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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

What defines the public good enough to justify denying fundamental rights?  Using the same argument, a dictator could also deny people their basic freedoms such as freedom of speech, freedom of association, etc. as is done in North Korea.  

The courts define whether a limitation is justified, and they supported the right of the government to restrict entry into Newfoundland and Labrador when their restrictions were challenged.  You can disagree with that (The Canadian Civil Liberties Association does), but the answer to your question is that the courts decide, when someone challenges a law imposed by government.

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15 hours ago, dialamah said:

The courts define whether a limitation is justified, and they supported the right of the government to restrict entry into Newfoundland and Labrador when their restrictions were challenged.  You can disagree with that (The Canadian Civil Liberties Association does), but the answer to your question is that the courts decide, when someone challenges a law imposed by government.

So does that mean until a court makes a ruling, nobody knows whether a particular regulation is legal or unconstitutional?  Maybe that's why we have so many breaking this regulation and that regulation.  It has opened the door to ambiguity.  Some people have received huge fines for walking their dog in the parking lot and doing other harmless things because some authorities don't know what they are doing.  That's why many fines have been thrown out by the courts.

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Romans 13:1, NIV: "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

What was god thinking when he let Justin into power, Canadians must have pissed him off some how .

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15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Romans 13:1, NIV: "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Isn't that such a strange, paradoxical quote that is also transmitted as a given truth from generation to generation (over a hundred generations already)? How would that glorious eternal kingdom somewhere far far away be related to our flesh and blood authorities here, on this imperfect and suffering Earth to merit such a blank and all-encompassing carte blanche? That could be greedy; corrupt; violent; authoritarian; irresponsible; unaccountable; entitled to entitlements; corrupt again and again; and so many other things but still let's be subjects. Wow. Really hard to imagine that such a relationship could exist, just to think of it!

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51 minutes ago, myata said:

Isn't that such a strange, paradoxical quote that is also transmitted as a given truth from generation to generation (over a hundred generations already)? How would that glorious eternal kingdom somewhere far far away be related to our flesh and blood authorities here, on this imperfect and suffering Earth to merit such a blank and all-encompassing carte blanche? That could be greedy; corrupt; violent; authoritarian; irresponsible; unaccountable; entitled to entitlements; corrupt again and again; and so many other things but still let's be subjects. Wow. Really hard to imagine that such a relationship could exist, just to think of it!

He's just confused about religion. He should read carefully. "Established by God" is not voted in by people.

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3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

He's just confused about religion. He should read carefully. "Established by God" is not voted in by people.

Well, in one sense at least I can see how it could work. If God is the evolution and evolution led herds of great apes to worship and silently obey their alpha-leaders then yeah all makes sense. Wonder how did it sound in the ancestral great-apean some 10 millions years back. Not for nothing we're an intelligent species!

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2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

He's just confused about religion. He should read carefully. "Established by God" is not voted in by people.

And yet, so many believed that God arranged Trump's ascendancy to President of the US.  

But religious people are neither logical nor consistent: if they like the leader, it'd because God placed them there; if they don't, it's because people voted them in, and God will fix it by-and-by.

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1 hour ago, dialamah said:

And yet, so many believed that God arranged Trump's ascendancy to President of the US.  

But religious people are neither logical nor consistent: if they like the leader, it'd because God placed them there; if they don't, it's because people voted them in, and God will fix it by-and-by.


Except when Paul says "Our leaders were chosen by god", etc., I doubt he was talking about the president, although I am not sure who was elected at the time...   ;)

 

But I digress. What has this to do with thread topic again? Nothing of course.
Oh yeah... Communism, atheism... same  same

 

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On 5/5/2021 at 3:34 PM, blackbird said:

One of the characteristics of Marxist dictatorships is the people (or enough of them) worship the leader as if he is a god.  This is the way it works in Communist dictatorships like N. Korea, China, and Russia, even though they are not strictly Communist in the sense of equality. 

Exactly because no one has conceptually any authority above the great leader. Under communism that leader is totally unencumbered by any sort of written moral code, and is free to do whatever they will.

Thinking of you, Justin...   ;)

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43 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Communism, atheism... same  same

Such a simple-minded belief system:. You don't believe what I do, therefore you are evil. 

Thank goodness religious people, as a whole and Conservatives, as a whole, aren't fanatical extremists determined to spread hate and sow division.

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Riiight... because Justin is so universally loved by many... 😃

 

No no you got it wrong. One doesn't have to love the God, only fear, worship and obey unconditionally and unquestionably!

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6 hours ago, dialamah said:

Such a simple-minded belief system:.
Yada yada yada...

Belief, Madam? Nay, it is. It's a little old thing called history... maybe you've heard of it.

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2 hours ago, dialamah said:

Goof.

 

What parts of Communism/Socialism do you admire most that we can take a look at? Since you see something positive about Communism/Socialism, it would be helpful to see what parts.

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6 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Belief, Madam? Nay, it is. It's a little old thing called history... maybe you've heard of it.

 

I close my eyes and you disappear.

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18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Do a scan of this site...

Site? Canadians? I see not all are well-informed here. Perhaps you are one who doesnt keep up with the news? 

