping the spread of a highly contagious and extremely dangerous new disease!

 

Many western nations reacted the same way....there are more Covid deaths in the EU than in the USA.

Over 15,000,000 Chinese nationals died partially due to government incompetence when invaded by the Imperial Japanese Army.   The evil American capitalists and other allies helped China out with that problem.

  

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On 1/30/2021 at 10:32 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Once all vulnerable people are vaccinated and 70% of the population is vaccinated, restrictions must be lifted unconditionally.

Lately we hear the authorities saying it must reach 90% before they will relent.

That means, you better get vaccinated or else you're part of the reason we are under shutdown. You selfish bastard!

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On 2/3/2021 at 6:04 PM, Zeitgeist said:

You seem very pro China.  Perhaps on the payroll?   I won't hesitate to say that we have very radically shifted from a laissez-faire capitalist liberal democracy to Chinese-style totalitarian surveillance capitalism.  I suspect that restrictions of one form or another will remain going forward.  The virus has provided the sensible grounds to impose them and the game out of Chinese central planning may be hatching new justifications for greater government control.  Constitutional protections and human rights are suspended.  My fear is that they will continue to be suspended and any serious attempts to rally political opposition will be cast as a security threat.  I hope I'm wrong, but I think we have reason to worry.   

Right! Saying something "pro-China" means being on the Chinese Government payroll. Or another theory might be that anyone looking at the evidence would notice that China had to deal with this new coronavirus the earliest...which is the main reason why it's assumed by epidemiologists to have started in Northern China first, before it became widespread. 

I'm not calling for a Communist Chinese takeover here, my point is that they acted quickly and succeeded to stop the spread of the virus early, using methods that are considered extreme over here.....but, maybe that's what you have to do if you don't want to be ravaged by a contagious, rapidly spreading new disease! 

The problem in Canada, the US and EUtopia is that the keystone cops leading our governments can't bullshit their way around the fact that they have been trying to do as little as possible to stop Covid-19. Once we learned what the term "flattening the curve" meant, then it should have been plainly obvious that western politicians in every country are just paid spokesmodels for the monied elites fighting to see who gets to be richest and most powerful. The last thing the billionaire oligarchs will allow is any pandemic response that will threaten their profitability and earnings! 

And speaking of serving the oligarchy, Big Pharma now runs vaccine creation and promotion...even though some of the companies (like Moderna) did NOTHING to fund the research for a Covid-19 vaccine! They just swoop in afterwards and take all of the free, publicly-funded research and slap a patent on it before sending it off to the marketing department to sell. 

And after all the BS propaganda we have been deluged with over the past year, we learn that the Sputnik V vaccine developed in Russia has a higher success rate and very low frequency of reported side effects, compared with the ones being made by the billionaire drug companies. As for the vaccines created in China, I'm not sure if there have been any definitive conclusions drawn yet, but according to a recent report published in the Lancet, it is over 90% effective. So it's right up there with the claimed efficacy of Pfizer's and a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to distribute and use, since it doesn't have to be contained in special sub-zero freezers that will keep it as a product for the wealthy first world nations. 

Vaccine nationalism is the worst development now of this renewed Cold War that's been ginned up to restart the wars, the arms race and ramping up missile and drone production now, because the whole point to mass inoculation of the population is to prevent and eradicate a dangerous disease. If large pockets of population groups are left without vaccination, or worse -- are deliberately prevented from receiving vaccines, along with other embargoes and sanctions of targeted nations, then if the west thinks the new coronavirus is gone and forgotten, it's continued spread allowed to denigrate living conditions in Yemen, Venezuela, Syria, and other extreme sanctions targets, will bring it right back again as new variants of Covid-19 rise up that are highly vaccine-resistant.

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On 1/30/2021 at 10:32 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Well it's looking highly likely that the virus came from the Wuhan lab.  I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to practice their pandemic response on their own people.  They now have a more scientific excuse to control their population and force the hands of governments to control their respective populations.  Want to prevent people from reproducing?  Want to slash greenhouse gas emissions?  Want to accelerate working and learning remotely to restrict movement?   It's all right here wrapped in a bow.

Peoples are embracing restrictions out of legitimate fear.  We are totally beholden to pharmaceutical tech.  However, I won't be convinced that the restrictions will end until they do. Again, beware of new variants or mutations becoming the excuse to continue emergency measures, which are an extreme violation of human rights.  Once all vulnerable people are vaccinated and 70% of the population is vaccinated, restrictions must be lifted unconditionally.  If there are resistant strains at that point, we have to create a pathway for the vulnerable to stay home and live under protection while everyone else gets back to normal or else our economy and quality of life will be destroyed.  

Here's some food for thought:

 

When will life return to normal? In 7 years at today's vaccine ratesIn Canada it's going to take more than 10 years at this rate

 

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3 hours ago, Right To Left said:

As always, Canada is the naive Boy Scout that gets sucker-punched.  China stole key research from Canada's National Research Council before reneging on their vaccine deal.  Vaccine nationalism?   How about governments do their best to use their citizens' money to save their citizens' lives? That's fundamental and what Trudeau didn't expect from other countries.  Well guess what?  That's why countries exist.