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21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Riiight... because Justin is so universally loved by many... 😃

 

2. Do a scan of this site... fascist, racist, traitor, doesn't say anything good about Canada....

"Are you naive?"

- PM Mulroney

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27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Please cite me the news story whereby Trudeau is loved to the level of a Korean dictator.  

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/justin-trudeau-canada-objectifying-political-crushes-a7610016.html

 

That took about 5 seconds. Once again your laziness in accessing the news cycle is duly noted!  ;)

Everyone knows he is adored, even more outside of Canada where his cult of personality charming mystique still lingers, like a bad smell covered up by cheap perfume. You bought it, Alice...

 

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10 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/justin-trudeau-canada-objectifying-political-crushes-a7610016.html

 

That took about 5 seconds. Once again your laziness in accessing the news cycle is duly noted!  ;)

Everyone knows he is adored, even more outside of Canada where his cult of personality charming mystique still lingers, like a bad smell covered up by cheap perfume. You bought it, Alice...

 

Old news.  

Here's something more recent ... https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trudeau-brownface-reaction-international-1.5289870

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-trudeaus-popularity-has-slipped-since-we-charity-scandal-broke-poll/

Looks like it's you who needs to keep up.

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21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Please cite me the news story whereby Trudeau is loved to the level of a Korean dictator.  

You could look at any news story that you want MH. 

No matter what the topic, everything that the turd said and did is either perfect, dreamy, or the topic is verboten.

One example is Covid - according to the media he has been "PERFECT!". At every stage of the game he got glowing reviews for 'following the science'. There was nary a harsh word spoken about his C19 game, but what does the scorecard really look like?

When the WHO was giving the worst advice possible (DON'T WEAR MASKS, KEEP FLIGHTS FROM COVID HOTSPOTS POURING IN), other world leaders were smarter than the WHO by orders of magnitude. In Japan they gave N95 masks to every home in the country and blocked flights from Wuhan. I don't know what the Japanese words for "Fuck the WHO" are, but that was Abe's battlecry. Trump blocked non-American passengers from China, he wasn't stupid. But when Demonrats and their MSM flunkies piled on Trump and called that a "racist" travel ban, the turd decided to use that moment to stab Trump in the back instead of just realizing the importance of blocking infected people from coming to Canada. The turd didn't even have to figure this one out by himself, he just had to copy other people who were smarter than him, but instead of fighting covid he turned the topic into a sermon about racism against Chinese people. Trudeau pontificated while Canadians died by the thousands.

Did our media mention that at that point in time even the Chinese gov't was blocking flights from Wuhan into the rest of China? (Oddly enough, they were letting Wuhan residents fly out on international flights...) Or did they say "DAMN THE TORPEDOES! LET'S KEEP USING THIS VIRAL OUTBREAK AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTACK TRUMP!"

Wonderdunce proceeded to give all of our N95 masks to the country that 'accidentally' let covid out of their BSL-4 lab, he backed the guidance of our health experts who told us not to wear masks, and he left the flights from Wuhan pour in for months.

The media blitz against Trump worked because our population is largely stupid, but Canada rocketed to the top 10 countries in the world to hit 5,000 covid deaths despite our distance from China, our access to PPE and our extremely low population density. He treated covid like such a joke that even his wife got it right at the very beginning.

When Trudeau finally started to fight covid it was a JOKE. People from Wuhan could fly into Canada on March 16th, wander around the country wherever they pleased, go into buffet-style restaurants, swim in pools, chill out in the mall etc. Then on the 23rd Canadians weren't even allowed to walk outside in our parks. There were notices in the parking lots that we would be violating a health order if we walked outside. In one week we went from "covid is a huge joke" to "STAY AT HOME OR YOU'LL KILL US ALL!"

What was "the science" back at the start of the viral outbreak, MH? Was it really "welcome covid into our country like the plague"? Is that a thing now? Because that was the exact strategy that our village idiot employed.

Think about our 24,000 deaths vs Japan's 10,000 deaths, all of the natural advantages that we had over them in this pandemic, and the old maxim "A stitch in time saves nine". Does that apply here somehow? Would we have 24,000 deaths right now if we had just copied them? Would we still be locked down like this? Was what they did so brilliant that no one could have conceived of it themselves, or even understood it when they were doing it? Was that really the time for pontificating about racism, or should we have copied the Chinese Gov't's own racist actions against the people of Wuhan?

Sorry if it seems like I'm treating you like an imbecile but that is the EXACT standard by which we have to gauge our government's response to this pandemic. If you ask the really easy questions the answer is blatantly obvious, the turd failed us miserably. The only person in the world who handled covid worse than wonderdunce was Andrew Cuomo, but he had to actually murder people to one-up la turd.

The truth is that we just got really lucky with covid. If it was as bad as the Spanish Flu then we would all have multiple, healthy family members dead and buried in nameless mass graves by now. 

 

Oh, do you want photographic evidence of the media playing up Trudeau's greatness at fighting covid? Check out this photo of when the media was proclaiming "Trudeau is so great for being a model of social distancing" and think about whether or not social distancing was really being practiced in that instance.... 

Is it propaganda when the government is 'filming something important' but it's really just a facade? Does this look like NoKo-esque propaganda to you? 

 

 

 

 

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