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On 2/6/2021 at 12:12 AM, Zeitgeist said:

As always, Canada is the naive Boy Scout that gets sucker-punched.  China stole key research from Canada's National Research Council before reneging on their vaccine deal.  Vaccine nationalism?   How about governments do their best to use their citizens' money to save their citizens' lives? That's fundamental and what Trudeau didn't expect from other countries.  Well guess what?  That's why countries exist.

So China STOLE Canada's vaccine research and development capabilities back when Mulroney got the bright idea of privatizing Connaught Labs (bought by American company)! Giving up this key advantage Canada once had in medical research, and exactly what has the NRC done to restore Canada's vaccine research since then, aside from saying they "are working in partnership" with a couple of US companies to try to develop Covid-19 vaccines and treatments. 

https://nrc.canada.ca/en/covid-19-response-vaccines-therapeutics 

And, we got to deep six this old time-honored Liberal theme of downtrodden, naive Canada struggling to do its best in the world. Even the US officials always end up saying 'we meant well' when their blown up military strategies fall apart and completely expose them...WMD's in Iraq was not that long ago actually! 

In reality, Canadian governments, including our present wimpish-sounding Prime Minister who's always trying to sound concerned and self-effacing as he signs Canada on with US regime change ops like Venezuela for instance. All the trapclap about Trump aside, Canada was first in line to declare handpicked puppet - Juan Guido as the real president of Venezuela.

What's in it for Canada? Not heavy crude, no it's gold, diamonds and other minerals being discovered in Southern Venezuela's stretch of the Amazon River...already being coveted by our gold mining companies. Their bids will easily be approved by Rubberstamp Guido if the US is ever actually able to install him in power. The US will take the oil, Canada gets the gold, and other compliant allies of the "Lima Group" like US vassal - Colombia, will be in to carve out their share of the take. Guido and Venezuela's oligarchs will get their take, and the only ones left out will be the Venezuelan people.....especially the natives of Amazonia, which Venezuela has been the last nation left protecting their territories! 

So, long story short, Canada's national myth and image is just a facade that hides the reality of a soc-dem nation that spends too much time celebrating its mythical character while avoiding and refusing to comment or criticizing the actions of US military and "soft" power exercised around the world that makes our overblown image and creature comforts possible!

 

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4 hours ago, Right To Left said:

So China STOLE Canada's vaccine research and development capabilities back when Mulroney got the bright idea of privatizing Connaught Labs (bought by American company)! Giving up this key advantage Canada once had in medical research, and exactly what has the NRC done to restore Canada's vaccine research since then, aside from saying they "are working in partnership" with a couple of US companies to try to develop Covid-19 vaccines and treatments. 

https://nrc.canada.ca/en/covid-19-response-vaccines-therapeutics 

And, we got to deep six this old time-honored Liberal theme of downtrodden, naive Canada struggling to do its best in the world. Even the US officials always end up saying 'we meant well' when their blown up military strategies fall apart and completely expose them...WMD's in Iraq was not that long ago actually! 

In reality, Canadian governments, including our present wimpish-sounding Prime Minister who's always trying to sound concerned and self-effacing as he signs Canada on with US regime change ops like Venezuela for instance. All the trapclap about Trump aside, Canada was first in line to declare handpicked puppet - Juan Guido as the real president of Venezuela.

What's in it for Canada? Not heavy crude, no it's gold, diamonds and other minerals being discovered in Southern Venezuela's stretch of the Amazon River...already being coveted by our gold mining companies. Their bids will easily be approved by Rubberstamp Guido if the US is ever actually able to install him in power. The US will take the oil, Canada gets the gold, and other compliant allies of the "Lima Group" like US vassal - Colombia, will be in to carve out their share of the take. Guido and Venezuela's oligarchs will get their take, and the only ones left out will be the Venezuelan people.....especially the natives of Amazonia, which Venezuela has been the last nation left protecting their territories! 

So, long story short, Canada's national myth and image is just a facade that hides the reality of a soc-dem nation that spends too much time celebrating its mythical character while avoiding and refusing to comment or criticizing the actions of US military and "soft" power exercised around the world that makes our overblown image and creature comforts possible!

 

Canada routinely plays the soft power role because it helps the US and allies to massage their foreign policy around the world when the maple leaf is singing from the same song sheet.  The problem for Canada is that without more hard power, the country loses credibility and often has to choose from the best larger power's foreign policy.  Not always.  Sometimes Canada takes a different course as she rightly did on Iraq.  With Venezuela I'd agree that the situation is concerning.  We've been pulled into US diplomatic wars as well, as in the case with China over the Huawei bank fraud business.  Only strong leadership that understands wherein the power lies and how to wield it to serve the country's interests can change this.  It means focusing on substance instead of showmanship and making hard choices around expenditures.

Right off the bat Canada needs to stop funding strange international projects and dubious equity schemes and focus on security in health, food, defence, energy, and commanding heights manufacturing (steel, planes, trains, automobiles, high tech agri, information technology, biotech, etc.), as well as STEM education and literacy (where we actually do shine).  Stop the anti-Canadian rhetoric and identity politics which have defined the federal government since Trudeau took office.  

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